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    diet to prevent diabetes

    My dad was just informed that he is on the verge of develping type 2 diabetes. He is in his fifties, 5'8 and 200 pounds. I'd like to help him set up a diet, but all of my knowledge comes from the bodybuilding perspective.

    I've already given him a list of 'clean foods,' and things that have a low glycemic index. I was wondering if anyone could give me a macro breakdown of what his diet should be. I would appromimate he should be getting 2000 calories a day, or slightly less. Bear in mind, he does not lift weights, but does do light cardio, walking on a treadmill 6 days a week.

    I've basically told him that the carbs must go. However, that means he will have to get more protein and fats to make up the lack of carbs. I'm leary about telling him to get 300 g's of protein, or any huge number like that. Would that be bad for a fifty-two year old man who does not lift?

    I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me a macro breakdown of a safe and effective diet for him.

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    Originally Posted by wooderson View Post
    My dad was just informed that he is on the verge of develping type 2 diabetes. He is in his fifties, 5'8 and 200 pounds. I'd like to help him set up a diet, but all of my knowledge comes from the bodybuilding perspective.

    I've already given him a list of 'clean foods,' and things that have a low glycemic index. I was wondering if anyone could give me a macro breakdown of what his diet should be. I would appromimate he should be getting 2000 calories a day, or slightly less. Bear in mind, he does not lift weights, but does do light cardio, walking on a treadmill 6 days a week.

    I've basically told him that the carbs must go. However, that means he will have to get more protein and fats to make up the lack of carbs. I'm leary about telling him to get 300 g's of protein, or any huge number like that. Would that be bad for a fifty-two year old man who does not lift?

    I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me a macro breakdown of a safe and effective diet for him.

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    see how he feels about doing a ketogenic diet.
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    Get him the Dr. Atkins book.
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    Remember though, physical activity and exercise are important therapeutic modalities for patients with, or at risk for, diabetes also.

    Getting him to develop a physically active lifestyle will bring about better glycemic control because of improved glucose disposal and insulin sensitivity, which leads to reduced hyperinsulinemia, and a lowered need for medication.
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    Right now he is walking on a treadmill. He has heart disease, so I am worried about having him lifting weights or doing anything too intense.

    As far as Atkins goes, I don't feel like that a good long term solution.

    Do you think just moderating them would be good enough...like 100 g's a day? I don't know what a good number is for his situation. Well actually, zero is probably a good number, but probably not realistic.
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    Originally Posted by wooderson View Post
    Right now he is walking on a treadmill. He has heart disease, so I am worried about having him lifting weights or doing anything too intense.

    As far as Atkins goes, I don't feel like that a good long term solution.

    Do you think just moderating them would be good enough...like 100 g's a day? I don't know what a good number is for his situation. Well actually, zero is probably a good number, but probably not realistic.

    the ketogenic diet (65/30/5) is perfectly fine long term , it has been proven time and time again. you dont think cavemen ate bread/oatmeal/and processed carbs do ya
    hell - we're in ketosis the 1st 6months we're alive and thats the most important time for the proper nutrients.
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    alright, and you think 2000 calories a day is about right for weight loss?

    Robby,
    65/30/5.....that is protein/fats/carbs right?

    325 g's of protein
    60 g's of fat
    25 g's of carbs

    .....if I've done the math right
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    my father is in a similar situation, his diabetes is just diet regulated no meds. problem is he has CFS and is constantly in pain and cant do much if any exercise except when our pool is open in the summer and he can swim. hes 6'2" and probably 280lbs i wanna help him loose weight but i dunno how to help someone who cant exersize
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    Originally Posted by robbytjohn View Post
    the ketogenic diet (65/30/5) is perfectly fine long term , it has been proven time and time again. you dont think cavemen ate bread/oatmeal/and processed carbs do ya
    hell - we're in ketosis the 1st 6months we're alive and thats the most important time for the proper nutrients.
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    alright, and you think 2000 calories a day is about right for weight loss?

    Robby,
    65/30/5.....that is protein/fats/carbs right?

    325 g's of protein
    60 g's of fat
    25 g's of carbs

    .....if I've done the math right
    Nope, try again.
    The diet is essentially comprised of 88% fat,10% protein, and 2% carbohydrates.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet
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    I like robby's diet better.
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    Originally Posted by wooderson View Post
    I like robby's diet better.
    I think you're missing the point

    His 65 is the fat ratio, 30 is the protein ratio, and 5 is the carb ratio.
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    so @ 2000 calories:
    130 g's of fat
    150 g's of protein
    25 g's of carb
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    Originally Posted by wooderson View Post
    As far as Atkins goes, I don't feel like that a good long term solution.
    Well it would be. If you really want to help you will get him the book. Maybe you have some misconceptions about the diet? Ask any questions you want about it and I will answer.
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