LMR Sports needs product testers for our new MUSCLE MASS Cycle

freaker · 03-18-2005, 11:11 PM

I was stacking a full serving of BLUE NITROUS, NITRO JUICE, and ECS before my workouts and it was too much. I know a few other guys who are doing that, but it can get expensive. I backed down to taking 6cc each of BLUE NITROUS and NITRO JUICE with a 1/2 scoop of ECS pre-workout, and I still got crazy pumps and major energy. I'm now recommending the following stack:

Pre-workout: ½ scoop ECS in 8 oz water or juice, 6cc BLUE NITROUS, 6cc NITRO JUICE, plenty of water

In-workout: ½ scoop ECS in 8 oz water or juice, plenty of water

Post-workout ½ scoop ECS in 8 oz water or juice, plenty of water (you will keep the pump until you go to sleep if you drink plenty of water)

I'm calling this the LMR Sports MUSCLE MASS Cycle because these 3 products are listed on our website under MUSCLE MASS.

If you workout 5 days a week, one bottle of each product will get you through 8 weeks. That's 40 bad-ass workouts.

Now many of your are saying: freaker, you're a shameless pimp, but these are high-quality products and I believe that anyone who follows this protocol will get such great results they'll buy again and again.

So now, in regard to what I'm looking for as far as testers. I'm looking for serious trainees who have a proven track record of hard training and good nutrition, no newbies. Respected on the board or in the fitness industry. Off any hormonal substances at least 4 weeks prior to starting testing if using PCT, at least 8 weeks off if no PCT was used. Off any thermogenics (coffee, soda, etc. is okay, just no pills, powders, or RTDs) for at least 2 weeks prior to starting. Off any NO or creatine products 3 weeks prior. Not on any extreme fat-loss diets.

During your 8 week cycle continue eating as you were, and taking any supplements you were previously taking. Follow the pre, in, and post-workout MUSCLE MASS Cycle protocol 5 times a week. If you want to add pre, in, and post-workout shakes, go ahead, just make sure you were already doing this before you started the cycle. If you don't workout 5 times a week, add some cardio sessions, if you workout more than 5 times a week, only use the LMR Sports supplements for 5 of your weekly workouts. Take before and after measurements (pictures are optional, but preferred), post a product review thread in this section.

If you are interested in being a product tester for us, E-mail me at ian@lmrsports.com with your stats, workout history, and current supplementation routine. Will we be choosing 3-5 testers. The testers, as well as anyone else who uses any of our products are also welcome to write a review for Bodybuilding.com. If Bodybuilding.com publishes your review on the site, in addition to reciving $25 worth of credit in their online store, LMR Sports will also send you a free bottle of ECS.

Bodybuilding.com has been doing great with the BLUE NITROUS and great with ECS (having placed their 2nd order a mere week after their initial order), but NITRO JUICE hasn't been selling as well. NITRO JUICE is our most innovate product, as well as our most expensive product to make. The feedback from people who use it has been awesome as well. The first time they take it they claim to notice a difference. They describe it as having more energy and not getting nearly as sore as they usually do. They say the can tear it up long into their workouts, and they feel like they are aren't working as hard because they aren't fatiguing the way they normally do. They also say they get a crazy pump and hold it for hours. Rutaecarpine will cause a rapid elevation in NO and is a proven vasodilator, while citrulline and malic acid will increase energy, reduce fatigue, and speed recovery. And everybody knows what arginine does. And since NITRO JUICE has 6100mg, even a half serving will give better results than just about any other NO product because most of them contain 3000mg per serving, plus it's a liquid delivery product. Of course people aren't as familiar with citulline, malic acid, and rutaecarpine as they are with arginine, not to mention we have BLUE NITROUS, which costs less, so I can see why NITRO JUICE is a hard sell. Stacking them is the best option as there are differences between the 2 products, and stacking them gives the best of both worlds.

