Urine idiot.
Easy advice OP:
1. Get on a beginners routine. Your workout is terrible, even if your diet is spot on you will not gain any muscle. (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=147447933)
2. You're not consuming enough calories. Recalculate your numbers. You should be putting on 2lbs easily in a couple weeks if your diet and training is in check.
(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=121703981)
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Thread: hows my bulk going guys
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03-23-2013, 03:41 PM #91VELOCITY NUTRITION
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03-23-2013, 03:43 PM #92
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03-23-2013, 04:25 PM #102
8 weeks really isn't a whole lot of time to make changes especially if your not "on". I would say though maybe you should reevaluate your routine if your eating as much as you say you are. Have your lifts increased at all?
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03-23-2013, 05:09 PM #106
4k is too much unless you are doing russian squat programs or chinese olympic weighlifting program. I used to eat at 4k while running starting strength, strength went up but my belly also went up by 4 inches. My advise bulk with 500 cal above maintenance only. Aim for 200g protein 220g carb and 60g of fat if u are male 180lbs. The second pic indicates that you put on 80% fat and 19% shiit only 1 per cent muscle.
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03-23-2013, 05:10 PM #107
Not sure why all the hate, but there is actual science to what I've suggested. However, so as to not appear to be one that is simply talking out of my rear, I've provided three peer-reviewed articles with cited references to support my comments. Although there are slight variations from what I've suggested, the idea of using ratios to determine macronutrients appears in all three.
It's fine to disagree; everyone has reached or is reaching for their goals in different ways. Disagreements don't always have to be personal.
http://www.about-muscle.com/articles...cle-growth.php
http://www.anasci.org/vB/bodybuildin...ybuilding.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...3-9-S1-P19.pdf
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03-23-2013, 05:14 PM #108
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03-23-2013, 05:23 PM #110
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03-23-2013, 05:28 PM #112
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03-23-2013, 05:31 PM #113
lol im the same weight and height as you but i look so much leaner and muscular, and i maintain on 2.8k cals.
im just gonna say you have a sh/tty training protocol, you must train low frequency or low volume.
if you are infact hitting those macros every day, you should be seeing gains.
go on a program which hits bodyparts more frequently, like push/pull/legs or upper/lower splits** slipped/bulged disc and still lift everyday crew **
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03-23-2013, 05:35 PM #114
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03-23-2013, 05:38 PM #115
OF COURSE YOU'RE HEAVIER YOU PUT ON FAT.
How bloody hard is that to understand?
Just because you gain weight doesn't mean you've gained muscle, strength doesn't mean you've gained muscle either, look into the science of strength gain.
Now unless you can prove in pictures 5kg of muscle gain, then go ahead.
You think you've put on 5kg of muscle in 4 months, I am lolling at you all the way to the bodyfat scales.
And again, PROVE me wrong with science on NATURAL lifting, before posting like a crying 15 year old.
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03-23-2013, 05:40 PM #116
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03-23-2013, 05:43 PM #117
OP, as some others have said, your routine sucks. Do JasonDB's 5x5.
Nothing wrong with 400g carbs on a bulk.
^Ignore the bolded parts of this. You do need to bulk to put on muscle mass (aside from early noob gains), food is important, you will generally not grow if you are in a caloric deficit (i.e., eating "minimal calories," just so long as you are not "starving yourself"), and your muscles will grow if you are lifting heavy, applying progressive overload (adding weight and/or reps), and eating right, whether you "mentally connect" (whatever the fuk that means exactly) with your muscles or not. Trust me, I just mentally connected with my muscles and they told me it's cool.
What is correct about the above post is that you should not do a recklessly massive bulk unless you want to put on a ton of fat. But a reasonable, controlled bulk is fine, and in fact beneficial for muscle gains.
^ Also don't listen to this.
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03-23-2013, 05:48 PM #118
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you're an idiot, i literally only have 6kg of fat on my entire body, and yet you think i have gained 5kg of fat in the past 4 months? I have gained a combination of both
edit: also you do realize that literally anybody at all, in the entire world of lifting, acknowledges that you MUST be in a caloric surplus to gain LBM, unless you are either a) a noob or b) fat
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