Protein is not an issue. Yes, you can consume all your protein in one meal. If you realized that it would take at least 24 hours to digest such a large meal, you'd understand a little better why nutrient timing is irrelevant to body composition.
We evolved as opportunistic feeders. We'd gorge one day, and fast for several days because food was hard to come by. The digestive system and all other systems in the body have evolved for erratic eating patterns. The body has the universe mapped out. You keep trying to teach it addition and subtraction. You're wasting your time.
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Thread: When to eat Brown Rice
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I recall him advocating BCAA's as opposed to the timing of full spectrum protein. Not to discredit him, but paper credentials don't mean anything in this industry, so don't take it as gospel without seeing what others have found. At this point, there's more research by even more reputable nutrition gurus that does not support the need for protein timing.
It sure did.
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I'm sure a very large meal (~3000 cal) takes longer than a typical meal, but perhaps you can provide some sort of reference to indicate that the food takes somewhere close to 24 hours to leave the small intestine? That seems like an inordinate amount of time, given that a typical meal takes only 6-8 hours.
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yea it definitely depends on the individual and what their body is used to. i personally feel a lot better and actually have a better drive at the gym when I am fasted. So after a a full work day, about and hour in the gym, i can get home and devour my macros for the day and relax. works for my energy levels and mood.
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05-09-2012, 08:17 AM #56
Correct me if I'm wrong but Layne Norton is Aslo on the board at Scivation. He stands to gain financially from the sales of supplements. Those that eat 6+ times a day are the ones most likely to be purchasing supplements and protein. It's as if the entire push that you "MUST" eat 6 times a day for optimal muscle growth/protein synthesis what have you is led by the supplement industry and their "scientists and ph.d's" in order to maximize sales. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating totally disregarding Layne's research and views, but I'm more than weary of his advice as he stands to gain financially from sales of protein. the fact that just bc he's got a ph.d we should listen to him is also an appeal to authority and it's never wise to blindly follow any authority figure
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Since I do intermittent fasting, I'll chime in w/ my experiences.
My diet...
My first meal is around 11am to noon and it's usually 1/2 cup of sunflower seeds, which comes out to 200 calories. I train around 3PM and my second meal is around 6-7PM which consists of 1 pound of beef or chicken, 2 bananas, 1/2 cup lentils 1/2 cup quinoa and 4 tbspoons of olive oil...Macros for the day: 140 grams of protein, 115 grams of fat, 170 grams of carbs, 2275 calories...I'm cutting.
After the second meal, I will feel full until the workout the next day and my hunger doesn't come until around 5PM, right before the second meal. 6 meals or 1 meal...as it's been said before, it makes no difference in terms of body composition, the only thing that matters is your macros. IMHO, 6 meals a day is not necessary and it's something that the fitness industry came up with to sell protein shakes and meal replacement bars. It has no effect on metabolism and you don't go into "starvation mode" quite as fast as MuscleTech or BSN would like for you to believe.
Do a google search on "prison powerlifting". There are guys in prison squatting and deadlifting over 600 pounds. You tell, do you think that they're getting 6 meals a day in? Do you think they're consuming 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight? Did the cavemen eat 3 times a day? Definitely not but I guarantee you they were stronger than the average gym goer today and in better health, even though they may not have been the most muscular.
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