You can check out all our products in the Bodybuilding.com Cyberstore at http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/lmr/lmr.htm

krustster · 03-18-2005, 11:34 PM

Haha, dammit... for once I'm the first person to catch a "need testers" topic on this board and I don't meet the requirements (I'm in the middle of testing another creating product). Oh well.

Matt96teg · 03-19-2005, 05:05 AM

You know I would want to test it

First I gotta finish up my MAN BodyOctane and after than MAN Clout...I could also try out the LMR MUSCLE MASS CYCLE

freaker · 03-19-2005, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt96teg

You know I would want to test it

First I gotta finish up my MAN BodyOctane and after than MAN Clout...I could also try out the LMR MUSCLE MASS CYCLE

You could always hold off on the Clout and test the MUSCLE MASS Cycle first. Of course there's no guarantee you'll be selected, even though I like you, because I've already received close to a dozen responses.

Newport Surfer · 03-19-2005, 04:12 PM

I would be glad do to it if you are OK with me cutting while doing so. I am detailed and give unbiased feedback about products.

You can see my reviews and logs of products in my signature. There are many more as well that I didn't put in there.

noleguy · 03-19-2005, 04:43 PM

Hope I can help out.

_Sean_

kendog · 03-19-2005, 05:09 PM

lol, Kind of a tight criteria. Maybe one day I'll be chosen for a tester (:

freaker · 03-19-2005, 08:21 PM

No problem cutting, just as long as you aren't following any extreme diets that might cause muscle loss. Also, there is another testing option. It would involve stacking the products in full doses for a period of 4 weeks, basically doubling my recommended protocol over a period of 20 workouts, since 8 weeks is a long commitment. The option the tester chooses is entirely up to them.

Newport Surfer · 03-19-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freaker

No problem cutting, just as long as you aren't following any extreme diets that might cause muscle loss. Also, there is another testing option. It would involve stacking the products in full doses for a period of 4 weeks, basically doubling my recommended protocol over a period of 20 workouts, since 8 weeks is a long commitment. The option the tester chooses is entirely up to them.

I would be glad to do one then. PM me if you would like to retain my services.

EDIT: Would it be OK to do it while using a test booster like KiloSport Attack?

EricTheRed · 03-19-2005, 08:35 PM

Very interesting set up you got going freaker, should yeild some very good results for people

hope you can get some good test results

If you need anymore testers let me know

Sixpack · 03-20-2005, 03:01 AM

Can one be bulking while taking this?

freaker · 03-21-2005, 02:02 PM

Hi guys, thanks for all the replies, and I realize our criteria is preety Draconian, that's why I'm backing the NO and creatine no uses to 2 weeks. I'm also offerring another option to those who will be using thermogenics. That option would have you using REDZONE and/or REDZONE CAPSULES as your thermogenic. I'm not really one to speak when it comes to laying off thermogenics, and I'm a little inspired to do an official testing myself (although of course I'm biased). I may actually try to lay off the thermogenics because I'v been using REDZONE for way too long and don't think I've ever given myself 2 weeks off in far too long. Today I actually tried stacking 2.5cc of the liquid with a single capsule, and I was quite pleased with the effects, and while they are different (which allows me to not burn out my receptors too much), they both have caffeine.

In regard to the testers, we have our first one, and once I talk to the other one, we will have our 2nd as well - if he meets the criteria. The thing is I need some diversity. Both of these people are from Tampa and have used our products before, so they know it's good, and the first one is a very good friend of mine. I definitely need at least one person who I have never talked to before and has never used our products, hopefully someone who is very skeptical. Our president put up 9 bottles for the testing, but I want 5 testers, so I'm going to put up the remaining ones. The bottom line is I know our products rock, and when it comes to any of the liquid delivery products (best delivery system) there is no way someone is going to have a better product unless they have higher milligrams of the same quality raws we use (we don't use crap, and we make sure it's everything the raw material supplier says it is). Also, please let me know your user name on the board if you post.

