Fellow TKD'ers?

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 04:19 PM

Hey whats up, I am personally a purple belt (one and a half years training consecutively). I started at the age of 19, because it was something I always wanted to do when young. It's been about 2 years since I've done it. But I try my best to keep up with some kicks, I've forgotten most forms though. I stopped mainly due to going away to school for a bit, and the cost to train was huge after awhile. I was one of the better (natural) TKD'ers there. I was a part of a 'team' who would help train others on how to perform things properly. I was usually a model for form. I even got first place in form for purple. But now I am learning boxing on my own. Training myself, besides boxing is much more real world, but its great to have a TKD background. I've been practicing more punches these days, but still utilizing kicks. I just can't give it up, but I do miss it. What about everyone else? Experience?

**fred2367** · 02-17-2008, 04:24 PM

2nd Dan here. I've been training for about 7 years I guess. I cannot really progress futher because I haven't been able to find anyone else who can test me. ( I live in a small town and my old instructor that gave me my prvious promotion had to move ) I love the art but I'm not too enthusiastic about the sport tkd. I have always found it to be lacking and a little too " soft " , but maybe that's just me.

Now * waits for people who have never even practiced tkd to come in and bash the art becasue of what they see in the UFC *

**Ultra_Magnus** · 02-17-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by fred2367

2nd Dan here. I've been training for about 7 years I guess. I cannot really progress futher because I haven't been able to find anyone else who can test me. ( I live in a small town and my old instructor that gave me my prvious promotion had to move ) I love the art but I'm not too enthusiastic about the sport tkd. I have always found it to be lacking and a little too " soft " , but maybe that's just me.

Now * waits for people who have never even practiced tkd to come in and bash the art becasue of what they see in the UFC *

I would love to know and be flexible enough to do TKD kicks. And yes Jiu-Jitsu guy here.

**southpaw447** · 02-17-2008, 04:49 PM

TKD is useless especially in a fight. Complete waste of time. Maybe if your a 12 year old girl.

F*g

I've found Joesondo to be more effective and thats not saying much.

Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling Here

**fred2367** · 02-17-2008, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

TKD is useless especially in a fight. Complete waste of time. Maybe if your a 12 year old girl.

F*g

I've found Joesondo to be more effective and thats not saying much.

Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling Here

And we have our first know it all..

**navery** · 02-17-2008, 04:53 PM

2nd degree red belt here. I started in elementary school and had great potential, winning my first tournament in kata and sparring, i went on to take 2nd in sparring at the New Hampshire nationals. Once i got to middle and high school i stopped because it wasn't offered. I picked it up again here in college and i'm moving towards MMA/ self defense rather than traditional stuff. I'm a Huge fan of Bas Rutten and have most of his videos.
I'd like to pick up my bo staff again and perform.

**southpaw447** · 02-17-2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by fred2367

And we have our first know it all..

Whats that supposed to mean? TKD is useless.

I've been training since most of the people on here were ****ting in pampers

Black Belt in Kyokushin Karate
Blue Belt in Judo
Purple Belt in BJJ under Renzo Gracie
8 Year Dutch Muay Thai
HS Wrestling 34-2

**fred2367** · 02-17-2008, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

Whats that supposed to mean? TKD is useless.

I've been training since most of the people on here were ****ting in pampers

You are 19. Most of the people on here are older than you and most of them haven't stated when they started training.

**** it .You're an idiot. I am not going to waste my time with you. Go and play kid. Let us adults talk.

**JJJJ4** · 02-17-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

Whats that supposed to mean? TKD is useless.

I've been training since most of the people on here were ****ting in pampers

Black Belt in Kyokushin Karate
Blue Belt in Judo
Purple Belt in BJJ under Renzo Gracie
8 Year Dutch Muay Thai
HS Wrestling 34-2

bs...

**MartialArtist06** · 02-17-2008, 06:02 PM

Its good to be well rounded, I have a friend who did the same thing but backwards. He boxed in the community and later on he made it to 2nd DAN in TKD. He's kicking is excellent and he has decent hands to back it up.

**d34dlift** · 02-17-2008, 06:05 PM

I haven't done tkd but I'm a first dan in tang soo do. I quit a few years ago but I miss it aswell.

**MartialArtist06** · 02-17-2008, 06:10 PM

My friend taught me some of the kicks aswell, and they are pretty amazing.

Axe kick, front snap, and back/backhook kick are some of my best kicks

I've always had trouble with Roundhouse kicks from the beginning only because my friend is strict to the proper form and I've learned to be that way.

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 06:12 PM

Awesome.. yeah TKD is by no means useless, it as a martial art still teaches you many things about yourself, your abilities, and reaction in fighting situations.. i also might add I did a little bit of hapkido and judo, which randomly was shown to us at the dojang.. i hated hapkido because all the holds never hurt me, because i'm too flexible, it bothered other people too, i'd just stand there and be like uhuh (seriously, no cocky)

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Yeah the kicks are tough, probably the best kicks to use in a fight are back kicks, front kicks, round kick, side kick. But there's a lot of form involved, hip movement, etc. I am one of the few (atleast at my dojang) who could turn my heel towards the target while spinning my hips around. Actually some other good ones are crescent kicks too, put some weight behind that, and thats really gonna be bad for the person you hit.

