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    Looking good brah! You're pretty much the only guy I've ever met in (Real life or fake life) that is self conscious about his ass? lol. Keep it up tho, great work in here!
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    Originally Posted by jpfaherty View Post
    Looking good brah! You're pretty much the only guy I've ever met in (Real life or fake life) that is self conscious about his ass? lol. Keep it up tho, great work in here!
    Haha thanks bro. I'm not the only one. There's a few of us here who store fat in our asses. I may have abs no matter how heavy I get but my ass gets huge instead. It sucks
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    Originally Posted by jpfaherty View Post
    Looking good brah! You're pretty much the only guy I've ever met in (Real life or fake life) that is self conscious about his ass? lol. Keep it up tho, great work in here!
    hell no dude i am WAY self conscious about my ass... i was blessed/cursed with a gigantic ass. pretty good muscle, but i add fat there easy.

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    Haha thanks bro. I'm not the only one. There's a few of us here who store fat in our asses. I may have abs no matter how heavy I get but my ass gets huge instead. It sucks
    this, except i dont get abs either

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    Originally Posted by OoFaP View Post
    Haha thanks bro. I'm not the only one. There's a few of us here who store fat in our asses. I may have abs no matter how heavy I get but my ass gets huge instead. It sucks
    I'm the exact opposite. I have virtually no abs but still have somewhat visible side glutes lol.
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    Originally Posted by OoFaP View Post
    Haha thanks bro. I'm not the only one. There's a few of us here who store fat in our asses. I may have abs no matter how heavy I get but my ass gets huge instead. It sucks
    lol'd huge ass crew checking in! I like the fact that I have ass but it seems a little too big. Having flat ass sucks more, imo
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    Originally Posted by wrkoutfrq View Post
    hell no dude i am WAY self conscious about my ass... i was blessed/cursed with a gigantic ass. pretty good muscle, but i add fat there easy.



    this, except i dont get abs either

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    I'm the exact opposite. I have virtually no abs but still have somewhat visible side glutes lol.
    I still have both at the moment
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    lol'd huge ass crew checking in! I like the fact that I have ass but it seems a little too big. Having flat ass sucks more, imo
    You always want what you can't have. If I had a flat ass, I'd want a big one. I have a big one, so I want it to be smaller.
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    that bench is climbing up fast already, you feel like decline is the best for growth? guessing it has to do with the dorian yates seminar, etc.

    how long are your workouts taking without the cardio?
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    Originally Posted by xKyle10 View Post
    that bench is climbing up fast already, you feel like decline is the best for growth? guessing it has to do with the dorian yates seminar, etc.

    how long are your workouts taking without the cardio?
    Yeah everything has been climbing nicely lately. I'm doing decline for a few reasons. One is that I feel it in my chest more than flat. Another is that I try to get at least 1 exercise per week of each angle for chest. For power days I hit decline and incline movements and then on my hypertrophy days I hit incline again and some flat. It really comes down to which exercises I like doing in specific rep ranges better. I prefer going heavier with barbells and lighter with dumbbells. The Dorian comments at the seminar did help me justify using decline as a more significant part of my work out though. I always viewed it as unnecessary but hearing him endorse it led me to give it another chance and I'm glad I did.

    Work out times vary depending on the day. Upper power is my longest. It takes about 65 minutes. Lower power is really short. I do it in about 55 minutes and that includes 10 minutes of abs. Upper hypertrophy and lower hypertrophy both take about 55 minutes also. It's funny because I condensed the P.H.A.T routine in 4 days and each work out takes less time than when I did it in 5 days last year due to the decreased volume.
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    Originally Posted by xKyle10 View Post
    that bench is climbing up fast already, you feel like decline is the best for growth? guessing it has to do with the dorian yates seminar, etc.

    how long are your workouts taking without the cardio?
    he didn't have much down time either between sets, 2 minutes max probably. dat strength gain
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    Originally Posted by OoFaP View Post
    Yeah everything has been climbing nicely lately. I'm doing decline for a few reasons. One is that I feel it in my chest more than flat. Another is that I try to get at least 1 exercise per week of each angle for chest. For power days I hit decline and incline movements and then on my hypertrophy days I hit incline again and some flat. It really comes down to which exercises I like doing in specific rep ranges better. I prefer going heavier with barbells and lighter with dumbbells. The Dorian comments at the seminar did help me justify using decline as a more significant part of my work out though. I always viewed it as unnecessary but hearing him endorse it led me to give it another chance and I'm glad I did.

    Work out times vary depending on the day. Upper power is my longest. It takes about 65 minutes. Lower power is really short. I do it in about 55 minutes and that includes 10 minutes of abs. Upper hypertrophy and lower hypertrophy both take about 55 minutes also. It's funny because I condensed the P.H.A.T routine in 4 days and each work out takes less time than when I did it in 5 days last year due to the decreased volume.
    Yeah thought so, I'm kind of the same way with the DB vs BB in not doing low reps for DBs, just annoying and takes way too much effort to get them in position for those low reps and after a certain point have to have someone either help your elbows up or hand you a DB. Personally I think it's good that you are able to get those all in under an hour. I really dreaded PHAT due to being in the gym so long on the hyper days last year and I think the volume on it was overkill. What you have seems to be a good amount though. Just wouldn't be able to get over all those supersets on the upper hyper day you have haha but then again it all comes down to preference.


