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    military press

    standing military press, to the front or behind the neck? heard you have to be carefull going behind the neck, anyone else heard this to be true?
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    sounds about right...i always do seated though
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    Originally Posted by focus80 View Post
    standing military press, to the front or behind the neck? heard you have to be carefull going behind the neck, anyone else heard this to be true?
    That's what I've heard. You can probably find "studies" to support either way though. I can't keep my spine neutral with behind the head presses(always end up looking down) so I skip them for fronts for this reason.
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    Originally Posted by Bumpus View Post
    That's what I've heard. You can probably find "studies" to support either way though. I can't keep my spine neutral with behind the head presses(always end up looking down) so I skip them for fronts for this reason.
    yeah, i find av gotta keep me head down of slightly forward to get the bar lower, going to the front is alot more comfortable.
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    pressing behind the neck literally serves no higher purpose over pressing in the front. It can definitely jack up someone's shoulders if they are not flexible enough, though.
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    Originally Posted by clorox_me View Post
    pressing behind the neck literally serves no higher purpose over pressing in the front. It can definitely jack up someone's shoulders if they are not flexible enough, though.
    it's a different exercise. both behind-neck and military press have different conditioning methods.
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    When you do behind the neck you put your shoulder at its most vulnerable position to dislocate/sublux. When you shoulder in the position of Abduction, Extension, and ER it is at its weakest a joint. So be careful! I avoid behind the neck since I have subluxed my shoulder during highschool and am prone to reinjury
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    Originally Posted by Brooksie59 View Post
    When you do behind the neck you put your shoulder at its most vulnerable position to dislocate/sublux. When you shoulder in the position of Abduction, Extension, and ER it is at its weakest a joint. So be careful! I avoid behind the neck since I have subluxed my shoulder during highschool and am prone to reinjury
    I've heard of it causing problems. It wasn't mixing too well with my dip workout either, but that's just dips for me. I've never really trained this exercise below 8-9 reps, and that was pretty low. I wouldn't really even go too wide or narrow, everything about this exercise I would just keep in moderation.
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    Behind the neck goodnight sweet rotator cuff.




    Do it in front.
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    think about the kinesiology here; when the bar is BEHIND or FORWARD of the shoulder joint, there are potential problems....

    when the weight that is being lifted is centered over the entire shoulder girdle, you will do much better.

    there are two ways to do this;

    1. use dumbbells

    2. use some sort of lever type machine


    either one will allow that better and safer positioning....
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    Mot people tend to lower their heads when doing behind the head military press. Causes undue stress and bad form.
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    Only do mine in front. Only standing.

    Absolutely love standing military press, great exercise
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    A military press is by definition in front, standing, strict and with heels together


    And j vote against behind the neck work as a generality
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    it's a different exercise. both behind-neck and military press have different conditioning methods.
    please explain on these different conditioning methods.
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    I do both. I go in front if I want to go heavy and I go behind the neck when I want to do supersets or max reps. But, I would never pile on a lot of weight and put it behind my neck.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    A military press is by definition in front, standing, strict and with heels together


    And j vote against behind the neck work as a generality
    Heels together?
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    Originally Posted by first blood View Post
    Heels together?
    Yes. As if you are standing at attention - hence the name "military" press. If your heels aren't touching it is just a standing overhead press.
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    Front is the way to go. I generally try to avoid any heavy exercise where the cervical spine is curved forward (i.e. your chin is pulled towards the chest). I saw a guy in the gym yesterday doing bent over rear delt flies, and the back of his neck looked like a camel's back. To make things worse he was jerking the weight up. It looked extremely dangerous.
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    Originally Posted by first blood View Post
    Heels together?
    Originally Posted by PeterGibbons316 View Post
    Yes. As if you are standing at attention - hence the name "military" press. If your heels aren't touching it is just a standing overhead press.
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    I prefer seated shoulder press's, my favorites are....

    DB Shoulder Press
    Smith Shoulder Press (Front and Behind the neck)
    Hammer Strength Shoulder Press

    I wouldn't do heavy standing behind the neck presses, but everyone is different. I know some guys who love them and use upwards of 225 on them.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Exactly
    I would tip the f**k over with heels together.

    Maruis doing shoulders--mine tore just watching this
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    Charles Glass has his boys behind the neck only down to ears.

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    Originally Posted by rutzilla View Post
    I would tip the f**k over with heels together.
    No balance, eh?
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    A military press is by definition in front, standing, strict and with heels together


    And j vote against behind the neck work as a generality
    this kids a clown, heels together dont help you with anything. Its pointles and wont improve u at all. its like doin squats one of dem gigantic workout balls like making the exercise harder fo no reason and just to say u made it harder
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    Originally Posted by Yungbl00d View Post
    heels together dont help you with anything.
    Did anybody say it would?

    Originally Posted by Yungbl00d View Post
    Its pointles and wont improve u at all.
    Most people probably agree with that (as in relative to a regular standing press it won't do anything extra for you). I haven't seen a single person post a video of themselves doing a military press on bb.com that I can recall. Nor have I ever seen a single person do it at the gym.

    Originally Posted by Yungbl00d View Post
    its like doin squats one of dem gigantic workout balls like making the exercise harder fo no reason and just to say u made it harder
    I wouldn't go that far, though.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    I haven't seen a single person post a video of themselves doing a military press on bb.com that I can recall.
    I posted this at one point:



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    Yes yes, I remember that. It went over most people's heads though I think
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    No balance, eh?
    Balence left when I tore both quad terndons, left one is held on by only 20% right one reattached. My core is not half bad though.

    After yourt original post I was imagining, standing there at the position of attention, doing presses, reciting my general orders for every rep-flashback to bootcamp.
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