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    Perfect form

    im just wondering, i can do 5+ reps of 65lbs on the preacher curl with perfect form. that means when i do it i bring the bar all the way down until my arms are straight and then i bring the wait back up without moving anything but my forearms. then i bring the weight back down slowly and repeast. is this perfect form?

    becuz the thing is, i have 14 inch biceps flexed (no im not fat) and i see other that are about my size doing like 95lbs but their form isn all that great. they bring the weight about halfway.

    im just wondering what tru perfect form for preaher curls is. i watched some videos and even saw pros moving all about as they preacher curled. they would arc their back and kinda swing their shoulders
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    Aren't you supposed to not bring your arms all the way down on Preacher Curls(not straight arms)?
    That's what I learnt.
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    Originally Posted by Wcustom
    Aren't you supposed to not bring your arms all the way down on Preacher Curls(not straight arms)?
    That's what I learnt.

    well this guy here is http://www.leehayward.com/workout_programs/preacher.jpg

    if i didnt bring my arms all the way down, i could do a lot more. i want to find perfect form.

    heres one in motion

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...acherCurl.html

    i really hate seeing people forcing a whole set of preacher curls on a weight they obviously cant do. i also saw a guy doing 105 that was about my size bicep wise, he had wack form. arched his back and swung his shoulders. then i saw another guy that was bigger than me doing 85lbs, which was his max, with perfect form. im confused
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    can somebody tell me perfect form for bench press also. i always have trouble with it. i can do about 165lbs (my max, i know im weak) at 153lbs.
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    hey.

    for me, perfect form.. like going about 3/4 way down.. not totally straight.. but not half way either.. totally worked for me... my biceps get really sore and i can just really feel the work out

    as to bench press, i try to close my shoulder blades together and puff out my chest a lil bit... bring it all the way down to your chest (don't bounce it off tho)
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    Make sure, also, that when your doing th bench press...when youre letting the weight down..your elbows should point out perpendicular to your body...isolating the pectorals.
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    i do not do preacher curls but have seent the pictures you posted but on the regular biceps curl i know you are not supposed to go all the way down or up because i've read it in many orthopaedics, scholarly articles, and official guide book to weightlifting at my library. I've read that it tears the muscle too much and can lead to serious damage and more. your supposed to find a certain spot just before that "line" and bring the bar back up at that spot. also if it is heavy weight you can damage your lower back by bringing it all the way up this is obvious.
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    I dont like preachers because of their wierd range of motion, If you do them, try em on the other side on the preacher curl bench, so that your arms hand vertically down.
    but who was lift
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    thx guys. i'll try your suggestions
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    Don't go till your arms are straight. One of the worst things you can do on any exercise. Straight arms in a gym = problems in the future
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    Originally Posted by Goofxta
    Don't go till your arms are straight. One of the worst things you can do on any exercise. Straight arms in a gym = problems in the future
    where should i go till then?
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    Originally Posted by BEhave
    im just wondering, i can do 5+ reps of 65lbs on the preacher curl with perfect form. that means when i do it i bring the bar all the way down until my arms are straight and then i bring the wait back up without moving anything but my forearms. then i bring the weight back down slowly and repeast. is this perfect form?

    becuz the thing is, i have 14 inch biceps flexed (no im not fat) and i see other that are about my size doing like 95lbs but their form isn all that great. they bring the weight about halfway.

    im just wondering what tru perfect form for preaher curls is. i watched some videos and even saw pros moving all about as they preacher curled. they would arc their back and kinda swing their shoulders
    No, perfect form means not completely straightening the arm. Keep them slightly bent and you'll hit the brachialis more which is the purpose of the exercise.
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    **** perfect form!!!!!!


    It`s about muscle overload not form......................dont you get it ?????
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    as above, the worst thing to do with preacher curls is to fully straighten your arms. Simply lower them as far as you can without completly straightening them. Fully straigthening them puts pressure on your elbow tendons and ligaments, and gives your biceps a rest, which you dont want.

    Xavier

    (ps im no expert, or even very experianced, but my dad is a long time gym junkie and that was his advice to me)
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    Originally Posted by BEhave
    im just wondering, i can do 5+ reps of 65lbs on the preacher curl with perfect form. that means when i do it i bring the bar all the way down until my arms are straight and then i bring the wait back up without moving anything but my forearms. then i bring the weight back down slowly and repeast. is this perfect form?

    becuz the thing is, i have 14 inch biceps flexed (no im not fat) and i see other that are about my size doing like 95lbs but their form isn all that great. they bring the weight about halfway.

    im just wondering what tru perfect form for preaher curls is. i watched some videos and even saw pros moving all about as they preacher curled. they would arc their back and kinda swing their shoulders
    Do it like the pros do it, it`s the best way to achive total overload.


    P.S- 65 lb dumbell preacher`s my warmup, no wonder you have 14 " guns.
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    You shouldn't pull your arms all the way to your shoulders.
    And swinging is cheating, cheating yourself.
    It's better to do lower weights properly then higher weights with cheating.
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    Originally Posted by MetzgerMeister
    You shouldn't pull your arms all the way to your shoulders.
    And swinging is cheating, cheating yourself.
    It's better to do lower weights properly then higher weights with cheating.

    lol i dont swing my shoulders. but i see pros and bigger guys doing it all the time
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    Originally Posted by BEhave
    lol i dont swing my shoulders. but i see pros and bigger guys doing it all the time

    Yeah, bacause it works.......after you learn how to avoid injury go hard and heavy with DESCENT form !


