Advanced bodybuilders of the misc. Do you do pullups/dips etc?

**Toker095** · 12-31-2020, 02:23 PM

Is it still part of your routine / warmup?

How often do you do them per week.
How many sets/reps

I do it every day before i start my workout on what I'm focusing on that day.
Eg, 4sets/Amrap parallel dips and then hit chest.

4 sets/amrap pull up and then hit back

Repeat through out the week.

My first set i can do 21 pull-ups and 12 parallel dips. The rest 3 just push it out to get a good warm up i guess.

I ask because I spend a good 15 mins on these 4 sets which could be saved .

So how important is it in muscle building/defining. Does it also depend if you're bulking/cutting

Cheers

**GordonXXX** · 12-31-2020, 02:24 PM

i do 3x12 pull-ups every day.

**GlassMoon** · 12-31-2020, 02:27 PM

Not advanced bb by any means but pull-ups (weighted) are the goat exercise IMO. Exercise physiology would probably beg to differ but I love them

Dips feel like my shoulder is gonna explode

**CougarP01** · 12-31-2020, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by GlassMoon

Not advanced bb by any means but pull-ups (weighted) are the goat exercise IMO. Exercise physiology would probably beg to differ but I love them

Dips feel like my shoulder is gonna explode

This. I'm definitely not anywhere near advanced at all, but anyone I see pulling massive extra weight on pullups looks like an absolute unit. Love doing em.

**Toker095** · 12-31-2020, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by GlassMoon

Not advanced bb by any means but pull-ups (weighted) are the goat exercise IMO. Exercise physiology would probably beg to differ but I love them

Dips feel like my shoulder is gonna explode

You're pretty cut , could be bigger .

Why are ur shoulders hurting, it shouldn't at your bf%, it's the GOAT chest and arms. Trying warming up your shoulders and especially scapula and just push thru the dips. Gives you that sexy upper chest pop as well

Yes pull-ups from a dead hang is always a staple

Originally Posted by GordonXXX

i do 3x12 pull-ups every day.

This makes me think of doing 3 sets than 4.

But your physique credentials are meh

**MrQuint** · 12-31-2020, 02:32 PM

Also not advanced but always had both in my routines (when the gym was open). Home gym now and haven’t added those in yet.

**GordonXXX** · 12-31-2020, 02:37 PM

i don't consider myself advanced. i'm just a 51 year old Autist trying to stay fit and healthy -

Workout

Daily - 7 Days/Week

1. Flat Bench Dumbbell Press - 50s - 3x12
2. Standing Alternating Dumbbell Curls - 25s - 3x12
3. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flyes - 50s - 3x12
4. Pull-Ups - 3x12
5. Captain's Chair Knee Raises - 3x12
6. Stairmill - Level 7 - 7.5 Minutes
7. Treadmill - 15 Incline - 3.5 mph - 7.5 Minutes

**SwagMorris** · 12-31-2020, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Toker095

Why are ur shoulders hurting, it shouldn't at your bf%

Wtf did I just read?

**bfdehewdbyywhn** · 12-31-2020, 02:43 PM

30-50 every other day. and 100+ dips

**Plateauplower** · 12-31-2020, 02:44 PM

Yes both are a staple IMO. I do them on my “light day” whether adding weight to them or not. Usually 5 sets each (40-60 reps total) depending on if loading them or not.

**ayyy** · 12-31-2020, 02:46 PM

nothing wrong with either, I cant do dips cause my shoulders arent about that life and I just dont like pull ups but thats arguably the most classic tried and true warm up movements you can come up with

however i wouldnt be doing either to failure from the jump just because you're gonna tax your tris more than your chest on dips and arms and teres more than the rest of your back with pull ups

**MatthewChav** · 12-31-2020, 02:52 PM

Pull-up and Press-up's yeah I do OP yeah!

**Techriding101** · 12-31-2020, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by verymuchalpha

Problem with pullups is that 99% of bodybuilders half rep them

Pullups, dips and pushups are the most cheated exercises out there

If your elbows don’t lock at the bottom and your chin doesn’t go above the bar on top, you’re doing it wrong

lol false, at a certain point you are just stressing joints. You want to descend until your shoulders want to pull out of position.

**RawkRawk** · 12-31-2020, 02:56 PM

I'd say my physique is better than most and weighted pull-ups are a staple for my back. Proper form is absolute key though and even adding 20lbs on your back can change out significantly. I always start my back days with weighted pull-ups. Usually 45lbs and hit 8-10 x4. Dips are also solid but I feel not as good as pull-ups. May just be my anatomy or response to them but I felt like pull-ups had more carry over in terms of strength and physique. Not saying dips are bad by any means, still do them frequently.

**Toker095** · 12-31-2020, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by bfdehewdbyywhn

30-50 every other day. and 100+ dips

You should be a fitness influencer srs

Originally Posted by ayyy

nothing wrong with either, I cant do dips cause my shoulders arent about that life and I just dont like pull ups but thats arguably the most classic tried and true warm up movements you can come up with

however i wouldnt be doing either to failure from the jump just because you're gonna tax your tris more than your chest on dips and arms and teres more than the rest of your back with pull ups

Good for u, u seem pretty defined for not doing either of it. Cardio routine?

Originally Posted by RawkRawk

I'd say my physique is better than most and weighted pull-ups are a staple for my back. Proper form is absolute key though and even adding 20lbs on your back can change out significantly. I always start my back days with weighted pull-ups. Usually 45lbs and hit 8-10 x4. Dips are also solid but I feel not as good as pull-ups. May just be my anatomy or response to them but I felt like pull-ups had more carry over in terms of strength and physique. Not saying dips are bad by any means, still do them frequently.

