Fat people that are there week after week for years and don't lose weight or worse again 120lb twinks that have been lifting for years and barely gain an once of muscle (quite a few miscers sprint to mind). How is this possible?
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12-22-2023, 03:40 PM #1
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12-22-2023, 03:50 PM #10
The majority of people I see in the gym do not push themselves. They may have another 1-2 reps in the tank but hang it up because they either don't want to ask for a spot or don't want to push themselves when it is uncomfortable. But working out is the easy part. The hard part is following a diet and that is why the majority of people fail to make progress.
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12-22-2023, 03:57 PM #15
They "workout", they don't train.
There is no planned progression, no specific goal they are working towards, with a plan on how to get there. They go to the gym, with a vague desire to "lose weight" or "gain muscle", and either do the exact same reps/sets/weights year in and year out or change things every week chasing "the pump" or "the burn".Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!
The only dangerous thing about an exercise is the person doing it.
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12-22-2023, 04:08 PM #19
Casual observations watching people over time.
1. They don't sweat
2. To long between sets
3. Low intensity able to catch breath easily
4. Short workouts with moderate weight.
5. Low volume
6. Infrequent attendance
7. Zero supplements
8. No cardioThere is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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12-22-2023, 04:09 PM #20
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12-22-2023, 04:20 PM #23
It's true. Hardly anyone who lifts looks like they lift.
It's because they do zero progressive overloading and have garbage diets. They make some initial noob gains, hit a plateau, and then get stuck there indefinitely.
It's brutal but no pain, no gain applies to every activity in life. It is incredibly easy to spend years dicking around with an instrument, language, drawing, and be hardly any better than you were six months in. You only ever just grow more comfortable at the level you're at.Physics crew
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12-22-2023, 04:28 PM #26
All this talk about not knowing how to train properly is cope. I've been doing the same routine and lifting the same weight for like a decade. The progress or lack of progress is 100% diet related. It's not training. You really don't need a perfect training program. If you get up there and lift some weights and hit different body parts more or less you'll be good from a training perspective.
You always see a bunch of try hards talking about no pain no gain, or gotta leave the gym drenched in sweat, or progressive overload blah blah blah..... all of that's bullsh*t. It's true you can't go up there like you're ready to relax on the beach doing nothing of course, but you can put in average effort training and be totally fine with making progress as long as you've mastered the diet aspect.
It's diet. That's really all there is to it."One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
-SoutheastBeast1
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12-22-2023, 04:37 PM #27
This is it. Not sure if this applies to roidcels but for naturals if you're not progressing on your keys lifts then you won't put on muscle. It's really that simple. People ignore the big picture of progression and focus on little details like 'oh it's not just about adding weight to the bar' and it's like fuk you it's not. If your bench goes from 1 plate to 3 plates while your form and ROM remains such that you have a good arch in your upper back and your elbows go below parallel with a wide grip, your chest will get bigger. There's simply no other way you can get that kind of true progression without putting on muscle.
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12-22-2023, 04:55 PM #28
For fat loss: They just don’t stick to a calorie deficit for long enough. Everyone’s gotta find what method of creating a deficit works best for them
For muscle gain: They don’t train close enough to failure. Most guys I see leave 2, 3, 4 or even 5+ reps in the tank. Training close to failure is the most important part of muscle gain followed by volume and then calorie surplus (although you can gain muscle still at maintenance or even in a deficit
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