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    Pfizer at it again, likely vaccine death

    "Three days later, small spots began to appear on his feet and hands and he went to the emergency room at Mount Sinai, where he has worked in private practice for 15 years, according to his personal website."

    For two weeks, she said, doctors tried to raise Michael’s platelet count. “Experts from all over the country were involved in his care,” she wrote. “No matter what they did, the platelets count refused to go up.”

    She wrote that Michael was “conscious and energetic” through the process. But just days before a last resort surgery, he suffered a stroke and died.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/coronav...2py-story.html



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    Originally Posted by KhumatMibra View Post
    No vaccine crew checking in
    Have mine scheduled Wednesday for the Moderna, that study was at least well-done. But just may no-show it.
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    JFL @ even CONSIDERING the vaccine if you're under 50

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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    JFL @ even CONSIDERING the vaccine if you're under 50

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    guy was a doctor too, what a shame.
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    I'll take the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when it's available
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    Originally Posted by QuentinSutpen View Post
    I'll take the Johnson & Johnson vaccine when it's available
    IDk, but I do know Pfizer does **** research
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    Originally Posted by germsbad View Post
    vaccines are a scam. they have never worked.
    Idiot anti vaxx people like this are trying to lump themselves into the cautious of a new, short term tested crew and we shouldn't let them.
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    +1 covid death
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    Originally Posted by Kawhilights View Post
    Idiot anti vaxx people like this are trying to lump themselves into the cautious of a new, short term tested crew and we shouldn't let them.
    wtf, is that a sentence
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    Originally Posted by Roldz View Post
    +1 covid death
    of course pfizer has already released a statement, basically, "there's no way it was the vacccine!!!!"
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    Got the Pfizer and moderna, looking to get the astra for max protection
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    Originally Posted by StyleGent View Post
    of course pfizer has already released a statement, basically, "there's no way it was the vacccine!!!!"
    CNN: "Vaccine death" fact check
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    Originally Posted by blazenbb View Post
    Got the Pfizer and moderna, looking to get the astra for max protection
    Yeah I read Astra is the one to go!
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    no enough volunterries
    and not enough period
    to make a clear rule for
    this vac, hence russiky and chiniesky
    vac's are the virus it self, compared to the RNA us vac
    Negging "Firesofass" crew on sight.
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    Originally Posted by Kiop View Post
    no enough volunterries
    and not enough period
    to make a clear rule for
    this vac, hence russiky and chiniesky
    vac's are the virus it self, compared to the RNA us vac

    skynet is the virus I still remember how bill gates and his crew of dorks actually created a computer virus in order to sell people anti virus software.
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    skynet is the virus I still remember how bill gates and his crew of dorks actually created a computer virus in order to sell people anti virus software.
    Negging "Firesofass" crew on sight.
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    He had clotting issues.

    This post is meant to be an informative post on covid 19 to combat disinformation.

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    So I thought I'd help you fukers out.

    Here is an excellent introductory course on COVID-19.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...jjO2YFu9G8Iv-U

    This is an MIT open course and has been constructed to inform the scientifically curious about covid. It does not require much in the way of prerequisites aside from some basic introductory biology. I strongly suggest you all watch this.

    If you are curious for more technical details about biology, I recommend downloading "Molecular Biology of the Cell" by Alberts et al, and Janeway's "Immunobiology".
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    Here are a couple of videos on modeling the pandemic:





    These videos assume a basic understanding of differential calculus.
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    Here is a lecture on how the pfizer vaccine works:

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    Here is a discussion of common questions about the covid vaccines.

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    Here is an excellent set of videos on statistical hypothesis testing. This will allow you to make sense of P values, understand the role of sample size, and make statistical inferences about data, allowing you to understand the reported results of the vaccine studies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTeM...BjDH67&index=1
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    Here is the full study on the Pfizer vaccine trial.

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
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    Here are some papers looking at the potential evolutionary origins of covid 19.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-0771-4
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    Sensitivity vs specificity explained here:

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    What you can do if you or someone in your household tests positive for covid:

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    Here is a video on the detailed structure of covid.

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    Here is the CDC site collecting epidemiological data on covid.

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ilytrendscases
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    Here is the JHU coronavirus resource center with helpful information about covid.

    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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    This debunks the talking point that Koch's postulates aren't satisfied by covid.
    https://www.auckland.ac.nz/en/news/2...bit-holes.html
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    Regarding long term effects of the vaccine, the mrna is cleared very quickly and the remaining spike protein fragments are also destroyed quickly. There really is no reason for there to be any long term effect. Aside from antibodies to the spike protein, there is no trace of the vaccine left after a few weeks (really a few days).

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...-vaccines/amp/

    Prof Fuller is a prof of microbiology at UW and an expert on RNA vaccines.
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    Here is a video discussing some of the theory behind the vaccines.

