Could someone who told me these vaccines were safe and effective explain to me how now they are walking that back and not allowing at least one of these safe and effective vaccines to many people?
Why is that? How is that possible? I was told they were tested and it was not even a debate -- they were safe and they were effective, period. No discussion and I was written off as a crazed lunatic CTard for even being skeptical.
NYPat? Where are you?
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05-06-2022, 06:47 AM #1
FDA Limits Johnson & Johnson Vaccine To People 18+ And HEALTHY
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
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J&J probably doesn't have enough government-connected board members and/or didn't pay enough kickbacks to The Big Guy.
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This isn't that new. They had paused J&J usage a while ago. Now its allowed with warnings and recommendations.
"Safe" is never 100% safe. Flying is "safe". 3 out of a million people can have reactions and 15% of those could die. "Safe" but not really.
But it wasn't even really this vaccine that people didn't like. It was the mRNA ones and those seem "safer"Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
"Scientists say" ?
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"Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
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Worth mentioning that this is about the adenovirus vector vaccine and not the mRNA vaccines. Which the pharmacovigilance data shows are overwhelmingly safe and effective in curtailing Covid, with the vast majority of side effects are mild and associated with mere reactogenecity.
The article I'm reading also says that this is an exemption to use the J & J shot which is rooted in nothing beyond "personal concerns", which in other words, are the bereft-of-evidence conspiracy theories of the Chicken Nugget Brigade. What I'm reading is telling me the FDA have made a provision for the nugget gobblers despite the fact their view is not rooted in science or evidence, or reality.
That's really concessionary of them.Back off, Warchild.
Seriously.
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The irony being that the mRNA vaccines cause more blood clots, significantly more than J&J. But it's where the rare blood clots can occur in the body from J&J that have caused caution. I remember last year the rare brain blood clots from J&J were nearly all in young adult women, most on birth control. So a subset of the population, not a reason to have an across the board warning. Part of the reason for the new warning is we're at endemic phase.
65 thousand reported infections per day means over 500 thousand infections since the subvariants of Omicron are all more contagious than any common cold. And yet a bit over 300 "Covid-related" deaths, with 5 out of 6 of deaths happening in the elderly, 2 out of 6 deaths happening in people over age 85. All the more reason to question how many deaths are truly Covid related.Light weight! Light weight baby!!!!
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If they continue to stone wall the NovaVax, wood still get the J&J over the other two. They only threw J&J under the bus because either (A) Not enough kick backs + connections (B) They are trying to drive people towards the other two. And/or (C) They feel comfortable finally admitting one of the major potential side effects as getting the J&J is already almost impossible and they don't have to worry about backlash, but can seem "transparent".
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Guess the Big Guy didn't get his cut
Miscers on peedophile porn:
x-trainer ben - "defending the right to own( where have we heard this b4?) is not tacit approval, it is simply defending the right......to own.
navid93 - "If these books promote peedophilia then they should be removed, if there’s just a peedo scene I think it’s fine
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Look for June.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/29/fda-...s-in-june.html
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Also worth mentioning is how, for those who have never heard of it before, copro****ia, or the practice of eating your own or another person's feces, may give new meaning to the term "sexual appetite." Copro****ia is often a component of the wider term coprophilia, which refers to getting sexual pleasure from the excretion of human feces, whether it's from its smell, touch, taste or sight. Scat is another term for feces, and scat sex or scat play refers to using scat in sexual activities. Although playing with someone's scat is generally regarded as safe if proper protection is used (think latex gloves, plastic wrap, dental dams, washing with soap before and after sex), eating someone else's scat can greatly increase one's risk of parasitic, bacterial, and viral infections. This does not mean that eating feces is necessarily poisonous, but it can make you very sick.
Shigella, campylobacter, salmonella, and E. coli are four bacteria commonly present in fecal matter. These bacteria, along with parasites like amoebas and giardia, can cause severe diarrhea, abdominal pain and cramping, bloody stools, fever, nausea and vomiting. The viruses hepatitis A and E may also be transmitted through contact with fecal matter. There are very few cases of hepatitis E in the United States, but almost half a million people contract hepatitis A every year (though not always through scat play). Symptoms of hepatitis A are very similar to the ones listed for the bacterial infections, and may also include jaundice, itchiness in parts of the body, and may cause enzymes in the liver to reach critical levels in the body. Relapses may also occur six months to a year after the first symptoms show up. All three types of infections can occur even without eating any scat. If one's mouth, nose, or any orifice or open cuts or sores touches something that has had contact with the feces (such as kissing an unwashed hand after using the bathroom), then it is possible for s/he to become infected as well.
The best way to prevent infection is to make sure there is no direct oral/orifice and fecal contact. This might mean refraining from licking of the anus (known as rimming) or using a dam or plastic wrap to cover the anus, and making sure the any objects that are inserted in the anus are kept away from the mouth until it has been properly cleaned. Using condoms and dental dams can also help to prevent transmission. It's wise for women to take extra precaution when coming into contact with scat, because urinary tract and vaginal infections are commonly caused by the bacteria present in fecal matter. The idea of experimenting with scat play might heat things up in the bedroom (or bathroom, or anywhere else you choose), but it's always a good idea to consider the risks of a behavior before acting upon (or getting action from) it."Do you think SHE actually felt like that was a sexual thing he was doing? She's like 6. Only an actual p3do would think that she thought he was groping her, too."
"Not that it's impossible to touch a minor inappropriately, but it is true that a 6 year old girl will not recognize someone putting a hand on their chest as groping, whether it is inappropriate or not."
- Jayarbie
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=182007113&p=1671975503#post1671975503
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