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    Chokehold used to subdue aggressive subway passenger- how it should be done.

    An older video with a situation similar to Neely, where we see a passenger actually get physically aggressive and a fight seems imminent:




    Another passenger leaps up and puts the aggressor into a chokehold, which subdues him in seconds, but the key difference is that as soon as the subject is out, he releases the choke. Then he's easy to keep pinned to the ground until the police arrive.


    Now this passenger looks to be more aggressive than Neely and intent on starting a fight, but still, the chokehold wasn't used to literally kill the guy. It's only needed until he drops. No one hurt in the incident at all, except the ego of the thug.


    That's how it should be done. Begs the question of why didn't the marine handle Neely like this?
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    You are such an insufferable piece of chit.
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    Nope. What happened on that NYC subway is completely fine. That crackhead was a threat, and was neutralized. You cannot go around threatening peoples lives just because youre mad on a subway.

    Honestly? The person who neutralized that crackhead deserves a civic award. He removed trash.
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    But the guy in the OP video is an even bigger threat. He was intent on starting a fight. Yet the incident is defused as soon as he drops from the choke.


    So why didn't the marine release the chokehold on Neely once he was out?
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    Yep. Under the circumstances, I'd probably convict for manslaughter.
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    Originally Posted by Banderistan View Post
    Yep. Under the circumstances, I'd probably convict for manslaughter.
    What would Stalin do?
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysFocus View Post
    What would Stalin do?
    He would have had him shot or imprisoned for labor.
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    I'm pretty sure if OP was there, he would have smeared chit on the walls and windows of the subway they were riding in.
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    OP would have sucker punched the bum, and then probably steal what little he had......
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    OP would have sucker punched the bum, and then probably steal what little he had......

    I see people like this all the time on the train and subway. I ignore them, that's the sensible thing to do. If they get physically violent, you can apply a RNC but let go as soon as they drop, like the OP video which shows the proper way to do things.


    You, however, would see an angry black guy and dump a clip into him.
    Back off, Warchild.

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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    I see people like this all the time on the train and subway. I ignore them, that's the sensible thing to do. If they get physically violent, you can apply a RNC but let go as soon as they drop, like the OP video which shows the proper way to do things.


    You, however, would see an angry black guy and dump a clip into him.
    I would look at him with a bored expression, like something you see at a zoo.

    And don't you have a vehicle??? Are you that much of a bum you need to ride the train/subway?
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    Originally Posted by Banderistan View Post
    He would have had him shot or imprisoned for labor.
    Stalin wouldn't have had a prolific criminal with like 40+ convictions still out on the streets continuing to be a public nuisance.
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    Stalin wouldn't have had a prolific criminal with like 40+ convictions still out on the streets continuing to be a public nuisance.
    He would have thrown most criminals into the gulags after their first offense.
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    Great post. Reminds me of when I was a bouncer for the most dangerous biker bar in the country, it was tough work but they paid me $35,000 a night so I kept doing it. One night, 15 of the notorious 'Cuckaracha' gang came in and were downing shot after shot of tequila. Well, being a master of both the marital arts and with a highly honed perception, I knew what was coming and mentally prepared myself. Sure enough, all 15 Cuckarachas began busting up the place.

    Not on my watch.

    Using my triple black belt in BJJ and Wing Chun fighting, one by one I began beating these 300 pound bikers unconscious. Finally it was down to me, the Gang leader, his sergeant at arms and two top men. They surrounded me but they'd just watched me destroy 11 men in seconds, so they were afraid. I could smell their fear and began laughing. Everyone in the bar was silent, shaking in both awe and terror. At this point the drunked Cuckarachas charged me.

    Big mistake.

    Using both arms and my legs, I put all four in rear naked choke holds at once. Nobody has ever been able to successfully pull that move off in all of recorded history but I made it look easy. Then, using my mastery, one by one I put them all out -- but I did it the right way and nobody died. When you fight like I do, which is more animal than man, the hard part isn't winning a fight. No. That is the easy part, for the moment a fight starts when I am in it, it's over before it even begins. The hard part is me winning without killing anyone. Fortunately, as a master of Wing Chun and BJJ, boxing, Tai Chi, thumb wrestling, Karate, kick boxing, and Mui Tai, I am able to use force with absolute precision.

