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    Proof evolution isnt real...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/thevinerhyme

    Go to his videos...Alot of the ones on evolution are on the last page...I think you can actually ask him questions also...


    Yes he is Christian but he has like 30 videos talking about evolution and I cant organise them on here, I havent even seen them all...But look through his videos on the ones talking about evolution...He knows what he is talking about...I might try and organise some of them later but these are good videos...
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    Originally Posted by Alfro View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/user/thevinerhyme

    Go to his videos...Alot of the ones on evolution are on the last page...I think you can actually ask him questions also...


    Yes he is Christian but he has like 30 videos talking about evolution and I cant organise them on here, I havent even seen them all...But look through his videos on the ones talking about evolution...He knows what he is talking about...I might try and organise some of them later but these are good videos...
    the video you posted sounds alot like that XIIIXIII guy, i wonder if they are the same people. the post about spirits is the one i am refering to.
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    Isn't the theory of evolution being proven wrong by a video on youtube one of the signs of the apocalypse?

    Serious.
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    I watched one video. It was him saying "Scientists say this is a transitional fossill....it isn't." Without addressing why scientists think that or bringing in any evidence to support his views.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    the video you posted sounds alot like that XIIIXIII guy, i wonder if they are the same people. the post about spirits is the one i am refering to.
    Not sure I was just looking at some pointless post someone made here and clicked on it and saw some videos and eventually led into one by this guy.Look at the stuff he says about evoultion, even some of the stuff he says about God being real very good videos.

    I am going to bed now though, I am going to church early...Gotta get some sleep...
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    Originally Posted by NormandyRoad View Post
    Isn't the theory of evolution being proven wrong by a video on youtube one of the signs of the apocalypse?

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    how come when the word "theory" is used by scientist it is taken as fact, but when the word "theory" is used to describe conspiraciest it is taken as crazy?
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    I'm convinced with internet videos made buy a guy in his room saying evolution isn't real. PRAISE JESUS!
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    Originally Posted by solidus2k3 View Post
    I'm convinced with internet videos made buy a guy in his room saying evolution isn't real. PRAISE JESUS!
    Jesus is really an alien named Sananda. Dont believe me? heres proof.

    http://www.omegansareliars.com/

    this is proof that the youtube video is wrong and that hes a christian that doesnt really know anything about the alien he believes in.
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    Originally Posted by solidus2k3 View Post
    I'm convinced with internet videos made buy a guy in his room saying evolution isn't real. PRAISE JESUS!
    How does him being in his room have anything to do with what he is saying?

    He isnt some guy with no education either...Read like the first paragraph to his website...

    http://www.swordandshield.biz/
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    how come when the word "theory" is used by scientist it is taken as fact, but when the word "theory" is used to describe conspiraciest it is taken as crazy?

    not trying to derail this thread but the question seems to fit here.

    btw the videos made alot of since to me..
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    how come when the word "theory" is used by scientist it is taken as fact, but when the word "theory" is used to describe conspiraciest it is taken as crazy?

    not trying to derail this thread but the question seems to fit here.

    btw the videos made alot of since to me..
    one has emprical data the other does not
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    how come when the word "theory" is used by scientist it is taken as fact, but when the word "theory" is used to describe conspiraciest it is taken as crazy?

    not trying to derail this thread but the question seems to fit here.

    btw the videos made alot of since to me..
    The word "theory" in no way describes how truthful or possible something is. It is just a way of describing an idea. In science all theories, ie all ideas, have to be falsifiable and go through rigourous testing. Even after something is proven a thousand times over it is still often called a theory rather than a law because scientists want to leave things open to correction.

    It is just that when most scientists are talking about theories they are referring to ones that have a large body of evidence behind them so they treat them as if they are fact, so it sounds like they are using the word theory in place of law or fact.
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    Originally Posted by skinnycalves View Post
    one has emprical data the other does not
    so the word theory is no longer theory when presented with facts? if so then why when people post facts they are still called conspiracy theorys? why do scientist all of sudden get a pass go and collect 200 for the word theory? sounds like double standard to me.

    do you remember in school when the word theory meant a educated guess?

    so if a christian quotes a scientist it is known as theory, but if a scientist were to say the same thing the christian posted it is known as theory (fact). double standard!
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    Originally Posted by EDC View Post
    The word "theory" in no way describes how truthful or possible something is. It is just a way of describing an idea. In science all theories, ie all ideas, have to be falsifiable and go through rigourous testing. Even after something is proven a thousand times over it is still often called a theory rather than a law because scientists want to leave things open to correction.