    PERFECT FORM is bull**** !


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    I believe I have perfect form

    Started at like no weight to master the form

    just resisting down slow and getting the full range of motion with both right and left equal

    I love seeing 90% of people having terrible form just to do more weight, meanwhile they arn't even getting the body part they want to work out
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    Originally Posted by BEhave
    can somebody tell me perfect form for bench press also. i always have trouble with it. i can do about 165lbs (my max, i know im weak) at 153lbs.
    First of all your not weak, some people just have a harder time working on their chest, second for perfect form (in my opinion) you want to get a good grip, I like to use my thumbs and line them up with the inside edge of the grips on the bar, take it off the rack and DO NOT just let it basically drop to your chest, LOWER it to your chest, let it touch then shoot it back up above the point where you took it off the rack, and dont raise your hips off the bench, if you have to set your feet up on the bench while your work out to avoid this problem.
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    keeping your feet on the bench is a bad idea because you have no balance...keep both feet planted firmly on the floor
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    Originally Posted by Le Derek
    keeping your feet on the bench is a bad idea because you have no balance...keep both feet planted firmly on the floor
    Actually with your feet on the floor you run the risk of raising your hips off the bench and only cheating yourself when struggling to get it up, putting your feet on the bench will prevent this, an even more ensuring way is to cross your ankles and keep your knees at a 90 degree angle off the floor and off the bench (in the air), if you want reasurrance of my tips ask some pro weightlifters, and these 2 forms I have suggested shouldnt throw off your balance and if they do then you have more problems than just your form, maybe you should relearn how to bench, but I doubt you will find trouble with my suggestions.
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    You know what...any exercise that forces yourself to really just limit your strength, and use less weight is bad.

    Do: hammer curls, alt. db curls, barbell curls

    and since this thread got hijacked and now your talkign about benchpress. Putting your legs on the bench limits your strength too... its bad and stupid.
    I have seen a lot and I mean a lot of people in the gym and on these internet forums that are a buck 65 or two and change, shouting that you don’t have to lift heavy to get big
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    Originally Posted by ghostfacekilla
    You know what...any exercise that forces yourself to really just limit your strength, and use less weight is bad.

    Do: hammer curls, alt. db curls, barbell curls

    and since this thread got hijacked and now your talkign about benchpress. Putting your legs on the bench limits your strength too... its bad and stupid.
    It does make it tougher to bench, because there is no possible way to cheat.
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    Originally Posted by A-rod
    Yeah, bacause it works.......after you learn how to avoid injury go hard and heavy with DESCENT form !


    PERFECT FORM is bull**** !


    Trust me
    No one has perfect form. There's no such thing. We all strive for good form. What you're describing is just poor form.

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    It does make it tougher to bench, because there is no possible way to cheat.
    And it does make you look like an idiot. Every time I see someone benching like that I laugh. For two reasons I laugh: 1) They're always small. 2) They're lifting max, a plate and a quarter. Any of them who lifts more does the smart thing and plants their feet when they get above that. Show me anyone who benches a decent amount of weight and does it like that. All it does is put you in a bad, unanchored position.
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    Originally Posted by cssprophet
    No one has perfect form. There's no such thing. We all strive for good form. What you're describing is just poor form.


    And it does make you look like an idiot. Every time I see someone benching like that I laugh. For two reasons I laugh: 1) They're always small. 2) They're lifting max, a plate and a quarter. Any of them who lifts more does the smart thing and plants their feet when they get above that. Show me anyone who benches a decent amount of weight and does it like that. All it does is put you in a bad, unanchored position.
    Ok, at least when you say its bad, you have a point and you know what your talkin about, I admit its not the best of things to do, but it does stop you from tending to lift your hips off the bench and cheat. Oh and one of my football coaches benches 380lbs as a max, (he doesnt weight over 200lbs) and he works out that way sometimes, even when pressing his max to avoid cheating.
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    Originally Posted by Swanny#88
    Ok, at least when you say its bad, you have a point and you know what your talkin about, I admit its not the best of things to do, but it does stop you from tending to lift your hips off the bench and cheat. Oh and one of my football coaches benches 380lbs as a max, (he doesnt weight over 200lbs) and he works out that way sometimes, even when pressing his max to avoid cheating.
    Well there's the guy pressing a lot of weight, but I think it would be better just to work on not raising your butt off the bench.
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    Originally Posted by cssprophet
    Well there's the guy pressing a lot of weight, but I think it would be better just to work on not raising your butt off the bench.
    Yep, your right, but I was just throwin suggestions out there.
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    well ive found using better form gives biceps better shape. i dunno
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    Its ok to cheat a little bit. But only if you start cheating at rep 6-8 and on your second set atleast. If you start cheating at rep 3-4 obviously the weight is too much for you. I believe cheating helps push your muscle to the limit, that's why even ronnie coleman cheats on his last few reps!!!
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