Whey Peptide Isolate?

**Another Guy** · 02-16-2006, 07:11 PM

The AST VP2... isn't it Whey Protein Isolate? Why is also says 100% Hydrolized Whey Peptide Isolate? I am now using Hydrolised WPI... is this stuff any different?

**ManowarMan** · 02-16-2006, 07:55 PM

VP2 is 100% hydrolyzed WPI. IMO it's the best protein powder out there. Hydrolyzed means that it's pre-digested for faster absorbtion. Dymatize ISO-100 is also a 100% hydrolyzed WPI. I've recently switched from VP2 to ISO-100 to save some money. So far so good.

**Ir0nMaiden** · 02-16-2006, 08:08 PM

It isn't a WPI... It is simply whey hydrolyzate or hydrolyzed whey(aka hydro whey). True protein is prolly the best source you'll find though.

**Another Guy** · 02-17-2006, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Ir0nMaiden

It isn't a WPI... It is simply whey hydrolyzate or hydrolyzed whey(aka hydro whey). True protein is prolly the best source you'll find though.

Oh... so what is Peptide?

**Another Guy** · 02-17-2006, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by ManowarMan

VP2 is 100% hydrolyzed WPI. IMO it's the best protein powder out there. Hydrolyzed means that it's pre-digested for faster absorbtion. Dymatize ISO-100 is also a 100% hydrolyzed WPI. I've recently switched from VP2 to ISO-100 to save some money. So far so good.

I've seen ISO-100 too... and its profile look better than VP2... of course it is just numbers and the difference isn't huge... but what makes VP2 better?

**spoch** · 02-17-2006, 04:55 AM

VP2 is better then say...Isopure, which is a good why isolate itself, because VP2 is also an isolate...but a hydrolysate isolate. This is a more predigested form, therefor less gets wasted as it goes right into your bloodstream.
Peptides are the aminoacids that construct the molecule. That " Oligopeptide" they speak of is a tri-peptide ( 3 amino acids).
Isopure on the other hand, is Ion-Exchange, which really isnt a good thing. Ion Exchange is a chemical process that destroys Cysteine, which is responsible for Glutathione production. This isnt desireable because Glutathione is the most anabolic amino acid available. While I still think Natures Best is a good, reputable company and Isopure is a good protein...a hydrolized whey isolate would be better. And to be honest...even a Nectar(Syntrax) would be better then Isopure because its not Ion-Exchange, and its cold filteres to enhance molecular stability.

**Patrick Arnold** · 02-17-2006, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by ManowarMan

VP2 is 100% hydrolyzed WPI. IMO it's the best protein powder out there. Hydrolyzed means that it's pre-digested for faster absorbtion. Dymatize ISO-100 is also a 100% hydrolyzed WPI. I've recently switched from VP2 to ISO-100 to save some money. So far so good.

no hydrolyzed protein is hydrolyzed 100%. 10% is usually the degree of hydrolysis.

unless they mean it only contains hydrolyzed protein.

does it mix well? real hydrolyzed whey does not mix well at all

the highest quality best tasting and cheapest whey protein isolate product is sold through Giant BTW.

please try it

**Patrick Arnold** · 02-17-2006, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Ir0nMaiden

It isn't a WPI... It is simply whey hydrolyzate or hydrolyzed whey(aka hydro whey). True protein is prolly the best source you'll find though.

i tried true protein's hydrolyzed whey

i am sorry but this did not have the properties of a whey protein hydrolysate. it mixed too well and tasted just like whey protein concentrate

so i am left skeptical

**Skigazzi** · 02-17-2006, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

the highest quality best tasting and cheapest whey protein isolate product is sold through Giant BTW.
please try it

FWIW Mango-Pineapple is amazing.

**adyn** · 02-17-2006, 08:13 AM

The AST stuff sounds good I might have to get some.

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-14-2006, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

no hydrolyzed protein is hydrolyzed 100%. 10% is usually the degree of hydrolysis.

unless they mean it only contains hydrolyzed protein.

does it mix well? real hydrolyzed whey does not mix well at all

the highest quality best tasting and cheapest whey protein isolate product is sold through Giant BTW.

please try it

what is gaint? where can i research it more /?

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-15-2006, 12:02 AM

I take cytosport. how does that look? from what i see it looks good to me.

maybe not nothign like vp2 but i cant afford that now. i used to take it.

**Ledge** · 08-15-2006, 02:21 AM

Originally Posted by Another Guy

I've seen ISO-100 too... and its profile look better than VP2... of course it is just numbers and the difference isn't huge... but what makes VP2 better?

what makes it better?... ill tell you, its aspartame free, unlike the ISO-100. Dymatize's Elite Whey though, is very good.

**Anssi Manninen** · 08-15-2006, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by Another Guy

The AST VP2... isn't it Whey Protein Isolate? Why is also says 100% Hydrolized Whey Peptide Isolate? I am now using Hydrolised WPI... is this stuff any different?

The degree of hydrolysis is so low that its meaningless.

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-16-2006, 02:04 AM

so is vp2 the best put there or will something like cytosport complete or dymamtize i-soo or whatever, up there with vp2?

im looking for somethign cheaper than vp2 with just as good,even better or near vp2 quality. any buyers?