    It is just that when most scientists are talking about theories they are referring to ones that have a large body of evidence behind them so they treat them as if they are fact, so it sounds like they are using the word theory in place of law or fact.
    ok i can believe that.. but then why do evolutionist take everything scientist say as FACT and run with it, then call 911 truth movers tin foilers? you see my point, a theory to a detectice is just that a theory until he is presented with the facts., see my point? once presented with the facts (note the word facts) it should no longer be called a theory, but now a fact.

    so all in all evolution is a theory, correct?
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    so all in all evolution is a theory, correct?
    yes. the definition varies widely. scientists have proof this dude doesnt have proof. scientists look for TRUTH. Religious ppl look to confirm their beliefs.

    1 A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
    2 The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
    3 A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
    4 Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
    5 A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
    6 An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    ok i can believe that.. but then why do evolutionist take everything scientist say as FACT and run with it, then call 911 truth movers tin foilers? you see my point, a theory to a detectice is just that a theory until he is presented with the facts., see my point? once presented with the facts (note the word facts) it should no longer be called a theory, but now a fact.

    so all in all evolution is a theory, correct?
    Evolution is a theory. One supported by mountains of evidence. One that has withstood 150 years of testing and criticism. Hence it should be taken as fact until new evidence presents itself.

    Academia has a great system for keeping high standards. You are not anything, nor are your ideas anything, until you have withstood publishing all of your claims and evidence in a peer reviewed journal open to criticism and evaluation from your entire field and more. Evolution has done very well in peer review again and again and again.

    9/11 conspirators on the other hand get shot down as soon as they start talking science.

    There is a reason why biologists are rarely creationists and engineers are rarely 9/11 nuts.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    so the word theory is no longer theory when presented with facts? if so then why when people post facts they are still called conspiracy theorys? why do scientist all of sudden get a pass go and collect 200 for the word theory? sounds like double standard to me.

    do you remember in school when the word theory meant a educated guess?

    so if a christian quotes a scientist it is known as theory, but if a scientist were to say the same thing the christian posted it is known as theory (fact). double standard!
    christian scientist is an oxymoron, who am i going to trust the people who gave me airplanes, ovens, and cars or a guy who reads the bible

    you know how people get their wisdom teeth pulled because their wisdom teeth ride up their mouth, this means at one time we had a bigger jaw that housed more teeth, EVOLUTION, are you gonna tell me my wisdom teeth are fake lol
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    how come when the word "theory" is used by scientist it is taken as fact, but when the word "theory" is used to describe conspiraciest it is taken as crazy?
    The ability for the scientific community to admit when it is wrong maybe? The fact that scientists draw conclusions from evidence instead of making up crack pot conclusions and then trying to manipulate evidence to support it, could that be it?

    Case in point, the discovery just this last week that two ancient human ancestors lived at the same time rather than one being an evolved version of the other like previously thought. Instead of denying the new evidence and stubbornly sticking to dogma, the scientific community said "we were wrong about that aspect, here's what the new evidence suggests really happened".
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    Originally Posted by skinnycalves View Post
    christian scientist is an oxymoron, who am i going to trust the people who gave me airplanes, ovens, and cars or a guy who reads the bible

    you know how people get their wisdom teeth pulled because their wisdom teeth ride up their mouth, this means at one time we had a bigger jaw that housed more teeth, EVOLUTION, are you gonna tell me my wisdom teeth are fake lol
    aspertame, atom bomb, methyldroxin, tear gas, mustar gas, tap water, hydrated oil, steroids, antibiotics in food, perserves, prozac, etc,,,

    all scientist made!

    and you believe scientist?
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    aspertame, atom bomb, methyldroxin, tear gas, mustar gas, tap water, hydrated oil, steroids, antibiotics in food, perserves, prozac, etc,,,

    all scientist made!

    and you believe scientist?
    dont forget viagra, not sure what the world would do without that.
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    Originally Posted by NormandyRoad View Post
    The ability for the scientific community to admit when it is wrong maybe? The fact that scientists draw conclusions from evidence instead of making up crack pot conclusions and then trying to manipulate evidence to support it, could that be it?

    Case in point, the discovery just this last week that two ancient human ancestors lived at the same time rather than one being an evolved version of the other like previously thought. Instead of denying the new evidence and stubbornly sticking to dogma, the scientific community said "we were wrong about that aspect, here's what the new evidence suggests really happened".
    correct which they then should have openly admitted all they knew about evolution was then wrong. back to the drawing board. instead they made more baseless claims as if they were there. scientist want to invent this false walk thru as if they were there and saw the whole thing, when in reality all the do is brainwash people with sensless material.

    btw i am the one who posted that very thread on here!
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    correct which they then should have openly admitted all they knew about evolution was then wrong. back to the drawing board. instead they made more baseless claims as if they were there. scientist want to invent this false walk thru as if they were there and saw the whole thing, when in reality all the do is brainwash people with sensless material.

    btw i am the one who posted that very thread on here!
    but it didn't prove "all they knew about evolution was then wrong" so why would they say that?