One more personal remark. I get paid 100% commission, no salary. Last year when we had the prohormones (which were much higher margin products for every company) I was making great money. Now I have to sell 5 times as much, because our margins are a lot thinner, so I ended up taking some other jobs to make ends meet. Those jobs pay alright, but there is no future there. I know LMR Sports is where it's at for me, and am trying to put as much time into it as I can. Quite frankly this thread is free marketing for us, and I know I'll make up the money for the free products I put up myself because bodybuilding.com will sell more. If our products weren't the best thing I had ever used, I wouldn't be working for LMR.

jaymode · 03-21-2005, 02:09 PM

I would be willing to use Redzone as my thermo if I was chosen or none at all as I said in my email. I have heard good things about it and it seems similar to Redline from what I have heard. Redline worked well for me. Also I have never used any of your products before.

Iron Draggin · 03-21-2005, 02:38 PM

E-mail sent. I don't currently meet the dietary requirements but I will in two weeks.

scrawny-nomore · 03-21-2005, 02:40 PM

I just sent you an e-mail, I hope you take the time to read it as I am quite interested in being a tester.....Thanks again

scrawny

freaker · 03-21-2005, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

Can one be bulking while taking this?

Not a problem. It's not a problem to be cutting either, I just don't don't want a tester who is following what I'd consider an extreme diet.

rgkstl · 03-21-2005, 08:42 PM

Sent you an email.

chris587 · 03-22-2005, 08:05 AM

sent you an email ,,, i meet all criteria ,,,

let me know

thx

cocoapi · 03-22-2005, 08:17 AM

I also just sent and email and feel i'm qualified and meet the criteria. Thanks

SLY · 03-23-2005, 05:34 PM

Freaker, when will the testers be chosen?

G.W. Hayduke · 03-23-2005, 06:17 PM

E-mail sent.

freaker · 03-24-2005, 01:02 AM

My monitor crapped out so I had to get a new one, and I can't believe how many E-mails I had waiting for me. I almost want to hold this open longer and do more than 5 testers, but I don't want to keep you guys waiting too long. I'll probably check in real quick tommorrow, then I'll be down in Miami for the weekend. I'll probably start contacting people next week to norrow it down. It really doesn't matter to me that everybody is doing this at the same time, and I am certainly willing to wait 2 weeks for someone to be creatine and NO product free if I really want them as a tester, so please don't hold off assuming that you won't be chosen if you're currently using a creatine or NO product.

Lonny · 03-25-2005, 08:46 AM

Wow, thats a pretty good deal for the testers.

You guys ever gonna get availability in Canada?

c-rad · 03-28-2005, 01:06 PM

im interested in testing im 19 my routine i do is for my vertical and powerlifting and basketball. I have a log that i will post the link to each day is exact in what i do for my training i would love to be a tester of the product here is my link to my log. Only supplement im on is a 5000 cal diet...so no creatine or no as of right now so...just let me know if i can test it.
http://athletesunited.bizhat.com/Com...topic.php?t=31

freaker · 03-28-2005, 06:20 PM

Lonny - we do have some stores in Canada, but they're very scattered. We plan to get a lot more, we just have so many leads in America, it may be a while unless our Canada rep really starts locking things down. It's really just a matter of getting someone charismatic who uses the products to walk in the store and they'll have a much easier time locking it down then I will cold calling a store on the phone.

And to everyone, if you want to be a tester, E-mail me with the info. Don't PM me, don't give me the info in the thread. I don't mean to be rude, but that is the only way I can effectively track it with all the replies I've been receiving. I'll definitely be choosing the next 2 testers this week. After that, there are 2 spots left.