**Anssi Manninen** · 08-16-2006, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by GoalsmotivateU

so is vp2 the best put there..

Hell no.

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-17-2006, 10:02 PM

ok so please give me your opinion on what soem basic best out there are as far as quality

patrick Arnold i know you know a lil about this area feel free to give some brand names that will work beter than others.

in the case of these proteins is it like most clothing, you get what u pay for?

**Coulaid** · 08-17-2006, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

the highest quality best tasting and cheapest whey protein isolate product is sold through Giant BTW.

please try it

Bump... Giant is sooo tasty. The dark choc= real dark choc. It's unreal.

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-18-2006, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Coulaid

Bump... Giant is sooo tasty. The dark choc= real dark choc. It's unreal.

what brand is giant?

**wuzzo87** · 08-18-2006, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by ManowarMan

VP2 is 100% hydrolyzed WPI. IMO it's the best protein powder out there. Hydrolyzed means that it's pre-digested for faster absorbtion. Dymatize ISO-100 is also a 100% hydrolyzed WPI. I've recently switched from VP2 to ISO-100 to save some money. So far so good.

Is ISO-100's amino acid profile as good as VP2? (i don't mind the aspartame)
I'm an ISO100 user too(switched for partly the same reason & finally found another user

-wat flava u liked?), and i've used VP2 once. Iso 100 tastes better too, IMO.
Everytime i mention ISO100, it doesn't get as much attention as when i mention VP2.

Yeah, back to the question asked, what makes VP2 better? (apart from aspartame)...

So, is ISO-100 as good as VP2?? both are 100% hydrolized whey right?
(i've tried both and ...i don't know how to tell the difference- iso100 has 0 carbs and 1g of protein more than VP2 though)...

**Amino89** · 08-18-2006, 07:21 AM

Giant Nutrition. Ergopharm owns it.

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-22-2006, 02:49 AM

ill think ill try ISO100.

i dont see his gaint stuff in the stores i buy from

o do howevere think patrick arnold knows his stuff, in this partiuclar area.

**pyr0maniac** · 08-22-2006, 03:53 AM

Patrick, I am eager to hear your opinion of VP2. Is it a decent WPI?

**GoalsmotivateU** · 08-23-2006, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by pyr0maniac

Patrick, I am eager to hear your opinion of VP2. Is it a decent WPI?

Im eager to know how

1.cytosportcomplete whey protein tests
2. How America Whey Test(there wpi ion-exchanged)

and i want to know is vp2 or Giant or Is-soo , will it make that much of a difference, in strength levels and musclegrowth? Can anyone answer these questions....Patrick?

My Reasoning and Inutition tell me as long as its good high quality it wont wont a significant difference because as technology improves, so does the protein. Does that make sense?

**GoalsmotivateU** · 11-27-2006, 10:18 PM

One of the main thigns ive relized is the amino acid profile. Thats one of the most important factors when finding a good quality whey protein. Vp2 and Iso-100 are about the same there some of the highest ive found. American Whey is low. I havnt saw giant yet. how good is the amino acid profile on one scoop of gaint? hows the price? Best quality ive found so far is Iso-100 and im still looking for a better price. Iso-100 is chepaer than vp2.

**homeroars** · 12-06-2006, 07:32 PM

I READ YOU POST AND I SAW YOU HAVE A BROAD KNOWLEDGE ABOUTH ISOPURE PROTEINE.

HAVE BEEN TAKIN ISOPURE ZERO CARB FOR A MONTH AND RESULTS ARE OK.

I HAVE NOTICED A SEDIMENT IS FORMED IN THE BOTTOM OF MY SHAKER IF I LEFT MY SHAKE FOR 10 MIN, AND ONCE IS FORMED IS IMPOSIBLE TO DISOLV IT AGAIN.

wHAT IS THAT!!! IS IT PART OF THE ION EXCHANGE RESIN USED TO ISOLET THE WHEY?

IS IT DANGEOROUS FOR MY HELATH???

**homeroars** · 12-06-2006, 07:34 PM

I READ YOU POST AND I SAW YOU HAVE A BROAD KNOWLEDGE ABOUTH ISOPURE PROTEINE.

HAVE BEEN TAKIN ISOPURE ZERO CARB FOR A MONTH AND RESULTS ARE OK.

I HAVE NOTICED A SEDIMENT (LIKE A WHITE SAND) IS FORMED IN THE BOTTOM OF MY SHAKER IF I LEFT MY SHAKE FOR 10 MIN, AND ONCE IS FORMED IS IMPOSIBLE TO DISOLV IT AGAIN.

wHAT IS THAT!!! IS IT PART OF THE ION EXCHANGE RESIN USED TO ISOLET THE WHEY?

IS IT DANGEOROUS FOR MY HELATH???

**smeton_yea** · 12-11-2006, 03:44 AM

No shouldnt be. Iso-100 profile is much higher than others. ALWAYS CHECK YOUR AMINO ACID PROFILE. example the L-leucine in iso-100 is almost 3,000 for one scoop. Which is up there with VP2. VP@ and Iso-100 are the only proteins ive found with superior amino acid profiles. Im sure there are others.

Just look at the company American Whey, i have used their stuff for years, but i recently found out there amino acid profile of one scoop is about one half the amount of Vp2 or Iso-100.

Can i get rep points for my reputation?

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