hey, i' new to the site and was wondering what supps i should look into. i have been lifting for about 1.5 yrs but not seriously and have used multis, whey and flax seed oil on and off...i haev also tried Glutamine. i have leart a lot form my mistakes in the past and have figured out what i need ot do. now i am plannigng to go on a bulkin plan for about 4-5 months and my basic aim is to gain about 2" on my upper arms (they're 15" rigt now), and make the rest of the uper body grow proportionately. i was wondering if this is gonna be possible and what supplements will really help me make these gains.
on another note, what exercises wud one reccomend for incresing biceps length ( i feel mine are kinda short) and for more mas and thickness???
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08-22-2005, 12:40 AM #1
best supplements for MUSCLE GAIN!!!
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08-22-2005, 08:11 AM #2
Diet:
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
-Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you
- It is NOT efficient to try and lost fat AND gain muscle at the same time
- It is NOT efficient to try and lost fat AND gain muscle at the same time
- It is NOT efficient to try and lost fat AND gain muscle at the same time
- BMR and nutrition calculator (click here)
- Total Daily Protein Intake (for best results I recommend AROUND 2g per lb of bodyweight)
- Fatloss basics. READ IT:
- Foods (Good vs. Bad):
- If there was ONE SINGLE KEY to the gains I made in the 1 1/2 years when I went from 175-225 (my best.. leanest gains), it is OATS / STEEL CUT OATS ! The emphasis here is that oats / steel cut oats are a INEXPENSIVE, HEALTHY, yet VERY CALORIE DENSE FOOD. I saw lean gains like I had never seen before. But NO THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED THEM. This gets old fast. I added about 1 cup of oats to each protein shake.
When bulking (to gain lean muscle mass), I aim for:
- 1lb lean beef per day
- 1 Gallon Skim Milk per day
- Around 2000 cals per day from oats
- Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
- Lean chicken
- Lean turkey
- Lean beef / sloppy Joes (manwich)
- Hamburger Helper
- Lots of pasta
- Lots of tuna
- Potatoes
- Rice (Note: If you can afford it you can do things like boneless chicken breast, steaks etc.. etc..)
- Veggies (Fresh if possible)
When cutting (to lose fat):
- I eat many of the same foods above, but with a lower TOTAL DAILY CALORIE INTAKE
- I put a emphasis on PRE- and POST-workout nutrition, and the end result is that most of my calories are eaten before my afternoon workout. I have found this to be ideal (for me).
Supplements:
- SAVE $$$$$ ! ! STICK WITH THE BASICS ! ! )- Stay on creatine, there is no need to cycle it ! (cycling and loading are totally optional)
Multivitamin
10 lb bags of Optimum Whey Protein (This includes a great BCAA profile AND glutamine) (Note: I recommend Choc / Choc Mint only)
Creapure Creatine or Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL
Cold Pressed Flaxseed oil (and / or fishoil
- Creatine timing (when / how to take it):- For best results, aim for AROUND 2g of total daily protein intake per lb of bodyweight EVERY SINGLE DAY ! !
Example:
Bodyweight: 200lbsHere is why:
Total daily protein intake: 400g
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...oprejudice.htm
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=337536
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=392907
Workout / Routine:
- I recommend a MAX-OT, 5x5, HST (or similar) routine with a EMPHASIS ON:- Squatting / Leg pressing- Both BB's and DB's for best results
- Deadlifts
- Barbell benchpress (Including flat / decline / incline)
- Concentrate more on measurements and less on bodyweight
- Weigh yourself once a week. Should gain (or lose) around 1lb per week (depending on goals).
- Concentrate on form first, in order to stay injury free
- Emphasize both range of motion, and mind-muscle connection
- With intensity, strength gains, and a proper bodybuilding diet, the size gains (or fatloss) will come
- Make sure and have a spotter when working out your major muscle groups, preferrably someone bigger than you
- Don't be scared of overtraining. Simply listen (pay attention) to your body, and ask more questions later if you think you are overtraining.
Cardio:
- If possible, do cardio at least 8 hours from when you lift weights
- If possible, do cardio in the AM after sleeping.
- No need to do cardio on a empty stomach, but many prefer to due to nausea
- Jumping rope is a very efficient form of cardio
- HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) is a efficient form of cardio
Recovery (A.K.A GROWTH !):
- With proper intensity MUST COME PROPER RECOVERY !
- Make sure and get enough protein right before you go to sleep.
- Make sure and get enough protein/carbs right when you wake up
- Make sure and get enough deep, quality sleep (Not getting enough quality sleep is the #1 newbie mistake. You should aim for at least 8 QUALITY hours of sleep per night):http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_1_pr.htm- Make sure and get enough protein / calories on off days (This is when your body will be recovering) It is important to be consistent !
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_2_pr.htm
- Make sure and get proper pre and post-workout nutrition:Carbs pre and post workout.
Protein pre and post workout.
Creatine pre and post workout:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=272067
H20 / Cell volumization:
- Make sure and drink enough water throughout the day (This is CRITICAL ! !) I drink about 1 liter per hour. (Keep in mind I am currently over 220lbs so you may not need this much) Click here to read about why this is SO IMPORTANT:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329Good luck !
http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....le=301stretch2
http://www.biochemj.org/bj/313/0697/3130697.pdf
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/author22.htm
Disclaimer: The above post is IN MY OPINION, or IN MY EXPERIENCE, unless otherwise noted.Free agent
Research and Development Consultant
11+ Years Experience
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08-22-2005, 10:31 AM #3
pu12en12g, thanks a bunch for the advice... now i notice that ure an ectomorph so i guess u needed those extra calories to make you gain all that weight. i think that may be too much for me tho, cuz my body is endomesomorphic and i may put on a LOOOOOT of fat with that much calorie intake... currently i am at 6'1" 204 lbs at around 15% bF( i think)...what do u think????
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08-23-2005, 11:18 PM #4
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08-24-2005, 03:27 AM #5
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Remember to be consistent or you will fail.
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