Mhp Sarm-x

**yb200cc** · 05-09-2007, 12:17 PM

just looking at my online supplement provider and saw they got a new product by mhp called SARM-X. it sounds way too good to be true. what r your thoughts on this?

here's the link to mph's SARM-X page

http://www.maxperformance.com/produc...&cat=75&page=1

**MattyH7688** · 05-09-2007, 12:21 PM

trash save ur money

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 12:25 PM

Most people here will tell you its BS, but Im almost done with my first bottle and have nothing but good things to say about it. I have gained 5lbs, gotten leaner, and have never been this vascular in my life. Yeah and its all Placebo

**yb200cc** · 05-09-2007, 12:31 PM

o, ok...i have one more question though. Is this a steroid? it sure makes it sound like one, but w/o all the androgenic afftect tho. or is it just some mixture they made and are saying it's better than steroids like so many supplement companys say.

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by yb200cc

o, ok...i have one more question though. Is this a steroid? it sure makes it sound like one, but w/o all the androgenic afftect tho. or is it just some mixture they made and are saying it's better than steroids like so many supplement companys say.

Basically yeah, its not a steroid nor is as strong or will it give you steroid like results. But it worked exceptionally well for me, didnt experience any side effects, would definetely try it again.

**MattyH7688** · 05-09-2007, 12:38 PM

real SARMS are far from being produced in the supplement world for non presciption use

**BuckeyeMuscle** · 05-09-2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by IzzyG

Most people here will tell you its BS, but Im almost done with my first bottle and have nothing but good things to say about it. I have gained 5lbs, gotten leaner, and have never been this vascular in my life. Yeah and its all Placebo

Cool, but regardless of your "results," its FAR from a pharmaceutical SARM.

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Cool, but regardless of your "results," its FAR from a pharmaceutical SARM.

Oh totally, but honestly how many supps out there really are what they say they are? Anybody expecting miracles from their supplementation needs to rethink things over a little bit. But for what it is, especially considering I have been on a 2000 calorie and sometimes less, low carb diet combined with high volume training this product was worth my money I feel.

**BuckeyeMuscle** · 05-09-2007, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by IzzyG

Oh totally, but honestly how many supps out there really are what they say they are?

When I buy a product that says it's creatine, I fully expect it to be creatine.

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

When I buy a product that says it's creatine, I fully expect it to be creatine.

Yeah well most new products dont just say "creatine" on the label. And actually if you look up the ingredients in the product there have studies done with certain steroids that when combined with one ingredient in the sarmx that show it to be selective to muscle only. Not sure where I saw it, but when I get some time I'll try finding it. Soo obviously not a full blown pharmaceutial sarm, but similiar...

**warbird00** · 05-09-2007, 01:06 PM

looks almost as good as dat der cell tech!

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 01:21 PM

Mhp sarm is garbage. You can gain 5 lbs in a month off just normal food. Save your money and go buy some chicken breasts or treat yourself to some steak.

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

Mhp sarm is garbage. You can gain 5 lbs in a month off just normal food. Save your money and go buy some chicken breasts or treat yourself to some steak.

Well by the looks of it you better stock up on chicken breasts, better yet go buy a cow eat that, and actually lift the weights in the gym...

**warbird00** · 05-09-2007, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by IzzyG

Well by the looks of eat you better stock up on chicken breasts, better yet go buy a cow eat that, and actually lift the weights in the gym...

ENGLISH, you speak it mother****er?

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 01:30 PM

Its false advertising and by people buying this crap you are helping to fund bs companys like that.

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by warbird00

ENGLISH, you speak it mother****er?

Yes it is the language I whisper into your sisters ear every night

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 01:34 PM

Nice personal attacks your so cool. I just think mhp is duping the consumer and it looks like they got you. Its your money do with it as you please.

**warbird00** · 05-09-2007, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by IzzyG

Yes it is the language I whisper into your sisters ear every night

lol, i dont have a sister, but i got a little brother
im sure you roll that way

**MattyH7688** · 05-09-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by warbird00

lol, i dont have a sister, but i got a little brother
im sure you roll that way

LOL

**Bigwack** · 05-09-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

Mhp sarm is garbage. You can gain 5 lbs in a month off just normal food. Save your money and go buy some chicken breasts or treat yourself to some steak.

Why don't you contact the company direct? Perhaps they'll be able to answer all your questions.
info@maxperformance.com

**IzzyG** · 05-09-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

Nice personal attacks your so cool. I just think mhp is duping the consumer and it looks like they got you. Its your money do with it as you please.

Yup they got me good! Great results, vascularity, and quality muscle gee I was really suckered!

**Bigwack** · 05-09-2007, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

Nice personal attacks your so cool. I just think mhp is duping the consumer and it looks like they got you. Its your money do with it as you please.

