Can most people with a job ever know freedom?

[eddiehaskell]

Whatever the job unless it's just something you love doing and would otherwise do anyway -- can the typical 9-5 + commute + time getting ready + any extra time/company events, etc person ever really know what freedom is?

for most, from the age of 4-5 years old their life revolves around a schedule. No time to ponder life for an extended period of time until they're 65+ years old.

[Visel]

People are too pucci to take a break from work, srs.

My ideal: Save a few hundred thousand, try to get months of "unpaid leave" or otherwise up and quit, enjoy some leisure but keep things relatively frugal, get back into the work force in 6-18 months. Maybe do this once every 7 years or so.

[eddiehaskell]

People are too pucci to take a break from work, srs.

My ideal: Save a few hundred thousand, try to get months of "unpaid leave" or otherwise up and quit, enjoy some leisure but keep things relatively frugal, get back into the work force in 6-18 months. Maybe do this once every 7 years or so.

you gotta get out with the feeling of knowing you'll never be back or answer to anyone but God and yourself. that feeling of having a taste but knowing in those last few months you'll being going back for 7 years....like the last week of summer vacation during school years on steroids.

[r32gojirra]

Who tf is commuting to their job anymore?

Restaurant and service industry workers?

Lmao

[Kewbrah]

I have a lot more freedom with a job and lots of money than I did when I was unemployed and broke.

[theraskal]

NO, because they can't quit the consumption and so suffer Lifestyle Inflation: more they make the more they spend on BiggerHouse, Automobiles, Toys, Travel.....

and they complain, the LOVE to complain about how hard they work and annoy others with the "wish I had time to read-books/exercise/..." but they CHOOSE their MATERIALISM and have none to blame but themselves. I'm speaking of people making a reasonable wage who COULD squirrel away plenty and retire EARLY if they chose to practice a MASCULINE DISCIPLINED RESTRAINT of the consumption

[r32gojirra]

I have a lot more freedom with a job and lots of money than I did when I was unemployed and broke.

When OP talks about a “job” his frame of reference is a minimum wage menial labour gig with set hours and zero autonomy

Which to be fair would suck

[BigGuyTruth]

No.

[eddiehaskell]

Who tf is commuting to their job anymore?

Restaurant and service industry workers?

Lmao

when i go to uotown charlotte near lunch or 5pm i see hella people walking around in work attire.

google tells me 14% of people work from home

[MikeLowrrrey]

People are too pucci to take a break from work, srs.

My ideal: Save a few hundred thousand, try to get months of "unpaid leave" or otherwise up and quit, enjoy some leisure but keep things relatively frugal, get back into the work force in 6-18 months. Maybe do this once every 7 years or so.

You don't need a few hundred thousand lol.


Ideally I'd save $50k and fuk off to Thailand for a year. Hang with the locals, train Muay Thai 25 hours/wk. Would be GOATED. I really need a sales Job man, but im too pucci

[eddiehaskell]

NO, because they can't quit the consumption and so suffer Lifestyle Inflation: more they make the more they spend on BiggerHouse, Automobiles, Toys, Travel.....

and they complain, the LOVE to complain about how hard they work and annoy others with the "wish I had time to read-books/exercise/..." but they CHOOSE their MATERIALISM and have none to blame but themselves. I'm speaking of people making a reasonable wage who COULD squirrel away plenty and retire EARLY if they chose to practice a MASCULINE DISCIPLINED RESTRAINT of the consumption

bingo

[Muzzlrpress]

How are you going to be free with no money or survival skills?

I don't know how unemployment works, but I'm sure it won't allow you a decent home and any luxuries.

So you'll have freedom to do what? Stay in your house and play video games all day? You can't eat where you want, go where you want, buy what you want, etc..

Buddhist monks are more free than the NEET at home getting fat off of food stamps and welfare checks, and I don't think they even have wifi.

[Muzzlrpress]

You don't need a few hundred thousand lol.


Ideally I'd save $50k and fuk off to Thailand for a year. Hang with the locals, train Muay Thai 25 hours/wk. Would be GOATED. I really need a sales Job man, but im too pucci

Get one and you'll grow out of it.

[eddiehaskell]

How are you going to be free with no money or survival skills?

I don't know how unemployment works, but I'm sure it won't allow you a decent home and any luxuries.