    That night when it was time to get paid, the bar owner came to me, got on his knees and bowed and he held up my cheque. It was for double the usual $35,000. I took it and tore it to pieces. I looked him right in the eyes and told him: I don't do this for the money. I do it because I long for challenge. He sat there stunned and could not say a word.

    That was the last night I bounced. It was just too damn easy for me. I needed a greater challenge to hone my skills and 15 bikers at once was child's play, not even worth my time at that point.
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    Originally Posted by USMARINE8152 View Post
    I'm pretty sure if OP was there, he would have smeared chit on the walls and windows of the subway they were riding in.
    OP would watch his tranny g/f get raped by a liberal ****go7 on the train and cheer him on
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    An older video with a situation similar to Neely, where we see a passenger actually get physically aggressive and a fight seems imminent:




    Another passenger leaps up and puts the aggressor into a chokehold, which subdues him in seconds, but the key difference is that as soon as the subject is out, he releases the choke. Then he's easy to keep pinned to the ground until the police arrive.


    Now this passenger looks to be more aggressive than Neely and intent on starting a fight, but still, the chokehold wasn't used to literally kill the guy. It's only needed until he drops. No one hurt in the incident at all, except the ego of the thug.


    That's how it should be done. Begs the question of why didn't the marine handle Neely like this?
    That video was from 7yrs ago

    Liberals would still press charges against that guy for assault although given that the guy he choked out was white they probably wouldn't care too much

    The marine is getting charged purely become the scumbag he choked was black. If it had been the other way round he wouldn't have been charged
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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    OP would watch his tranny g/f get raped by a liberal ****go7 on the train and cheer him on
    Cringe.

    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    That video was from 7yrs ago

    Liberals would still press charges against that guy for assault although given that the guy he choked out was white they probably wouldn't care too much

    The marine is getting charged purely become the scumbag he choked was black. If it had been the other way round he wouldn't have been charged

    And no. No one would reasonably pursue charges of assault against that guy because the thug was about to start a fight, and all he did was put him out and immediately release the choke, after which he was fairly easy to subdue. You don't just immediately spring back up after a choke, either. It does leave you pretty out of it for a short while. It's a great way to take the fight out of someone.


    No one is charging the marine because Neely was black. He's getting charged because he let his MMA masturbatory fantasy get the better of him, and murdered a guy by holding him in a RNC long after he was put out. Like I said, you can't accidentally bloodchoke someone to death. There's a noticeable point where your subject drops all resistance and you're knowingly holding them in the choke after unconsciousness.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Great post. Reminds me of when I was a bouncer for the most dangerous biker bar in the country, it was tough work but they paid me $35,000 a night so I kept doing it. One night, 15 of the notorious 'Cuckaracha' gang came in and were downing shot after shot of tequila. Well, being a master of both the marital arts and with a highly honed perception, I knew what was coming and mentally prepared myself. Sure enough, all 15 Cuckarachas began busting up the place.

    Not on my watch.

    Using my triple black belt in BJJ and Wing Chun fighting, one by one I began beating these 300 pound bikers unconscious. Finally it was down to me, the Gang leader, his sergeant at arms and two top men. They surrounded me but they'd just watched me destroy 11 men in seconds, so they were afraid. I could smell their fear and began laughing. Everyone in the bar was silent, shaking in both awe and terror. At this point the drunked Cuckarachas charged me.

    Big mistake.

    Using both arms and my legs, I put all four in rear naked choke holds at once. Nobody has ever been able to successfully pull that move off in all of recorded history but I made it look easy. Then, using my mastery, one by one I put them all out -- but I did it the right way and nobody died. When you fight like I do, which is more animal than man, the hard part isn't winning a fight. No. That is the easy part, for the moment a fight starts when I am in it, it's over before it even begins. The hard part is me winning without killing anyone. Fortunately, as a master of Wing Chun and BJJ, boxing, Tai Chi, thumb wrestling, Karate, kick boxing, and Mui Tai, I am able to use force with absolute precision.

    That night when it was time to get paid, the bar owner came to me, got on his knees and bowed and he held up my cheque. It was for double the usual $35,000. I took it and tore it to pieces. I looked him right in the eyes and told him: I don't do this for the money. I do it because I long for challenge. He sat there stunned and could not say a word.