Matter of fact, send me a private message, I would prove you wrong. MHP is the only company in this industry that stands 100% behind its products, go on the website and check it out.
www.maxperformance.com

**MattyH7688** · 05-09-2007, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Dave

MHP Sarm-X . . . supp based SARM
Their claims
Quote:
More Selective And Powerful Than Testosterone!
Prohormones are a thing of the past - SARM-X is the Future! SARM-X represents the start of a new era in hormone induced hypertrophic muscle growth. SARM-X is the first of a new class of designer androgenic/anabolic steroid memetic compounds called SARMs (Selective Androgen Receptor Modulators). SARMs are bio-technically engineered to exert powerful androgenic/testosterone effects. With the advent of SARM technology, the scientific community boasts this new class of compounds is capable of superceding the effectiveness of testosterone in producing massive muscle building effects, due to the potent and selective actions specifically engineered for targeting androgenic receptors in muscle tissue and stimulating more rapid muscle growth.

Through the implementation of breakthrough SARM technology, SARM-X offers all bodybuilders, regardless of their genetic predisposition, the potential to experience the single-most intense muscular development ever seen in bodybuilding science. Potent super anabolic stimulation of skeletal muscle is now possible with SARM-X.

The Power & Selectivity of SARMs

SARM-X possesse more powerful muscle building effects than other androgens such as testosterone and other steroid derivatives. SARM-X has the unique ability to selectively target androgen receptors specifically in muscle tissue and not bind to the androgen receptors in other tissues and organs. This greatly increases its anabolic activity in muscle tissue.

While testosterone and other steroid derivatives possess powerful anabolic actions, these actions do not take place exclusively on the androgen receptors found in muscle mass. Therefore, a significant portion ends up being utilized on other androgen receptors found throughout the body. This non-selectivity limits the delivered dose to muscle tissue and minimized its anabolic effects. SARM-X selectively targets muscle and delivers a full mega dose directly to muscle tissue. This superior selectivity triggers the greatest possible anabolic muscle building reaction and makes SARM-X the most advanced legal over-the-counter compound available anywhere.
I did a search on the active ingredient Trans-4-Hydroxy-3-Methoxycinnamic Acid . . . aka ferulic acid

Quote:
Experientia. 1979 May 15;35(5):696-9. Links
Trans-4-hydroxy-3-methoxycinnamic acid (ferulic acid) inhibits the effect of androgens on the rat prostate.
Saito T, Nohno T, Yoshida H, Yokoya H.
Trans-4-hydroxy-3-methoxycinnamic acid (ferulic acid, FA) antagonized the effect of exogenous androgens on the ventral prostate (VP) in castrated rats as well as the effect of endogenous androgens in intact rats. FA, however, had no effect on the seminal vesicles (SV) and levator ani muscle (LAM), nor oestrogenic effect in female rats and mice. FA did not antagonize the receptor binding of testosterone nor inhibit the conversion of testosterone into 5 alpha-dihydrotestosterone (DHT).

PMID: 446686 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
Based on that info it looks like it specifically blocks androgens @ the prostrate but I see no results to support any anabolic effects . . . it said levator ani muscles were unaffected. Maybe MHP has more info . . ?

As a side not I found some articles supporting it's use as an antioxidant

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=788519

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 01:46 PM

You can prove its a sarm? I would love to see this. If you can I would be the first to buy it. Would a real Selective androgen receptor modulator really be 50 bucks or less.

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 01:51 PM

If it works for you thats great. The point I am making is itis not what it is advertised to be.

**MattyH7688** · 05-09-2007, 02:07 PM

care to comment on my post mhp

**LOVINGTHEEIRON** · 05-09-2007, 02:15 PM

I dont look for a response. I looked at there site. They are charging ignorant ass people 80 bucks for this crap. The thing about it I take their whey protein, its good stuff, but this SARM **** and that dormant gene **** lieing horse**** product is just ripping people off.

**Bigwack** · 05-10-2007, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by MattyH7688

care to comment on my post mhp

That is a great study, although you are missing the rest of it. E-mail info@maxperformance.com for the rest of the study. When combined with actual test, ferulic acid showed to dramatically increase muscle mass as well as having little effect on prostate gland, liver and other organs...

**Bigwack** · 05-10-2007, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

I dont look for a response. I looked at there site. They are charging ignorant ass people 80 bucks for this crap. The thing about it I take their whey protein, its good stuff, but this SARM **** and that dormant gene **** lieing horse**** product is just ripping people off.

Yes, you are quite the smart consumer... No disrespect my man, but in our business you never want to undersell your distributors. You can buy Sarm-X from BB.com (http://bodybuilding.com/store/mhp/sarm.html) for as low as $45.95!! We are not in the business of ripping anyone off, matter of fact, we are the only company that guarantees 100% of its label claims. As I mentioned before you can contact us at any time with any questions you may have, you haven't even bothered. I don't have access to the studies from the road, but anyone in the office will be happy to help you. But whatever, you know best!!

**user1111** · 05-10-2007, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by LOVINGTHEEIRON

Mhp sarm is garbage. You can gain 5 lbs in a month off just normal food. Save your money and go buy some chicken breasts or treat yourself to some steak.

Than why even buy supplements if this is the case?

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