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    Talking Sell me on a great Pre! *Reps welcome too*

    I'm nearing the end of my tub of Ergo-Pre...I LIKE it, but something about the energy/focus is not there.

    So what I'm looking for is a non-DMAA Pre (it kills my wood) that has a decent to high energy and a great formulation.

    I've tried tons of pre's in the past (I also have a tub of Gameday right now), Mesomorph, God of Rage, Dust, all those things.

    Thanks again everyone!
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    Was going to recommend Game Day, but looks like you've already got some. Could look into Cellucor C4 Ultimate, Blue Star P.P.K., and the new Scivation Quake 10.0 which should be out any day now.
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    If Ergo doesn't do it for you I'd suggest the new Scivation pre. Otherwise you might just need to take a break from the stims by the sound of it.
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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    Was going to recommend Game Day, but looks like you've already got some. Could look into Cellucor C4 Ultimate, Blue Star P.P.K., and the new Scivation Quake 10.0 which should be out any day now.
    I did see the Quake, I am just not sure of the energy with that. Seems more mild. Formulation seems awesome though.
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    I did see the Quake, I am just not sure of the energy with that. Seems more mild. Formulation seems awesome though.
    It has 350mg of caffeine :/
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    If Ergo doesn't do it for you I'd suggest the new Scivation pre. Otherwise you might just need to take a break from the stims by the sound of it.
    Looking for more of a energy + focus blend. Ergo just didn't have that "sharp dialed in energy" I have experienced.

    If I want just pure energy I have that new Radiate thermo tub. Just want a solid pre.
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    I did see the Quake, I am just not sure of the energy with that. Seems more mild. Formulation seems awesome though.
    350mg caffeine + 200 mg l-theanine per 2 scoops (serving size) isn't so mild for energy
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    Originally Posted by MehranBrah View Post
    curious op, which 1 is better? Mesomorph or God of Rage? also why does DMAA kill ur wood? lole'd. i've got Mesomorph ordered coming to my place soon. Should i be worried about side effects? also a good pwo is mammoth pump ( no dmaa )
    You haven't experienced that? you get turtle dink from DMAA. I bang a lot of broads, what can I say. I need it functional. lol.

    Mesomorph is better, from focus, energy and taste.

    EDIT: Just saw you're 17, go easy on that chit. But at your age you probably won't have issues with limp dink on DMAA.
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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    350mg caffeine + 200 mg l-theanine per 2 scoops (serving size) isn't so mild for energy
    Do you know when it's released?
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    Max Out is higher on the stims with 400mg caffeine and some synephrine. It's all acute benefits being geared towards energy, pump and focus.

    You could also check out Steel Edge if you haven't tried that yet. It has 350mg caffeine.
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    My two favorite non-dmaa pre's for energy and focus are easily Culter Legend Pro and RCSS Yeah Buddy. By far the best in both the energy and focus department minus the dmaa/dmha.
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    Max Out is higher on the stims with 400mg caffeine and some synephrine. It's all acute benefits being geared towards energy, pump and focus.

    You could also check out Steel Edge if you haven't tried that yet. It has 350mg caffeine.
    I have tried Max Out in the past. I can't remember which version though. I'll look up the new one. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Misctake7 View Post
    My two favorite non-dmaa pre's for energy and focus are easily Culter Legend Pro and RCSS Yeah Buddy. By far the best in both the energy and focus department minus the dmaa/dmha.
    I have heard about this Cutler Legend Pro...Thanks for reminding me, I'll check that out too!
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    I'm nearing the end of my tub of Ergo-Pre...I LIKE it, but something about the energy/focus is not there.

    So what I'm looking for is a non-DMAA Pre (it kills my wood) that has a decent to high energy and a great formulation.

    I've tried tons of pre's in the past (I also have a tub of Gameday right now), Mesomorph, God of Rage, Dust, all those things.

    Thanks again everyone!
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    I have tried Max Out in the past. I can't remember which version though. I'll look up the new one. Thanks.
    First batch was 300mg, so if you tried it once it came out, you probably had that version. Every batch after has been 400mg.
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    Wait op what do you want? HIGH STIM product.. or are you saying well dosed for focus wit medium stims?
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    Could look into Cellucor C4 Ultimate, Blue Star P.P.K., and the new Scivation Quake 10.0 which should be out any day now.
    This guy has a pretty good list. Good formulas with no DMAA
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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    Was going to recommend Game Day, but looks like you've already got some. Could look into Cellucor C4 Ultimate, Blue Star P.P.K., and the new Scivation Quake 10.0 which should be out any day now.
    Thanks for the PPK love

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    Originally Posted by Hooverville View Post
    I would be remiss if I didn't pimp my companies product.

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    It hits hard, has no DMAA and will aid in body recomp. And if you wanna take it to the Banger, add a tab of Bronkaid ala chef Rawb.
    Thanks man! Looking into them all, BUT, I will say, Forskohlii destroys my guts
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Wait op what do you want? HIGH STIM product.. or are you saying well dosed for focus wit medium stims?
    Higher stim, great focus.
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    Originally Posted by TheFugitive View Post
    OP, shoot me a PM for a free sample of Legend Pro?
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    I'm nearing the end of my tub of Ergo-Pre...I LIKE it, but something about the energy/focus is not there.

    So what I'm looking for is a non-DMAA Pre (it kills my wood) that has a decent to high energy and a great formulation.

    I've tried tons of pre's in the past (I also have a tub of Gameday right now), Mesomorph, God of Rage, Dust, all those things.

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    Cellucor C4 Ultimate and Pes Prolific. Stims and focus will be there along with pumps.


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    Originally Posted by Partyrocking View Post
    conqu3r unleashed or El1xir
    Those are being blown out now, get 'em while you can. CU is a more well-rounded preworkout that also happens to have a helluva pump matrix too, and Elix1r is our focus bomb.

    Prolific at two scoops would probably do it too, that's a good energy/focus pre.
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