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    losing and gaining

    i am now doing wieght training.previously was doing jogging and i lost weight.the question is that when doing jogging will i actually shrink or loosen my muscle.cause i still have fats on my chest and stomach, although not ripped.that's why i want to do jogging and carry weight so that i wil lose fats and build muscles.
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    Re: losing and gaining

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    i am now doing wieght training.previously was doing jogging and i lost weight.the question is that when doing jogging will i actually shrink or loosen my muscle.cause i still have fats on my chest and stomach, although not ripped.that's why i want to do jogging and carry weight so that i wil lose fats and build muscles.
    If you use Glutamine you will not lose any muscle while doing cardio. I do 5 days a week of moderate to intense cardio(jogging, bike riding) with no signs of muscle loss. If you don't use it, there is a possibility more than not you will lose some muscle while dieting to lose weight. Hope this helps.
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    how much muscle would u think u would lose without glutimine for example if i lost 60 pounds how much would any1 think u would lose and what methods if any can u reduce this loss without glutimine?

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    Originally posted by fatad
    how much muscle would u think u would lose without glutimine for example if i lost 60 pounds how much would any1 think u would lose and what methods if any can u reduce this loss without glutimine?

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    You would lose alot, buddy.I lost 60 once and i lost alot. You have to take this supplement. You u don't, you will be guaranteed to lose muscle. But don't let this stop u from losing buddy. I just started taking Glutamine just 8 months ago. Lifting weights does help. Upping your cals will help too.Let me know what you think of this.
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    why do you guys post the same sh*t every day and expect someone to answer? just READ about it before you post because there are answers to almost every question in the BB.com articles. i just copied one:

    (from dr. hussman)

    There are a lot of people who simplistically believe that you can't build muscle and burn fat at the same time, since building muscle is anabolic and burning fat is catabolic. This is wrong, but it's wrong in an interesting way. Clearly, you can't be anabolic and catabolic at full-throttle in the same instant, but you can certainly affect your body's ability to accomplish both during the day.

    There are dozens of chemicals and hormones involved in regulating metabolism, but for practical purposes, two that you have the ability to do much about. They are insulin and cortisol.

    Insulin is one of the main anabolic hormones in the body. The only way that glucose (sugar) can get into the cells to be used as energy is for it to be accompanied by a little insulin guy. Insulin does two things: it says "Hey, we've got sugar in the bloodstream here. Stop burning fat so that we can get rid of this stuff first." And then the insulin helps to transport the sugar into the cells.

    So insulin is "anabolic". It helps the muscle cells to get fed. Well, muscle cells and fat cells. If your muscle glycogen stores are full, insulin feeds your fat cells instead. If you spike your insulin higher by eating a significant amount of simple carbohydrates (such as sugar) when your energy stores are full, the excess carbs are converted to fat and escorted to your hips. The insulin then causes a subsequent plunge in blood glucose, often followed by fatigue. Brain cells can't store glucose, so that plunge in blood glucose can also cause dizziness. So, too much sugar and you may find yourself saying "I'm fat because I'm tired, and I'm tired because I'm fat." Bottom line: insulin is triggered by the consumption of simple carbohydrates. Except when you want to intentionally spike your insulin levels, you should choose carbohydrates that trigger a minimal release of insulin. These are called low-glycemic carbohydrates.

    Low glycemic carbs are generally ones that are attached to fiber. Think "unprocessed". Carbs that are detached from fiber are digested much more rapidly and cause that spike in blood glucose. Lack of fiber is also by far the most common cause of irregularity. Here are a few examples of low & high glycemic foods:

    Low glycemic: apples, oranges, pears, bananas (firm) and other whole, low-sugar fresh fruits, oatmeal, brown rice, whole-wheat pasta, bran cereal, barley, bulgur, basmati, Kashi and other whole grains, beans, peas (esp. chick and black-eyed), lentils, whole corn, potato with skin (a little higher glycemic than other choices, but OK), yams, milk (preferably low-fat), and other partial-protein carbohydrates such as yogurt and soy.

    High glycemic: fruit juice, white bread, most "wheat" bread (which is usually just white bread with a little fiber added), white rice, bagels, croissants, cornflakes, cake, candy, sugary drinks, beer.

