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    getting caught downloading illegal music

    how many of you guys know people or have had yourself get caught downloading illegal music?

    What happend?

    how much music was downloaded?
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    i too would like to know this. i dont know anyone who has had that happen to them.
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    i think a lot of it is hype......AKA Mr ****head Lars Ulrich..

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    interesting topic
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    I think they've only prosectued an extremely small number of people, and this is just in the US I think, and the people they've targetted have been the people who download in massive quantities ie. like 100 000 songs on their comp.

    For average guys like you and me with like 800 songs on the computer I don't think you have to worry about it. Record companies need to suck it up and face that facts that in this modern technological age its going to be impossible protect copyrighted forms of media.
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    basically i see it as a free buffet, if i had to pay for it i wouldnt bother getting it, because its free i grab what i can
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    Originally Posted by Strong_Matt
    basically i see it as a free buffet, if i had to pay for it i would bother getting it, because its free i grab what i can
    I have not bought a cd for around six years now....more money saved, which i spend on my vinyl collection for dj'ing.
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    Originally Posted by PHATBOY DONZA
    I have not bought a cd for around six years now....more money saved, which i spend on my vinyl collection for dj'ing.
    See I'm even cheaper than that, I just bought CDJ's so I could burn my DJ music as well. Though I'm just a bedroom DJ, I've heard if you actually perform using pirated material you can get in trouble if someone reports you.
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    Is it really THAT bad that you download music? I mean come on, you're helping out the economy aren't you, by buying blank cd's, cd burners, top of the notch computers, cable, etc...
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    lol interesting perspective
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    so has anyone actually been caught? or known someone to be caught?
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    Originally Posted by Joe00044
    Is it really THAT bad that you download music? I mean come on, you're helping out the economy aren't you, by buying blank cd's, cd burners, top of the notch computers, cable, etc...
    Cmon now man, you know that doesn't even compete with the money from the music industry. And on top of that, even if nobody downloaded illegal music, everybody and they momma would still own cd burners.
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    Originally Posted by BangBangSkeet
    Cmon now man, you know that doesn't even compete with the money from the music industry. And on top of that, even if nobody downloaded illegal music, everybody and they momma would still own cd burners.
    yea cuz then one person would buy a cd and make 15 copys for people
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    I got caught downloading burnout revenge by my school. They quaratined my computer at first and then told me to delete bittorrent and let me back on the server. It was basically just a warning.

    Now I download all the crap I want, bc I started to spoof my mac address, and I haven't been caught.
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    I don't think that the chances of getting got are very high. I know tons of people that download music online, and none of them have gotten caught.
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    Does anyone feel bad that they are robbing people? As a musician, the lack of respect for copyright basically is like having people spit on my face. People work hard to bring that music to you and ask that you pay for their services just like anyone else does in a functioning economy (pay money for goods and services which in this case is writing music and recording cds) and you turn around and take their music for free *illegally* just because you can get away with it. Yeah, cds can be expensive, but there are 99 cent downloads and no one is forcing you to buy them.

    Let the excuses come, I have heard them all and have probably said some of the same things myself at one time. I have yet to hear a legitimate excuse for illegally downloading copyrighted music to keep instead of purchasing the music. As long as you do this, I ask that none of you complain about having anything stolen from you because then you would be hypocritical.
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    Originally Posted by Derock
    Does anyone feel bad that they are robbing people? As a musician, the lack of respect for copyright basically is like having people spit on my face. People work hard to bring that music to you and ask that you pay for their services just like anyone else does in a functioning economy (pay money for goods and services which in this case is writing music and recording cds) and you turn around and take their music for free *illegally* just because you can get away with it. Yeah, cds can be expensive, but there are 99 cent downloads and no one is forcing you to buy them.

    Let the excuses come, I have heard them all and have probably said some of the same things myself at one time. I have yet to hear a legitimate excuse for illegally downloading copyrighted music to keep instead of purchasing the music. As long as you do this, I ask that none of you complain about having anything stolen from you because then you would be hypocritical.
    .......have i stolen your music? are you a member of metallica? are you britney spears?
    I pay for my internet connection, what i do is upto me........
    dont blame us, blame the mass producer of cd-burners and blank cd's.....we are consumers, and what we says go...no amount of red-tape will stop this behaviour.
    We have been getting ripped off for to long, if i like your music i might buy the cd.......upload a track and we will see.

    And i am also a part-time DJ.....and i agree with the sentiment that music should be made available to anyone, and those wishing to listen to it should not get bummed out.
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    Originally Posted by Derock
    Does anyone feel bad that they are robbing people? As a musician, the lack of respect for copyright basically is like having people spit on my face. People work hard to bring that music to you and ask that you pay for their services just like anyone else does in a functioning economy (pay money for goods and services which in this case is writing music and recording cds) and you turn around and take their music for free *illegally* just because you can get away with it. Yeah, cds can be expensive, but there are 99 cent downloads and no one is forcing you to buy them.

    Let the excuses come, I have heard them all and have probably said some of the same things myself at one time. I have yet to hear a legitimate excuse for illegally downloading copyrighted music to keep instead of purchasing the music. As long as you do this, I ask that none of you complain about having anything stolen from you because then you would be hypocritical.




    Musicians want their music to get out....Notice how cheap CD's are at shows...The record company gets all the money from CD's sold in stores anyways...