So you'll have freedom to do what? Stay in your house and play video games all day? You can't eat where you want, go where you want, buy what you want, etc..

Buddhist monks are more free than the NEET at home getting fat off of food stamps and welfare checks, and I don't think they even have wifi.

you've got to find a way to have money coming in without work. i found a way just laying on butt on the computer as a teen. made it a mission from then on to never have to sell myself/soul to anyone.

[MikeLowrrrey]

you've got to find a way to have money coming in without work. i found a way just laying on butt on the computer as a teen. made it a mission from then on to never have to sell myself/soul to anyone.

I agree with both you and muzzlr.

You need money to make money, so we work. If you have a clear path to early retirement, working is key. Problem is, people cons00m endlessly

[Anachron]

When OP talks about a “job” his frame of reference is a minimum wage menial labour gig with set hours and zero autonomy

Which to be fair would suck

That is because that is the only job his low socioeconomic peasant self would be able to get.

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[Anachron]

How are you going to be free with no money or survival skills?

I don't know how unemployment works, but I'm sure it won't allow you a decent home and any luxuries.

So you'll have freedom to do what? Stay in your house and play video games all day? You can't eat where you want, go where you want, buy what you want, etc..

Buddhist monks are more free than the NEET at home getting fat off of food stamps and welfare checks, and I don't think they even have wifi.

He has admitted that his in laws provide all the basic necessities that his daughter needs.

It it very easy to extol the virtues of not having a job while living under a bridge.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[eddiehaskell]

I agree with both you and muzzlr.

You need money to make money, so we work. If you have a clear path to early retirement, working is key. Problem is, people cons00m endlessly

i never worked a full time job. after college that was my last days of working on what i was told or answering to other people. freedom was my motivation. it has kept my soul pure.

[MikeLowrrrey]

i never worked a full time job. after college that was my last days of working on what i was told or answering to other people. freedom was my motivation. it has kept my soul pure.

I don't think it works that way for most people, but then what do I know if I never tried that route?

[Anachron]

i never worked a full time job. after college that was my last days of working on what i was told or answering to other people. freedom was my motivation. it has kept my soul pure.

It also kept you from being able to provide for your own family.

You "never having worked a full time job" has resulted in the mother of your daughter, who is not your wife, having to work full time.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[eddiehaskell]

I don't think it works that way for most people, but then what do I know if I never tried that route?

i'll admit it helps to start from as young an age as possible. while others were going out drinking, buying game systems, concerts, designer clothes, or whatever else -- i was examining the bigger picture and scheming my way out. delayed gratification seems to be a hard one in a chew ran society consumed with perceived status, keeping up, fitting in, consuming. i didn't know who was behind it at the time but i knew something was off.

[Muzzlrpress]

you've got to find a way to have money coming in without work. i found a way just laying on butt on the computer as a teen. made it a mission from then on to never have to sell myself/soul to anyone.

That requires Capital, skill, luck, time, intelligence, etc.. Unless it was gifted, you still had to make enough money and have enough income to get to that point, i.e. work.

[johnnydeep1]

I heard some people get to work from home and do like 2 hrs of work a day. Pretty much endless summer vacation.

[Anachron]

That requires Capital, skill, luck, time, intelligence, etc.. Unless it was gifted, you still had to make enough money and have enough income to get to that point, i.e. work.

Dont even bother, OP was exposed on multiple forums peddling the same BS stories.

[eddiehaskell]

That requires Capital, skill, luck, time, intelligence, etc.. Unless it was gifted, you still had to make enough money and have enough income to get to that point, i.e. work.

i started with not very much. timing and intelligence probably did play a factor, but ultimately i was willing to do what it took to not sell myself. God fearing parents that lived by dave ramsey principals decades before anyone knew his name probably helped.

[JackyChin]

A trust fund baby will never know true financial freedom (i.e. live without fear). Freedom is only enjoyed by those who earned it.

There's a good chapter in "The Millionaire Next Door" about this.

[eddiehaskell]

A trust fund baby will never know true financial freedom (i.e. live without fear). Freedom is only enjoyed by those who earned it.

There's a good chapter in "The Millionaire Next Door" about this.

i can see this...they know no other life than always having money. probably why most generational wealth is lost within 3 generations