    Cortisol is one of the main catabolic hormones in the body. It is responsible for triggering the breakdown of protein (such as muscle tissue) into building blocks called amino acids. It also inhibits glucose from getting into the cells, causing a further wasting of muscle. Cortisol is also a "junk food" hormone: high levels of cortisol generally trigger a strong craving for high carbohydrate snacks. Several things raise your level of cortisol - lack of food, lack of sleep, prolonged high-intensity or high-impact exercise, and weight lifting. This is why your workouts should generally not exceed about an hour. Bottom line: cortisol is triggered by several forms of stress, and your job is to shut it down.

    There are several strategies for shutting down cortisol. First, it's essential to eat regularly and get enough sleep. Second, take Vitamin C (about 500-1000 mg is effective), and glutamine, which is the main ingredient of EAS CytoVol. Both quite safe. Vitamin C is not "fat soluble" - your body doesn't store it for long, so anything your body doesn't need is just flushed out. There's increasing evidence that availability of the "branched-chain" amino acid Leucine, closely following a workout, can kick-start new muscle synthesis.

    In general, you'll maximize your fat loss if you wait about an hour after your workouts before eating. The exception, in my view, is when you smell ammonia. Ammonia is essentially nitrogen, and that sensation after a workout is a signal that you've raised your cortisol levels enough to trigger the breakdown of amino acids by the liver (gluconeogenesis). When the body needs energy, it metabolizes glycogen, then fat, then protein. If one isn't fast enough, it goes down the list. But if it's going to feed on protein, you want it to go after something other than muscle tissue. So if you smell ammonia, you should have a protein and carbohydrate containing supplement immediately after your workout, preferably along with a protein stimulating supplement such as L-Leucine (whey protein is about 20-25% Leucine).

    A few additional reasons to avoid spiking insulin except after a weight-training workout. About one in four people are insulin resistant, meaning that the pancreas has to pump out a lot more of the stuff in order to be effective. That excessive insulin reduces the ability of the body to burn fat as energy even after the glucose is cleared. Insulin resistance also typically leads to an increase in "visceral fat" around the organs, particularly in the abdomen, and increases the risk of coronary disease. By keeping your carbohydrates low-glycemic, you reduce the need for this excessive output of insulin, and you keep your fat-burning in high gear.

    Insulin resistance is more common if you have diabetes in your family, or if your diet has been high in sugar, high glycemic carbs, and saturated fats. My vote for worst food in the world: funnel cake (called "elephant ears" in the Midwest): white flour dough, deep fried in lard, covered with powdered sugar. If you ever find yourself standing in line for this stuff, just skip on over and stand in the line to get your head examined.

    Fortunately, one excellent fact is that exercise itself improves insulin sensitivity. Also, you'll significantly improve your fat loss if you concentrate on eating low glycemic carbs in your meals. A few supplements are known to improve insulin sensitivity: alpha lipoic acid (ALA), green tea extract, and chromium picolinate. All are available at Bodybuilding.com. Normal dosages (read the label on whatever brand you pick) are sufficient. Since they change the responsiveness to insulin, diabetics who are insulin-dependent should use these only under a doctor's supervision.
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    Cause sometimes bros don't feel like searching and they want a quick answer. Hey, i can't turn a bro down who wants to lose weight. So i'll reply. You can tell the ones who really need help verses the ones who want a quick solution.
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    thanks bro

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    Cause sometimes bros don't feel like searching and they want a quick answer. Hey, i can't turn a bro down who wants to lose weight. So i'll reply. You can tell the ones who really need help verses the ones who want a quick solution.
    ill tell u the reason why i asked here.......because i want it in english how many big words were there in that article!!!!! lol

    anyway just asking, i have lost 30 pounds so far with about another 25 - 30 left to go i havent noticed any muscle loss just a lose in size (my biceps have shrunk by an inch) atleast thats what i hope it is

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    ill tell u the reason why i asked here.......because i want it in english how many big words were there in that article!!!!! lol

    anyway just asking, i have lost 30 pounds so far with about another 25 - 30 left to go i havent noticed any muscle loss just a lose in size (my biceps have shrunk by an inch) atleast thats what i hope it is

    thanks again to those that replied
    Great job!!! I assumed the big words would be too much if your english wasn't up to par. I had a bro from india pm me with the same problem. If you needs some extra questions asked, just let me know or pm me. Good Luck bro . Peace. Once again great job.
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