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    There are hundreds of thousands if not millions of people downloading music and other media illegaly. It will be the next ice age before they can bust everyone. So basically I dont think they are gonna bust people
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    any one remember the south park episode about downloading music?

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    Originally Posted by PHATBOY DONZA
    .......have i stolen your music? are you a member of metallica? are you britney spears?
    I pay for my internet connection, what i do is upto me........
    dont blame us, blame the mass producer of cd-burners and blank cd's.....we are consumers, and what we says go...no amount of red-tape will stop this behaviour.
    We have been getting ripped off for to long, if i like your music i might buy the cd.......upload a track and we will see.

    And i am also a part-time DJ.....and i agree with the sentiment that music should be made available to anyone, and those wishing to listen to it should not get bummed out.
    If you feel like you are getting a raw deal, talk to your record company,..
    Its the principal. The idea that copyright isn't respected IF the artist wants to make some money. Just because cds are expensive, doesn't mean you have to buy them. Lets apply this logic to anything else, if it is expensive = I can take it. So can I steal a ferrari because I think it is overpriced?

    I speak out against stealing in general. Just because I may not have been personally robbed, doesn't mean I can't speak out against stealing from others. I have a right to charge for my music or to give my music away for free, the idea is that it is MY choice. I hold copyrights to my music. This is the way many people make their living. Yes, musicians make a lot if not most of their money from live shows. That doesn't mean the record companies are evil and don't have a right to make money for the service they provide. (making recordings of the musicians' music)

    I will be uploading some music pretty soon that I have recently gotten copyrighted. I will probably provide it for free, but if I want to charge, I have a right to, and people don't have a right to take my music from me without my permission without paying if I ask them to pay. That is my point and that right should be respected.
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    Originally Posted by StoneJaw
    Musicians want their music to get out....Notice how cheap CD's are at shows...The record company gets all the money from CD's sold in stores anyways...

    I'm a classical guitarist and I also play in a metal band...If people want my music for free, they can have it...
    Yes, that's fine. IF you want people to have your music for free, but what if you want to make a little extra money. The idea is that our economy is based on providing goods and services for a fee, so others should respect the service you provide (making music) and the good (a recording) and pay for a copy IF you are charging. If you ask for a couple dollars for a cd, and the people just take it without paying, what isn't stealing about that?

    Yes, record companies get most if not all the money from cd sales, but do they not have a right to? They are a business who provides a service, if you don't like it, don't buy from them. That doesn't mean steal from them instead. You can't do this with anything else, so why music?
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    Originally Posted by east football
    any one remember the south park episode about downloading music?

    "look boys, becasue people like you download music master p could only by his son lil romeo 2 islands for his birthday"
    I saw that episode.

    Is that supposed to mean that because someone is rich, it is ok to steal from them? If the record companies make a lot of money, then it is ok to steal from them? I mean, just because a person or company has a lot of money doesn't mean they don't have right to not be stolen from.

    I know the episode was to supposed address the idea the copyright violation is going to happen no matter what and musicians should make music just for the love of the art, but people are forgeting that basic principles and the right of intellectual property are at stake here.
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    This is a very rare incident, but my friend was dumb for doing it. He was a senior in Highschool, going to college the next year, and was flat broke, his parents werent gonna pay for his college, so he wanted to make some quick money. He bought a ton of blank Cds, and a Cd case maker, stuff like that, and started carrying around all of the hot cds, new ones, ones that were going to come out, burned movies, all of this stuff was burned and illegal. We were waiting outside school at the RTD bus stop, and waiting for the bust to come, when a police officer started to come over. Right when my friend was selling something. My friend covered up the sale fast, but the police oficer announced to everyone who was at the bus stop that there was a person that was illegally burning, downloading and distributing cds, and that he willl be cought. Everyone laughed, except my friend. The next day at school, the cop came into his third period class which is science ( im in that class with him) and called him over and they arrested him. He later found out that he was going to jail for 1 year, with 3 years probation just for all of that. They accused him of stealling over $25,000 in music, and cd sales. Just another reason to not do dumb ****.
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    Originally Posted by Derock
    Yes, that's fine. IF you want people to have your music for free, but what if you want to make a little extra money. The idea is that our economy is based on providing goods and services for a fee, so others should respect the service you provide (making music) and the good (a recording) and pay for a copy IF you are charging. If you ask for a couple dollars for a cd, and the people just take it without paying, what isn't stealing about that?

    Yes, record companies get most if not all the money from cd sales, but do they not have a right to? They are a business who provides a service, if you don't like it, don't buy from them. That doesn't mean steal from them instead. You can't do this with anything else, so why music?

    If it werent for consumers they would have no problem charging $100 for a CD, but because no one would buy it they gotta charge $10.
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    Originally Posted by Strong_Matt
    If it werent for consumers they would have no problem charging $100 for a CD, but because no one would buy it they gotta charge $10.
    Isn't this how just about everything in our economy works? Supply and demand. Only in this case there is a large supply of cds sense they can be copied cheaply by record companies. So people think it is ok. They don't factor in the work that actually goes into making and recording the music on the cds which is where the price of cds really comes from. Why is stealing music ok but not anything else is what I wonder.
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    You don't get caught for downloading music, you get caught for sharing it. To understand the full spectrum of a topic... start out with knowing the basics.
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