    That was the last night I bounced. It was just too damn easy for me. I needed a greater challenge to hone my skills and 15 bikers at once was child's play, not even worth my time at that point.
    Then he went home, got pegged in the ass by a ladyboy, made a mess, and wiped the mess all over his shower walls.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Great post. Reminds me of when I was a bouncer for the most dangerous biker bar in the country, it was tough work but they paid me $35,000 a night so I kept doing it. One night, 15 of the notorious 'Cuckaracha' gang came in and were downing shot after shot of tequila. Well, being a master of both the marital arts and with a highly honed perception, I knew what was coming and mentally prepared myself. Sure enough, all 15 Cuckarachas began busting up the place.

    Not on my watch.

    Using my triple black belt in BJJ and Wing Chun fighting, one by one I began beating these 300 pound bikers unconscious. Finally it was down to me, the Gang leader, his sergeant at arms and two top men. They surrounded me but they'd just watched me destroy 11 men in seconds, so they were afraid. I could smell their fear and began laughing. Everyone in the bar was silent, shaking in both awe and terror. At this point the drunked Cuckarachas charged me.

    Big mistake.

    Using both arms and my legs, I put all four in rear naked choke holds at once. Nobody has ever been able to successfully pull that move off in all of recorded history but I made it look easy. Then, using my mastery, one by one I put them all out -- but I did it the right way and nobody died. When you fight like I do, which is more animal than man, the hard part isn't winning a fight. No. That is the easy part, for the moment a fight starts when I am in it, it's over before it even begins. The hard part is me winning without killing anyone. Fortunately, as a master of Wing Chun and BJJ, boxing, Tai Chi, thumb wrestling, Karate, kick boxing, and Mui Tai, I am able to use force with absolute precision.

    That night when it was time to get paid, the bar owner came to me, got on his knees and bowed and he held up my cheque. It was for double the usual $35,000. I took it and tore it to pieces. I looked him right in the eyes and told him: I don't do this for the money. I do it because I long for challenge. He sat there stunned and could not say a word.

    That was the last night I bounced. It was just too damn easy for me. I needed a greater challenge to hone my skills and 15 bikers at once was child's play, not even worth my time at that point.
    This story is as believable as anything Fraudy posts.

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    Except I never claimed to be some martial arts master or even necessarily a good fighter. Of course, that is overlooked in favour of getting dopamine hits by typing the word "fraud" on the internet.


    Now the PhD fraud thing has gone down in flames, as LogicalLifts got the transcript, you're basically out of accusations now.
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Except I never claimed to be some martial arts master or even necessarily a good fighter. Of course, that is overlooked in favour of getting dopamine hits by typing the word "fraud" on the internet.


    Now the PhD fraud thing has gone down in flames, as LogicalLifts got the transcript, you're basically out of accusations now.
    You can claim that as much as you want, but no one believes it. And unless you post it up yourself, it will stay that way forever.

    Fraud.
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    LogicalLifts himself has verified that I emailed him with the images attached. And I've repeatedly said that I'll post the transcript here once the people on my list make the donations.


    So as of now, you are quite literally refusing to see it and still making fraud accusations. That's the epitome of mental retardation.
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    Reminder: LL has never once verified Bodhy's transcripts and Bodhy made up silly stuff about a list of people, one of whom is presumed dead, others just inserted at random, they must all first donate $50 before he would verify it himself as he initially promised long ago.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Reminder: LL has never once verified Bodhy's transcripts and Bodhy made up silly stuff about a list of people, one of whom is presumed dead, others just inserted at random, they must all first donate $50 before he would verify it himself as he initially promised long ago.

    A slight correction: LogicalLifts quite explicitly stated he received emails from me with images attached. He just never opened those attached images, but that's not on me. He did get what was promised.

    And that list isn't arbitrary. I explicitly said otherwise. Everyone on it has accused me of frauding or lying over the affair, so that is why they made the list. I have absolutely no idea about one of these people on the list being "presumed dead".


    I'm not sure if that's serious or this is just made up to get me to start whittling down the people on the list.
    Back off, Warchild.

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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Except I never claimed to be some martial arts master or even necessarily a good fighter. Of course, that is overlooked in favour of getting dopamine hits by typing the word "fraud" on the internet.
    You claimed to have been a security guard at a bar
    You claimed if you went to the misc nightclub you would be fighting ten people
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    He would have had him shot or imprisoned for labor.
    You think Stalin would have let a drugged out lunatic walk the streets in the first place?
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    I'm pretty sure if OP was there, he would have smeared chit on the walls and windows of the subway they were riding in.
    LOL, top comment of the day.
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