Would a EC stack and green tea supplement pills work better for weight loss or should I just stick with the EC?
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Thread: EC + Green Tea
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05-01-2012, 02:27 PM #1
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05-01-2012, 03:04 PM #5
Its scientifically proven to support fat loss.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207Supreme Leader of Thermolife
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05-01-2012, 03:30 PM #6
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This is my fifth day into the EC stack, and the day I began EC I also started taking NOW EGCg Green Tea Extract in the 400mg pills. Since I started them both at the same time and have no experience with either separately, I couldn't tell you if it's doing anything extra, but I do seem to be making very nice, visible progress as far as fat loss. No apparent cons, either.
on dat super saiyan motivation time since '02
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05-01-2012, 04:59 PM #12
I would get this
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/no...=F-GOOG-NOW682
rather than this
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This study evaluated the influence of a green tea catechin beverage on body composition and fat distribution in overweight and obese adults during exercise-induced weight loss. Participants (n = 132 with 107 completers) were randomly assigned to receive a beverage containing approximately 625 mg of catechins with 39 mg caffeine or a control beverage (39 mg caffeine, no catechins) for 12 wk. Participants were asked to maintain constant energy intake and engage in >or=180 min/wk moderate intensity exercise, including >or=3 supervised sessions per week. Body composition (dual X-ray absorptiometry), abdominal fat areas (computed tomography), and clinical laboratory tests were measured at baseline and wk 12. There was a trend (P = 0.079) toward greater loss of body weight in the catechin group compared with the control group; least squares mean (95% CI) changes, adjusted for baseline value, age, and sex, were -2.2 (-3.1, -1.3) and -1.0 (-1.9, -0.1) kg, respectively. Percentage changes in fat mass did not differ between the catechin [5.2 (-7.0, -3.4)] and control groups [-3.5 (-5.4, 1.6)] (P = 0.208). However, percentage changes in total abdominal fat area [-7.7 (-11.7, -3.8) vs. -0.3 (-4.4, 3.9); P = 0.013], subcutaneous abdominal fat area [-6.2 (-10.2, -2.2) vs. 0.8 (-3.3, 4.9); P = 0.019], and fasting serum triglycerides (TG) [-11.2 (-18.8, -3.6) vs. 1.9 (-5.9, 9.7); P = 0.023] were greater in the catechin group. These findings suggest that green tea catechin consumption enhances exercise-induced changes in abdominal fat and serum TG.
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05-01-2012, 06:50 PM #18
"However, percentage changes in total abdominal fat area [-7.7 (-11.7, -3.8) vs. -0.3 (-4.4, 3.9); P = 0.013], subcutaneous abdominal fat area [-6.2 (-10.2, -2.2) vs. 0.8 (-3.3, 4.9); P = 0.019], and fasting serum triglycerides (TG) [-11.2 (-18.8, -3.6) vs. 1.9 (-5.9, 9.7); P = 0.023] were greater in the catechin group. These findings suggest that green tea catechin consumption enhances exercise-induced changes in abdominal fat and serum TG."
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05-01-2012, 06:54 PM #19
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05-01-2012, 07:09 PM #21
http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v2.../0801101a.html
Intro^^
Abstract
The thermogenic effect of tea is generally attributed to its caffeine content. We report here that a green tea extract stimulates brown adipose tissue thermogenesis to an extent which is much greater than can be attributed to its caffeine content per se, and that its thermogenic properties could reside primarily in an interaction between its high content in catechin-polyphenols and caffeine with sympathetically released noradrenaline (NA). Since catechin-polyphenols are known to be capable of inhibiting catechol-O-methyl-transferase (the enzyme that degrades NA), and caffeine to inhibit trancellular phosphodiesterases (enzymes that break down NA-induced cAMP), it is proposed that the green tea extract, via its catechin-polyphenols and caffeine, is effective in stimulating thermogenesis by relieving inhibition at different control points along the NA-cAMP axis. Such a synergistic interaction between catechin-polyphenols and caffeine to augment and prolong sympathetic stimulation of thermogenesis could be of value in assisting the management of obesity.Supreme Leader of Thermolife
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05-01-2012, 07:20 PM #22
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05-01-2012, 07:33 PM #23
Its nothing ultra special, not trying to win that argument
They do site study "21" which was done on humans, that are consistent with the vitro studies. I dont have that on hand though.
21 Dulloo AG, Duret C, Rohrer D, Girardier L, Mensi N, Fathi M, Chantre P, Vandermander J. Efficacy of a green tea extract rich in catechin-polyphenols and caffeine in stimulating 24 h energy expenditure and fat oxidation in humans. Am J Clin Nutr (in press).Supreme Leader of Thermolife
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