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    Here is another video about the vaccines

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    JHSPH site with resources about covid and expert advice.

    https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/
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    NIAID Director Dr. Anthony Fauci's update on the current (as of Jan 3) covid situation:

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    The impact of misinformation on covid response:

    https://www.brookings.edu/research/h...and-behaviors/
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    Here is a nature study that indicated how the majority of the transmission of covid 19 occurs in practice, informing policymakers which businesses ought to have restrictions.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2923-3
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    Here is a video from Dr. Angela Branche of University of Rochester on the COVID vaccines and their safety.

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    A new study on covid stated: The SARS-CoV-2 disease burden may be much larger than reported COVID-19 cases owing to underreporting. Even after adjusting for underreporting, a substantial gap remains between the estimated proportion of the population infected and the proportion infected required to reach herd immunity. Additional seroprevalence surveys are needed to monitor the pandemic, including after the introduction of safe and efficacious vaccines.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...sease%20burden.
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    How the AstraZeneca Vaccine (UK) works:

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    CDC science library, which tells you what peer reviewed science research is informing the policies and practices of the CDC:

    https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/...Date%3A%3Adesc
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    He had clotting issues.

    This post is meant to be an informative post on covid 19 to combat disinformation.
    Until you actually formulate a data driven response to my inquiry you're on ignore, take your spam elswhere and politely fuk off

    WINCEL hates science
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    “It’s just a spike protein bro”
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    Originally Posted by MaDFroG88 View Post
    Yeah I read Astra is the one to go!

    Astra in gray joggers mate!
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    Originally Posted by BeginnerGainz View Post
    “It’s just a spike protein bro”
    Bro no way, he had pre-existing clotting disorders!!!

    brb perfectly healthy before
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    There will be people that react badly and or die from the vaccine, that is a given. The idea is the death rate of the vaccine will be far lower than the virus, that's why they tell you don't get the vaccine if you are prone to severe allergic reactions

    Im of the opinion that the virus doesn't kill healthy people, if you are healthy you shouldn't get the vaccine, you might even be better off just straight up injecting the virus
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    Originally Posted by StyleGent View Post
    Bro no way, he had pre-existing clotting disorders!!!

    brb perfectly healthy before
    He had ITP. He was not "perfectly healthy". He died of internal bleeding that may or may not have been related to the vaccine. It is unlikely to have been related to the vaccine and not show up in the large trial done. Some people will die shortly after taking the vaccine. You cannot just assume those deaths were due to the vaccine.

    If you have clotting issues like him, you might want to avoid the vaccine, but there is actually no solid evidence on this, and it's not even clear the risk of the vaccine would still be elevated enough to not take it.
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    There will be people that react badly and or die from the vaccine, that is a given. The idea is the death rate of the vaccine will be far lower than the virus, that's why they tell you don't get the vaccine if you are prone to severe allergic reactions

    Im of the opinion that the virus doesn't kill healthy people, if you are healthy you shouldn't get the vaccine, you might even be better off just straight up injecting the virus
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    Yeah I read Astra is the one to go!
    Im comin for Dat tHiCc Astra boyo. Gon get 3 shots for ultimate gainz
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    Im comin for Dat tHiCc Astra boyo. Gon get 3 shots for ultimate gainz
    Johnson and Johnson's is gonna be a single use one. Probably easier to get too because it is more stable at higher temps.
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    Things will happen guaranteed when you're deploying a vaccine on this scale, things already happen every year with existing vaccines

    COVID-19 likely has an overall survival rate around 99.5%, the vaccine likely has a survival rate of 99.9999999995%. Do the math yo
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    Johnson and Johnson's is gonna be a single use one. Probably easier to get too because it is more stable at higher temps.
    Ya, but it dont sound like ass. Anything that sounds like ass has to be top notch. Now if it was named Havocc Astra...then I mite have to reconsider my stance
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    He had ITP. He was not "perfectly healthy". He died of internal bleeding that may or may not have been related to the vaccine. It is unlikely to have been related to the vaccine and not show up in the large trial done. Some people will die shortly after taking the vaccine. You cannot just assume those deaths were due to the vaccine.

    If you have clotting issues like him, you might want to avoid the vaccine, but there is actually no solid evidence on this, and it's not even clear the risk of the vaccine would still be elevated enough to not take it.
    *** This post is flagged for misinformation

    It is well-established ITP (immune, not idiopathic is what this man had) is associated with viruses, like COV-19 which there are published case studies already.

    "Viral infections are associated with ITP.4 Here we describe the first case series of three patients with COVID‐19‐associated ITP."

    you legit need to stick to physics
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    Originally Posted by wincel View Post
    He had ITP. He was not "perfectly healthy". He died of internal bleeding that may or may not have been related to the vaccine. It is unlikely to have been related to the vaccine and not show up in the large trial done. Some people will die shortly after taking the vaccine. You cannot just assume those deaths were due to the vaccine.

    If you have clotting issues like him, you might want to avoid the vaccine, but there is actually no solid evidence on this, and it's not even clear the risk of the vaccine would still be elevated enough to not take it.
    Just like you can’t assume people who died WITH Covid died OF Covid.
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