I find this "short" term diet rather interesting... don't know if I could do it for 28 days though - maybe a couple of weeks. Anyone have experience with this plan? Thoughts??
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=546491
(Hope it's ok to link to this site)??
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Thread: Velocity Diet
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10-25-2006, 09:32 PM #1
Velocity Diet
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice, for I am a hunter,
And I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph, Nez Perce
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10-26-2006, 05:49 AM #2
Yep it is called pushing their product, note where it states that thier product only will work with this diet.
Tim is a great sales man and has always used these tactics ever since they came into the scene.
Thediet in itself is a typical liquid diet many has used to cut quickly. It can work, but you may lose some strenght while on it. I have used a similar diet in the past, I actually lost some muscle while using it. Any time you lose that much in a small amount of time, you will lose muscle as well.
But I AM Not the authority on this , perhaps someone else will chime in.
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10-26-2006, 05:57 AM #3
Thanks for the input... I tend to ignore parts of the article (any article) that says "use this supplement" only.
Anyone else?When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice, for I am a hunter,
And I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph, Nez Perce
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10-26-2006, 06:08 AM #4
Ok, I had a look.
My take is that the only reason you are going to lose weight on this diet is because the calories are really low. I plugged in my own numbers and I'd be eating 1100 on non-training days and 1300 on training days. Both these numbers are below my BMR. In my opinion, you should never eat less than your BMR.
Beyond that, I don't really think it makes a whit of difference if you use his supplements or not. He is basically advocating a low calorie, low carb diet, with loads of fiber to hekp you not mind the calorie restriction. And yes, this will be successful in the short run, just as any diet that drastically reduces calories will be (plus you'll get the boost of dropping water from the reduced carbs). I am not sure I agree that it will be muscle-sparing, but I am also not willing to try it to find out!
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10-26-2006, 06:34 AM #5
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10-26-2006, 06:48 AM #6
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10-26-2006, 06:49 AM #7
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A better diet might be John Berardi's Get Shredded Diet. I trust him more when it comes to nutrition.
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10-26-2006, 07:28 AM #8Originally Posted by jtrosterWhen the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice, for I am a hunter,
And I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph, Nez Perce
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10-26-2006, 07:53 AM #9
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10-26-2006, 08:00 AM #10
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10-26-2006, 08:08 AM #11
I think something like the T-Dawg 2.0 diet would be more advantageous and sustainable over the long term. But I'm insane, so don't pay any attention.
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04-26-2008, 10:44 AM #12
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04-26-2008, 10:45 AM #13
Help
I have been on the velocity diet for 12 days now - have followed it faithfully -
and have not lost even ONE pound!!!!! I am really getting discouraged but
want to stick it out. Has anyone else experienced this? If anyone can give me some hope that it will pay off eventually, I would appreciate it!
Thanks.
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04-26-2008, 01:08 PM #14
I've always stayed away from any eating plan with the word "diet" in it. My general opinion of diets is, don't start it unless you plan to stay on it forever. The best thing to do is work up your own plan, based on your current bodyweight, training, and goals. I'd run away and hide from any plan that has me drinking shakes 5 times a day! Eat the proper amount of whole foods, with the correct ratio of carbs/ protein/fat, work the compound lifts HARD, do an appropriate amount of cardio, and that's all you should need.
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04-26-2008, 02:01 PM #15
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You've changed something or have figured out your daily intake wrong.
Have a look here:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=4991963
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04-27-2008, 05:59 PM #16
Blabber (Scott) was on this diet. Why don't you ask him about his experiences? It might give you some direct insight.
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04-27-2008, 06:12 PM #17
There are actually quite a few different logs of people who have tried this diet. You might check some of them out to get an idea of how well it worked.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/search...chid=121580401
The only downside is that alot of them are incomplete....people start a log and then quit after a few days. Here is a detailed log from a guy who did the velocity diet awhile back.
http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/s...ad.php?t=31236
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04-27-2008, 08:05 PM #18
I'm a skeptic; however, I'm intrigued enough to give it a shot. I'm down to my last twelve pounds and would like to see if I can do it in 28 days. I'm starting tomorrow....with some modifications. I'm adding a green drink (green magma) to my daily calories as I don't trust a diet that leaves out veggies. I'm also mixing some real fruit with each shake. I've managed to keep my carb intake under 100 grams of carbs with these changes. I'll update my results in my blog.
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03-01-2009, 03:43 PM #19
i think for people that dont lift, thats a better idea. But for lifters, your calorie intake is going to have to change throughout the year, and when you gain muscle youll probably gain some fat too, and have to go through a phase to shred it off.
thats the only reason i diet to lose fat. i know some of it will come back throughout the year, but then ill just diet again.
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03-01-2009, 03:44 PM #20
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03-01-2009, 03:47 PM #21
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My friend documented his in photos, 22lbs in 28 days.
I think he looks like a smaller version of the same guy. His body doesn't really look any better, just smaller.
Yorkshireman I: Right! I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill-owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves, singing Hallelujah!
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03-01-2009, 04:11 PM #24
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Even weirder, it went from 10/26/06 to 4/26/08 between posts, then reappeared today. So it has been resurrected twice
Yorkshireman I: Right! I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill-owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves, singing Hallelujah!
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and it was a 17 year old who raised it from the dead the second time.
Yorkshireman I: Right! I had to get up in the morning, at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill and pay mill-owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves, singing Hallelujah!
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03-01-2009, 04:20 PM #27
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03-01-2009, 04:28 PM #28
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03-01-2009, 04:30 PM #29
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03-02-2009, 08:41 AM #30
question about protein for v-diet
I was looking on GNC for other protein's and found low-carb isopure. It has 50g protein, 0 sugar, 3g carbs, 210 calories and is only $1 per serving when you average it out. Would this be a decent protein for this diet? It says it's 100% whey protein isolate, I've seen that a mix of maybe whey and casein is best, but how would doing this diet with this protein plus the fish oil and flax seed and stuff work?
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