I had a great time in Miami this week and met a lot of muscians. It was pretty crazy as there was some huge rave at the coluseum where the Miami heat play. I gave Murphy Lee my card, maybe the St. Louis pose will start stacking the NITRO JUICE with the Pimp Juice. I also talked to Gavin Rossdale on the floor. He seemed like a really shy guy. It's funny how these guys almost try to deny who they are. Then I was in the front row and saw this one guy who stood out for some reason. I said "You're a musician aren't you?" Turns out he was the drummer from SlipKnot. I talked to him a while and gave him my card, then he told me to come back to the hotel and hang out with him. Some girl was supposed to get me in, but I ended up losing her. Ultimately I met some homeless guy named Maya and we walked 15 blocks back to my car. On the way we ran into Willie Nelson at a bus stop and he gave me one of his bandanas, literally put it on my head like it was a ceremony. It was pretty surreal, I should have asked him to sign it, but it was so crazy running into him like that, I didn't even think. Maya asked him for some money and he said "I aint got a dime brother, I gave it all away." He was even trying to give me his glasses and another hat. All in all it was an awesome weekend. Hopefully Murphy Lee and the guys from Slipknot will be in touch with me about getting some LMR Sports stuff.

Bammy · 03-28-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by freaker

I had a great time in Miami this week and met a lot of muscians. It was pretty crazy as there was some huge rave at the coluseum where the Miami heat play. I gave Murphy Lee my card, maybe the St. Louis pose will start stacking the NITRO JUICE with the Pimp Juice. I also talked to Gavin Rossdale on the floor. He seemed like a really shy guy. It's funny how these guys almost try to deny who they are. Then I was in the front row and saw this one guy who stood out for some reason. I said "You're a musician aren't you?" Turns out he was the drummer from SlipKnot. I talked to him a while and gave him my card, then he told me to come back to the hotel and hang out with him. Some girl was supposed to get me in, but I ended up losing her. Ultimately I met some homeless guy named Maya and we walked 15 blocks back to my car. On the way we ran into Willie Nelson at a bus stop and he gave me one of his bandanas, literally put it on my head like it was a ceremony. It was pretty surreal, I should have asked him to sign it, but it was so crazy running into him like that, I didn't even think. Maya asked him for some money and he said "I aint got a dime brother, I gave it all away." He was even trying to give me his glasses and another hat. All in all it was an awesome weekend. Hopefully Murphy Lee and the guys from Slipknot will be in touch with me about getting some LMR Sports stuff.

That sounds like some kind of crazy dream Ian. What were they all there for?

freaker · 03-28-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bammy

That sounds like some kind of crazy dream Ian. What were they all there for?

There was supposedly some big music convention in Miami that weekend, and there was another rave at a park downtown before the late night one they had at the colluseum. It's also Miami, and I hear people see celebirties all the time there, I was just able to chat a couple of them up and give them my business cards. As far as Willie Nelson, I have no idea why he was sitting at the bus stop by himself at 5:30 AM, but he said he was stoned, and the bandana he gave me is cool as hell, it really makes my rock star look complete.

Lonny · 03-29-2005, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by freaker

Lonny - we do have some stores in Canada, but they're very scattered. We plan to get a lot more, we just have so many leads in America, it may be a while unless our Canada rep really starts locking things down. It's really just a matter of getting someone charismatic who uses the products to walk in the store and they'll have a much easier time locking it down then I will cold calling a store on the phone.

Thanks.

I know Canada is hard to break into as an American company so best of luck with that.

freaker · 04-01-2005, 11:40 AM

Just an update, things are so busy I probably will not be able to look everything over until Sunday. I would have liked to be able to start contacting potential testers today, but I have too many stores to call plus I've got my side job from 7-1 tonight. I appreciate all the support guys because I have really seen the bodybuilding.com orders pick up since I started this thread. Thanks for all the E-mails and thanks for your patience.

stumpman8 · 04-01-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by freaker

Just an update, things are so busy I probably will not be able to look everything over until Sunday. I would have liked to be able to start contacting potential testers today, but I have too many stores to call plus I've got my side job from 7-1 tonight. I appreciate all the support guys because I have really seen the bodybuilding.com orders pick up since I started this thread. Thanks for all the E-mails and thanks for your patience.

thanx for the update, i just inquired about it on another thread, Oh BTW it rocks you met willie nelson, he is my fav musician of all time