alr industries jungle warfare/bad ass mass stack

[391rippy]

i just finished this stack, and it was probably the worst experience i've ever had with any supplement

i am currently bulking at around 4500 calories per day. training is modified DC style, 3-4 times a week.

side effects:
achy joints. it took about 1 week to really notice this effect, but it was very tough on me since i already have joint problems
poor recovery. my recovery worsened dramatically, going from 24 hours to about 96 hours before soreness would end.
increased fat storage around chest and midsection. i find it odd that an AI would make my gains less lean
lethargy. though my sleeping hasn't changed, my body has felt very "drained"


i noticed no change in strength or muscle mass. i also noticed no "testosterone-related" side effects such as acne or changes in libido.

[leonidas300]

PM spaceclown about this as I know he had a similar issue with Jungle Warfare.

[Guard_Pass_old]

Sorry you had a bad experience.

[John Prophet]

what was your last stack and how long ago was it?

what did you take in the 3-4 weeks b4 this stack?

[RenegadeUR]

Thats a review to remember. I was going to try to get on a stack like this because a body of mine loved BAM but it did it with Ebol and suggested it to me. THanks for the review though I will look at it with a different perspective now

[JCAZ2010]

Thats too bad man, thanks for the review.

[user98511001541]

seems to be a few really bad reviews on JW/BAM

but, if you already had joint pains, why take it in the first place when its a known side effect? How were your gains? How long did you run it for?

just curious is all, sorry you had a bad experience

[ironstrife]

thx for the review

[391rippy]

but, if you already had joint pains, why take it in the first place when its a known side effect?

because the AI in JW isn't supposed to be too strong. i've had some problems with high doses of AIs in the past, but i figured that this wouldn't be too bad. i will say that it took a while before i started having problems, whereas ATD and aromasin were noticeable within a few days.

How were your gains? How long did you run it for?

i did not notice any increase in muscle mass, only fat mass. no noticeable strength gains.
i ran it for three weeks and quit because i was not happy with what it was doing

[230plus]

I too had these effects...plus acne. I returned it for an in-store credit. Overall my body felt very lethargic.

[SwolenONE]

I actually just finished reading PA's ALR post at AM, now I read this. I used 2 weeks of JW and liked it, but stoped usage upon learning of methl-atd so I wasnt able to accurately form an opinion on the product. Anyway, thats terrible that you got such poor results from this stack, this one post alone will keep me from trying BAMass

[391rippy]

my joints have been very dry as of late. my knees are so bad that it was painful to walk up and down the stairs at work today.

also, my right hip, shoulders, and even my ankles are feeling dry now.

anyone know why this could be happening?

[Guard_Pass_old]

"results" in on AM about ADED for anyone interested.

[Docta J]

Eating 4500 calories a day and no mass gains or strength gains at all?

[qw3r]

damn, im sorry to hear it didnt work out for you. im not going to BS you with the usual junk spouted off such as:

*your diet must not be on point
*you must be overtraining
*not enough rest
*you must be undertraining (do you workout at all)
*if you cant gain without supps, see above

simply put as we all know, there is no magic pill that will work for everyone. im sure you are fully educated and know what you are doing, so it is just unfortunate that it didnt workout for you while it does for others. i would ask how it compares to the like of ebol/xfactor/hyperdrol/etc, but its clear that jw/bam just wasnt right for you.

how long as it been since you stopped dosing and are these sides still effecting you?

[391rippy]

Eating 4500 calories a day and no mass gains or strength gains at all?

sorry, that sentence should say "no change in rate of strength or muscle mass gains." i did put on some weight during this time, but not at a faster rate than before (no change in diet. only supplements before JW/BAM were multi, antiox, and creatine gluconate).

how long as it been since you stopped dosing and are these sides still effecting you?

i finished dosing june 9th.

[bongd]

That sucks to hear about, man. I think it's really easy to gauge things while training under DC too. Ah well.. best of luck with your training. Live and learn!

[eldawg]

my joints have been very dry as of late. my knees are so bad that it was painful to walk up and down the stairs at work today.

also, my right hip, shoulders, and even my ankles are feeling dry now.

anyone know why this could be happening?

How much water are you drinking and how much omega-3 are you consuming in your diet/from supplements?

[391rippy]

How much water are you drinking and how much omega-3 are you consuming in your diet/from supplements?

typically 2-3 gallons of water. i eat almonds with almost every meal, so i should be good on omega-3. i've used various AI's in the past, and this feels the same. it's like all of my joints are out of lubricant and everything feels dry and brittle.

[D-Money]

That sucks man. I had amazing results on jungle warfare. I put on over 19 pounds on a one month cycle. 12 pounds on my second cycle a few months later. I had none of your negative side effects either. I guess that just shows how much everyones bodies are different, and there isn't anything that will work great for everyone.
P.S. I never used BAM, just JW.

[nordicnacho]

typically 2-3 gallons of water. i eat almonds with almost every meal, so i should be good on omega-3. i've used various AI's in the past, and this feels the same. it's like all of my joints are out of lubricant and everything feels dry and brittle.

Almonds have Omega 3? Who told you this? You need fish oil!

[391rippy]

shoulders, hips, and ankles are back to feeling normal. knees are still a little dry, but back within a normal range of pain.