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    Why is everyone making such a big deal out of Hyperdrol?

    Another thing that has gotten totally out of control (to alarming levels actually) is the amount of company reps on here. Fng A. I remember back in '02 when there was no one on here as a company rep. And I mean no one. Now it's a significant portion of the members. You cannot even get objectuive feedback on **** because the reps are pounding it down your throat. Anyway, lets look at this compount Hyerdrol and see what the big deal is (the followign is my opinion):

    Hyperdrol is a 6-Br, androstenedione. This structure has a Br group on the 6th carbon position. Based on the dione configuration, like all diones, it will be absorbed well orally. This structure is VERY similar to aromasin, the perscription version. The only difference between Aromasin and Hyperdrol is that Aromasin has a methyl group on the 6th carbon (not alpha or beta, just planar to the ring) and hyperdrol has a Bromine group. No Ki has been posted so we do not know the molar concentration required for full inhibition of aromatase. Coupled with that, since ATD already works well to everyone's satisfaction, I really do not know why this is needed to be released. Probably because they (Ax) feels that they can lower the dosage per cap to 10 mg instead of 25 mg, therefore cutting their raw cost way down.

    Everyone is running around "yay for hyperdrol," "OMG, let me go jerk off because AX is coming out with a new supplement." People, this is really the same product as ATD so just chill. I saw on one guys report "it's not as strong as superdrol" Well no ****, ace. The fact that they are marketing it with a similar name is unethical, playing on the ignorance of the consumer... now come on all you reps and flame away...
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    Originally Posted by beer20
    <b>HYPE</b>rdrol
    Funny....Lots of hype, no drol to be found --- drol leads a semi-educated (focus on semi) to think that the steroids has direct interaction with the androgen receptor which this does not. Now I get it....
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    Another thing that has gotten totally out of control (to alarming levels actually) is the amount of company reps on here. Fng A. I remember back in '02 when there was no one on here as a company rep. And I mean no one. Now it's a significant portion of the members. You cannot even get objectuive feedback on **** because the reps are pounding it down your throat. Anyway, lets look at this compount Hyerdrol and see what the big deal is (the followign is my opinion):

    Hyperdrol is a 6-Br, androstenedione. This structure has a Br group on the 6th carbon position. Based on the dione configuration, like all diones, it will be absorbed well orally. This structure is VERY similar to aromasin, the perscription version. The only difference between Aromasin and Hyperdrol is that Aromasin has a methyl group on the 6th carbon (not alpha or beta, just planar to the ring) and hyperdrol has a Bromine group. No Ki has been posted so we do not know the molar concentration required for full inhibition of aromatase. Coupled with that, since ATD already works well to everyone's satisfaction, I really do not know why this is needed to be released. Probably because they (Ax) feels that they can lower the dosage per cap to 10 mg instead of 25 mg, therefore cutting their raw cost way down.

    Everyone is running around "yay for hyperdrol," "OMG, let me go jerk off because AX is coming out with a new supplement." People, this is really the same product as ATD so just chill. I saw on one guys report "it's not as strong as superdrol" Well no ****, ace. The fact that they are marketing it with a similar name is unethical, playing on the ignorance of the consumer... now come on all you reps and flame away...

    Damn. I hope you do supplement reviews... we could use some un-biased logs for a change.
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    seriously. there are lots of threads on this, little much.
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    Originally Posted by Adamb83
    Damn. I hope you do supplement reviews... we could use some un-biased logs for a change.
    Dude, I started this whole testing supps for companies when I tested 1-AD (the dione version which was never released) for PA back in 2000. I go way back. I don't test **** anymore because I just don't want to be putting strange **** in my body. supps that work are:

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    as much as i like AX and the products they make i undertand 100% on where u are comming from. and i dont think itsnecessarily because its a new AX product but just a new product in general.people are willing to take annnnyyyy new product now that has no factual or even sencible backup to its "claims" now.when there is a new product out with ingredients that are allrready known and it looks lik a well formulated prouct then some excitement is expected, but for sumthing that has a big ? to almost everyone is kinda "supplement gruopie" to me. calm down wait till u see wat it is all about learn about it and then if u decide to jump on it go for it. BUT dont "hype" up somthing that is in a sence unkown. and this is no disrespect to AX or any other company or board rep. just my 2 pennies
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    I don't think he was saying that in a literal sense...
    Although I was.
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    I don't think he was saying that in a literal sense...
    Hrm.

    It was just a general statement about the quality of logs. Sure, a lot of products do work, but I can't recall the last time I read about something that didn't (As far as product testers are concerned).

    I read through a lot of reviews/logs/write ups before I purchase something, and I have been disappointed countless times when the products don't even come near the hype.

    I've learned that i'd be better off sticking with the basics from now on.
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    Originally Posted by Adamb83
    Hrm.

    It was just a general statement about the quality of logs. Sure, a lot of products do work, but I can't recall the last time I read about something that didn't (As far as product testers are concerned).

    I read through a lot of reviews/logs/write ups before I purchase something, and I have been disappointed countless times when the products don't even come near the hype.

    I've learned that i'd be better off sticking with the basics from now on.
    That problem is solved if you stick to the products I posted above. Body ocatne is really underrated. I sleep like a baby on that too..
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    Originally Posted by Adamb83
    Hrm.

    It was just a general statement about the quality of logs. Sure, a lot of products do work, but I can't recall the last time I read about something that didn't (As far as product testers are concerned).

    I read through a lot of reviews/logs/write ups before I purchase something, and I have been disappointed countless times when the products don't even come near the hype.

    I've learned that i'd be better off sticking with the basics from now on.
    Havent tried Test yet eh? :wink:
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    Hyperdrol is more tham just an AI. It also has other ingredients. Take a look at the label in the Hyperdrol Thread.