    Those Burritos are looking really good, does that food make you bloated at all? Certain spices and exotic foods make me sweat or go right through me lulz

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    he didn't have much down time either between sets, 2 minutes max probably. dat strength gain
    That's good stuff, about what it should be though. I hate people who just sit there and take forever or talk a lot during workouts. See it so much at the college gym and there is only 1 squat rack so it's annoying to say the least.
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    he didn't have much down time either between sets, 2 minutes max probably. dat strength gain
    mwah kisseys ;p

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    Yeah thought so, I'm kind of the same way with the DB vs BB in not doing low reps for DBs, just annoying and takes way too much effort to get them in position for those low reps and after a certain point have to have someone either help your elbows up or hand you a DB. Personally I think it's good that you are able to get those all in under an hour. I really dreaded PHAT due to being in the gym so long on the hyper days last year and I think the volume on it was overkill. What you have seems to be a good amount though. Just wouldn't be able to get over all those supersets on the upper hyper day you have haha but then again it all comes down to preference.


    Those Burritos are looking really good, does that food make you bloated at all? Certain spices and exotic foods make me sweat or go right through me lulz
    The supersets really aren't bad. It's not like I rush back and forth. I just alternate exercises with maybe 30 seconds between. I dreaded being in the gym long too. Shoulders and arms used to take me over an hour. It was too much but then again I made sick gains.

    I do get bloated from sodium mostly. That's why my weight is usually 2-3 pounds higher on weekends when all my foods are high in sodium. If I went out to eat and got a burrito, I'd probably be really bloated but the one I made only has a few simple ingredients so it's not too bad. It's the sodium mostly.
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    What does giving up IIFYM mean? You ate "better" things or you stopped counting or what? Maybe your sodium was lower as a consequence and you dropped some water weight you were holding.
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    Definitely has to do with being bloated from sodium IMO and that's really the only thing that IIFYM doesn't cover to a large degree. But even then if you time it right and learn how much sodium you can handle and don't mind being bloated sometimes then it works.

    Jesus at those rack pulls, forgot you were that strong on those. Do you bounce off the safety bars or pull below the knee? I remember you had a vid before but don't remember what your form was like. That is some serious weight you got there...oh and do you use a belt?
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    Originally Posted by Reid456 View Post
    What does giving up IIFYM mean? You ate "better" things or you stopped counting or what? Maybe your sodium was lower as a consequence and you dropped some water weight you were holding.
    I probably should have clarified. I went back to my original diet before I started incorporating pancakes, burritos and creative things. I have a lot of oats, grilled chicken, lean turkey, broccoli, Arnold Sandwich thins, eggs, peanut butter, whey and that's about it. Pretty much "clean" stuff. The "dirtiest" thing I have is a cinnamon raisin bagel with cream cheese.

    It's definitley the sodium that does it.

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    Definitely has to do with being bloated from sodium IMO and that's really the only thing that IIFYM doesn't cover to a large degree. But even then if you time it right and learn how much sodium you can handle and don't mind being bloated sometimes then it works.

    Jesus at those rack pulls, forgot you were that strong on those. Do you bounce off the safety bars or pull below the knee? I remember you had a vid before but don't remember what your form was like. That is some serious weight you got there...oh and do you use a belt?
    Yeah I know it's from the sodium. Also from the dairy possibly. I figured my body would get used to it after a while but I don't like walking around watery all the time. Sure you can hit your macros with whatever you want and it won't affect body composition but when I constantly don't look as lean as I am, it kind of does in a way. This was just an experiment though. I wanted to see what my "real" weight was. I'll know in a few days and then I'll still go back to my pancakes and stuff. As long as I know I can look leaner at any time by just cutting some stuff out I'm fine with it.

    Haha thanks. I don't bounce at all. I actually let it rest for a second so I don't have the momentum help me up. I put the pins as low as they go which I think is at the top of my knee. I don't use a belt. I do think that using Versa Gripps instead of straps helps. My grip is so strong and I feel stronger as a result.
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    I never understood how people can rack pull so much, that movement feels so awkward for me!
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    What would you say is the difference in sodium intake with your take on "IIFYM" and you eating "clean"?
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    Originally Posted by B-Neva View Post
    I never understood how people can rack pull so much, that movement feels so awkward for me!
    People are just built for different things. I've never been comfortable squatting and I see people my size squatting 4 plates for reps. I can't even imagine putting 4 plates on my back.

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    What would you say is the difference in sodium intake with your take on "IIFYM" and you eating "clean"?
    At least 2-3k mg of sodium. It's also the cheese that I eat. Dairy in general seems to cause bloating.
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    When you were clean bulking after your competitions what macros did you generally increase first?

    I am reverse dieting currently, and all mine are pretty moderate currently 280p 70f and 250c. My initial idea is to increase fats and carbs gradually as the weeks go by, protein I really don't want getting higher than this as that's an expensive diet to maintain
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    Originally Posted by OoFaP View Post
    At least 2-3k mg of sodium. It's also the cheese that I eat. Dairy in general seems to cause bloating.
    More wheat also. Flour and tortillas. Wheat blows me up a bit and I'm not even intolerant.

    If you balanced sodium out with water intake, might help.
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