    Religion has endless scientific holes in it, if you are willing to disgard evolution on one error then you surely must be an athiest too.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    aspertame, atom bomb, methyldroxin, tear gas, mustar gas, tap water, hydrated oil, steroids, antibiotics in food, perserves, prozac, etc,,,

    all scientist made!

    and you believe scientist?
    scientists can admit if they are wrong, faith cannot

    floods, fire, devestation, eternal suffering, stoning children for disobedience, put to death for eating pork (christians conveniently ignore this), spanish inquisition, salem witch trials

    thats all besides the point, do you doubt the existence of wisdom teeth

    and another product of science YOUR COMPUTER, all built on scientific principles, the electricity to power your computer probably from a nuclear powerplant that works off of radio active decay which says the earth IS NOT 6000 YEARS OLD (most christians here don't believe this is true, but it seems like you would),

    wisdom teeth mofo

    Alfro how old are you? if you do not mind me asking

    i think one day you will become athiest
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    Originally Posted by skinnycalves View Post
    scientists can admit if they are wrong, faith cannot

    floods, fire, devestation, eternal suffering, stoning children for disobedience, put to death for eating pork (christians conveniently ignore this), spanish inquisition, salem witch trials

    thats all besides the point, do you doubt the existence of wisdom teeth

    and another product of science YOUR COMPUTER, all built on scientific principles, the electricity to power your computer probably from a nuclear powerplant that works off of radio active decay which says the earth IS NOT 6000 YEARS OLD (most christians here don't believe this is true, but it seems like you would),

    wisdom teeth mofo
    lol nuclear power, yet more bad things science has made!

    atleast G-d gave us wind, water and solar power.. scientist gave us a power that will kill us all.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    lol nuclear power, yet more bad things science has made!

    atleast G-d gave us wind, water and solar power.. scientist gave us a power that will kill us all.
    Wow logic isn't your strong point is it? If a god supposedly created everything then it also created science, nuclear power, and gave scientists the "power that will kill us all"

    just out of interest, how old are you? and is english your first language? no offence intended.
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    lol nuclear power, yet more bad things science has made!

    atleast G-d gave us wind, water and solar power.. scientist gave us a power that will kill us all.
    lolololl....stfu

    no science gave you wind, water, and solar power you imbecile, do you think god invented those wind fans that generate power

    einstein (not god) - photoelectric effect (incase you don't know this light can interact with metals to release electrons as photons, when electrons flow, charge moves, when charge moves, power is generated)

    furthermore the sun is one giant nuclear radiator
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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    lol nuclear power, yet more bad things science has made!

    atleast G-d gave us wind, water and solar power.. scientist gave us a power that will kill us all.
    I think this is why christians cant be taken serious.
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    Originally Posted by skinnycalves View Post
    lolololl....stfu

    no science gave you wind, water, and solar power you imbecile, do you think god invented those wind fans that generate power

    einstein (not god) - photoelectric effect (incase you don't know this light can interact with metals to release electrons as photons, when electrons flow, charge moves, when charge moves, power is generated)

    furthermore the sun is one giant nuclear radiator
    who created the wind, the sun the water that powers them? let me guess scientist...

    you see you evolutionist see the molecules and atoms under the microscope, i see the person who created them and he is the same person who gave you the same eyes you see those atoms with. but i am sure it all happened by chance that you can see at all. and lucky for you your eyes are not stuck in your arm pits!

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    lol. dont you fellas know that wisdom teeth, like fossils, were planted there by scientists to try to convince people that evolution exists?

    yep yep yep. it's a worldwide conspiracy where they sneak into your room at night and hammer them in without you knowing at all

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    Originally Posted by DigitalMuscle View Post
    who created the wind, the sun the water that powers them? let me guess scientist...

    you see you evolutionist see the molecules and atoms under the microscope, i see the person who created them and he is the same person who gave you the same eyes you see those atoms with. but i am sure it all happened by chance that you can see at all. and lucky for you your eyes are not stuck in your arm pits!

    see design!
    give credit where credit is due mofo. I CREATED THE SUN, WATER, AND EARTH. here is my holy text below that is proof:

    "dacougarmech did it"
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