**mjfan12** · 02-17-2008, 06:14 PM

did it on and off for 5 years, taught me wtf olympic garbage. never got black since I had to switch schools but came close, not that it meant anything since both dojangs were mcdojos.

gave 12 year olds 1st dan, and this kid was an egomaniacal lardass.

Only thing I like and retain are some of the kicks, like axe, side, spinning hook and back.

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 06:16 PM

And I really don't liek the olympic TKD, it honestly looks like Irish stepdancing on speed. No offense to those of whom might take offense.

**Ultra_Magnus** · 02-17-2008, 06:39 PM

If anything you can take your flexibility and conditioning from TKD and use it in another art that uses kicks.

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ultra_Magnus

If anything you can take your flexibility and conditioning from TKD and use it in another art that uses kicks.

True, but I'd like to improve on my punches, which is why I'm training myself in boxing. (ie, reading on it, and watching youtube tutorials)

In all honesty most real world fights are with fists, I'm not sure why. I think it's some kind of instinct thing. You stand on legs you fight with hands. Maybe that's because most fights are related to being drunk, and the thought of initiating your leg is to complex, and bam you throw out a fist.

**Ultra_Magnus** · 02-17-2008, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by solid_intensity

True, but I'd like to improve on my punches, which is why I'm training myself in boxing. (ie, reading on it, and watching youtube tutorials)

My striking overall sucks eheh. Think ill try muy thai once im blue belt level BJJ

**fred2367** · 02-17-2008, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by Ultra_Magnus

If anything you can take your flexibility and conditioning from TKD and use it in another art that uses kicks.

Well it's not just another kicking art really. My flexiblity also helps a ton with bjj and the guard specifically. I can get into positions that most other people would never be able to. And things like rubber guard are not that big of a deal. Even with stuff like stopping takedowns etc. it's useful becasue I can get so low to the ground.

I am not going to say that tkd is the end all be all because it defintely has some serious drawbacks like any other art, but I think that it has its uses. And flexiblity is defintely a big one.

**solid_intensity** · 02-17-2008, 06:55 PM

There should be an MMA art, a combination of all 'real world' moves from different arts combined into one 'art'. Just cut it down to the efficient, worthy strikes/kicks/throws/holds.. etc

**southpaw447** · 02-17-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by solid_intensity

There should be an MMA art, a combination of all 'real world' moves from different arts combined into one 'art'. Just cut it down to the efficient, worthy strikes/kicks/throws/holds.. etc

It already exists, it's called Sambo

**C Project** · 02-17-2008, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

TKD is useless especially in a fight. Complete waste of time. Maybe if your a 12 year old girl.

F*g

I've found Joesondo to be more effective and thats not saying much.

Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling Here

I do Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, and other Martial Arts... But I still respect Tae Kwon Do. The striking is still phenominal if it's not a McDojo.

In a fight a trained Tae Kwon Do artist would fair well against an untrained street fighter.

**C Project** · 02-17-2008, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

It already exists, it's called Sambo

Krav Maga, F.I.G.H.T., and Hapkido to just name a couple of others.

**southpaw447** · 02-17-2008, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Project_C

Krav Maga, F.I.G.H.T., and Hapkido to just name a couple of others.

True but Sambo is most effective in MMA

**southpaw447** · 02-17-2008, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Project_C

I do Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Wrestling, and other Martial Arts... But I still respect Tae Kwon Do. The striking is still phenominal if it's not a McDojo.

In a fight a trained Tae Kwon Do artist would fair well against an untrained street fighter.

Well I did TKD back when I was younger and it wasn't full contact.

A lot of weak punches and fancy kicks. It just never struck me as an effective art in a fight

**C Project** · 02-17-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

True but Sambo is most effective in MMA

True. Sambo is more of a sport than a killing art.

Originally Posted by southpaw447

Well I did TKD back when I was younger and it wasn't full contact.

A lot of weak punches and fancy kicks. It just never struck me as an effective art in a fight

Those fancy kicks from what I've seen have knock out power. It doesn't really matter how a kick looks as long as it works.

All the TKD over the first three belts are full contact. But as an art, I'd say it's damn good if it's not a McDojo.

**siamesedream** · 02-17-2008, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Project_C

Those fancy kicks from what I've seen have knock out power. It doesn't really matter how a kick looks as long as it works.

All the TKD over the first three belts are full contact. But as an art, I'd say it's damn good if it's not a McDojo.

A lot of things have knockout power. It doesn't mean you'll ever have an opportunity to use them in a real fight against someone who actually knows what they're doing.

**C Project** · 02-17-2008, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by siamesedream

A lot of things have knockout power. It doesn't mean you'll ever have an opportunity to use them in a real fight against someone who actually knows what they're doing.

Very true. But I wasn't talking MMA, or necessarily an average fighter. A TKD kick isn't something to play around with if they are skilled in what they do. It was just my personal experience (I haven't trained in TKD, but I've seen it).

**Takuan** · 02-17-2008, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by southpaw447

Whats that supposed to mean? TKD is useless.

I've been training since most of the people on here were ****ting in pampers

Black Belt in Kyokushin Karate
Blue Belt in Judo
Purple Belt in BJJ under Renzo Gracie
8 Year Dutch Muay Thai
HS Wrestling 34-2

Age: 19

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