    This stand-alone AI is supposedly what Rebound Reloaded is by Designer Supps.
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    Originally Posted by njfreeweight
    as much as i like AX and the products they make i undertand 100% on where u are comming from. and i dont think itsnecessarily because its a new AX product but just a new product in general.people are willing to take annnnyyyy new product now that has no factual or even sencible backup to its "claims" now.when there is a new product out with ingredients that are allrready known and it looks lik a well formulated prouct then some excitement is expected, but for sumthing that has a big ? to almost everyone is kinda "supplement gruopie" to me. calm down wait till u see wat it is all about learn about it and then if u decide to jump on it go for it. BUT dont "hype" up somthing that is in a sence unkown. and this is no disrespect to AX or any other company or board rep. just my 2 pennies
    just a tip dude. sense and sensible are spelt like that <=-

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    Hyperdrol would offer some benefit over ATD if it is not anti androgenic.
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    Originally Posted by landaishan
    just a tip dude. sense and sensible are spelt like that <=-

    not sence and sencible

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    like i said pleeeenty of times b4 ,, i have been graded allll threw school and in college and when im in a f uckin FORUM i just type away with no thought at all..does it bother you THAT much...too anal for me...how i type does not reflect my education at allll lol ,, get over it
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    <b>HYPE</b>rdrol
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    Originally Posted by njfreeweight
    like i said pleeeenty of times b4 ,, i have been graded allll threw school and in college and when im in a f uckin FORUM i just type away with no thought at all..does it bother you THAT much...too anal for me...how i type does not reflect my education at allll lol ,, get over it
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    Funny....Lots of hype, no drol to be found --- drol leads a semi-educated (focus on semi) to think that the steroids has direct interaction with the androgen receptor which this does not. Now I get it....
    Totally agreed, this product is just piggybacking on the familiarity of Superdrol (and other "drols") name-wise. Why else would they call an at least allegedly non-steroidal product "hyperdrol"?
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    I remember back in '02 when there was no one on here as a company rep. And I mean no one. Now it's a significant portion of the members. You cannot even get objectuive feedback on **** because the reps are pounding it down your throat.
    Not a significant portion of POSTERs are reps, but it is nearing a majority of POSTS are by reps, since the people that companies choose for reps are the people who post the most often (for exposure purposes). Notice a lot of the company reps are also the guys with 10,000+ posts.
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    I saw on one guys report "it's not as strong as superdrol"

    Well no ****, ace. The fact that they are marketing it with a similar name is unethical, playing on the ignorance of the consumer... now come on all you reps and flame away...
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    Originally Posted by Adamb83
    Hrm.

    It was just a general statement about the quality of logs. Sure, a lot of products do work, but I can't recall the last time I read about something that didn't (As far as product testers are concerned).

    I read through a lot of reviews/logs/write ups before I purchase something, and I have been disappointed countless times when the products don't even come near the hype.

    I've learned that i'd be better off sticking with the basics from now on.
    Companies that have people run logs, especially the ones giving the people free product, specifically look for people who already have the basics down very well.

    Of course people who have the basics down are going to have good gains regardless of what magic supplement they are taking.

    So you end up with some logs containing good looking results.
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    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    Another thing that has gotten totally out of control (to alarming levels actually) is the amount of company reps on here. Fng A. I remember back in '02 when there was no one on here as a company rep. And I mean no one. Now it's a significant portion of the members. You cannot even get objectuive feedback on **** because the reps are pounding it down your throat. ...
    Cmon thor, all the cool kids are reps now...dont be a hater ! All the reps here are just "good ol' bros" who have our best interest in mind. If a rep recommends a product, you can trust its because they believe in their heart that its the best product for the situation. We are all bros here right ?


    Originally Posted by lakevillethor1
    The fact that they are marketing it with a similar name is unethical, playing on the ignorance of the consumer... now come on all you reps and flame away...
    You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking any of the good bros around here would do such a thing ! Unethical ??? Playing on peoples ignorance for a profit ??? Never !
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    Originally Posted by Joel
    Cmon thor, all the cool kids are reps now...dont be a hater ! All the reps here are just "good ol' bros" who have our best interest in mind. If a rep recommends a product, you can trust its because they believe in their heart that its the best product for the situation. We are all bros here right ?




    You should be ashamed of yourself for even thinking any of the good bros around here would do such a thing ! Unethical ??? Playing on peoples ignorance for a profit ??? Never !
    Normally i would read your post, respond to it, and make you look like a complete idiot, but its not worth my time as you'll ignore all the good points and copy 1 thing out of context, I would manage to make you look like an idiot still, and the circle would continue. Instead im not going to read anything you wrote and instead just call you wrong and an idiot so we both save time.
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    Originally Posted by Lonny
    Normally i would read your post, respond to it, and make you look like a complete idiot, but its not worth my time as you'll ignore all the good points and copy 1 thing out of context, I would manage to make you look like an idiot still, and the circle would continue. Instead im not going to read anything you wrote and instead just call you wrong and an idiot so we both save time.
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    Originally Posted by Lonny
    Normally i would read your post, respond to it, and make you look like a complete idiot, but its not worth my time as you'll ignore all the good points and copy 1 thing out of context, I would manage to make you look like an idiot still, and the circle would continue. Instead im not going to read anything you wrote and instead just call you wrong and an idiot so we both save time.
    great post.


    and to the orginal poster; there is one reason hyperdrol is getting all this h ype; and it can be summed by simply stating : the lottery.
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    todays the 20th... i thought the release date for HD was the 18. AX send me my HD already jeez.
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    Wasn't hyperdrol supposed to be in stores thursday? What's the excuse this time? Also, wasn't there supposed to be a hyperdrol.com?
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