Describe proper form

Originally Posted by verymuchalpha

Lol cope

I bet you’re one of those *******s who claim they can do 30 pullups or some chit

If your arms don’t straighten and chin doesn’t go above bar, then you’re doing ZERO

I certainly dead hang but I doubt anyone built guy with bulging muscles goes chin above bar. Doesn't mean the lat hasn't fully engaged

**Toker095** · 12-31-2020, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by SwagMorris

Wtf did I just read?

Normally it's fat people or someone with pre-existing conditions, who cant retract their scapula fully.

He seems healthy so he can push himself

**lightsarefallin** · 12-31-2020, 03:06 PM

Weighted pullups and all variations of. I'd do dips if I had the bars. Weighted dips were a great chest exercise.

**RawkRawk** · 12-31-2020, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Toker095

Describe proper form

May sound simple, but engaging lats and rhomboids is the biggest key. It's real easy to just swing yourself or pull in any way possible to get your chin above the bar without engaging properly. I prefer to lean back slightly and focus more on bringing my upper chest to the bar rather than chin over, makes sense to me but idk about you. I also prefer to stop right before dead hang so my muscles are constantly engaged. That's personally how I do them. It may not be the most optimal but I've found it works for me. It goes without saying, but it's better to go bodyweight or real light on extra weight you add in order to do them properly.

**Samraiwise** · 01-01-2021, 02:33 AM

Simply love Weighted Chin-ups and will try till I die.

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2020/12/4 (Fri) 95min

Bench Press
110 lbs (50kg) x 12
132 lbs (60kg) x 10
154 lbs (70kg) x 8
176 lbs (80kg) x 7
187 lbs (85kg) x 6
201 lbs (91kg) x 5
214 lbs (97kg) x 1
218 lbs (99kg) x 1
223 lbs (101kg) x 1
225 lbs (102kg) x 1
227 lbs (103kg) x 1
227 lbs (103kg) x 1
225 lbs (102kg) x 1
225 lbs (102kg) x 1
223 lbs (101kg) x 1
218 lbs (99kg) x 2
187 lbs (85kg) x 7 *bottom-half partial
Total Reps 66

Weighted Chin up
BW (0kg) x 10
11 lbs (5kg) x 10
22 lbs (10kg) x 10
33 lbs (15kg) x 10
44 lbs (20kg) x 10
55 lbs (25kg) x 10
66 lbs (30kg) x 10
77 lbs (35kg) x 8
88 lbs (40kg) x 5
88 lbs (40kg) x 5
77 lbs (35kg) x 8
66 lbs (30kg) x 10
Total Reps 106

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2020/12/7 (Mon) 88min

Bench Press
110 lbs (50kg) x 12
132 lbs (60kg) x 10
154 lbs (70kg) x 8
176 lbs (80kg) x 7
190 lbs (86kg) x 6
203 lbs (92kg) x 5
216 lbs (98kg) x 1
220 lbs (100kg) x 1
223 lbs (101kg) x 1
225 lbs (102kg) x 1
227 lbs (103kg) x 1
227 lbs (103kg) x 1
227 lbs (103kg) x 1
225 lbs (102kg) x 1
220 lbs (100kg) x 1
187 lbs (85kg) x 6
Total Reps 63

Weighted Chin up
BW (0kg) x 10
11 lbs (5kg) x 10
22 lbs (10kg) x 10
33 lbs (15kg) x 10
44 lbs (20kg) x 10
55 lbs (25kg) x 10
66 lbs (30kg) x 10
77 lbs (35kg) x 6
88 lbs (40kg) x 5
88 lbs (40kg) x 5
77 lbs (35kg) x 8
66 lbs (30kg) x 10
Total Reps 104

...... to be continued.

Spoiler!

**ChangeOfStyle** · 01-01-2021, 02:34 AM

I do about 9-12 pullups for 3 sets at the start of my PULL workout and alternate between weighted dips on my push workouts straight after benching

remember though, if you're not going all the way down on your pullups then you're not even getting one rep out of it

**taskmob** · 01-01-2021, 02:45 AM

Dips are a garbage exercise that puts your shoulder in a position it shouldn't be in. When I see anyone do dips especially with weights, I just phucking cringe. Your better off doing pushups or benching. Pullups however are the GOAT back building exercise. I've rarely ever see anyone do weighted pullups.

**MatthewChav** · 01-01-2021, 02:57 AM

Gotta do um as par my Sports Science Degree Course at Uni!!

**Toker095** · 01-01-2021, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by taskmob

Dips are a garbage exercise that puts your shoulder in a position it shouldn't be in. When I see anyone do dips especially with weights, I just phucking cringe. Your better off doing pushups or benching. Pullups however are the GOAT back building exercise. I've rarely ever see anyone do weighted pullups.

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**Samraiwise** · 01-01-2021, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by taskmob

Dips are a garbage exercise that puts your shoulder in a position it shouldn't be in. When I see anyone do dips especially with weights, I just phucking cringe. Your better off doing pushups or benching. Pullups however are the GOAT back building exercise. I've rarely ever see anyone do weighted pullups.

Something which doesn't work for you might work for others and it happens quite often.

Only thing you should have to pointed out is it may put some extra stresses on one's shoulders.

Dips and weighted dips are great exercises but only if your shoulder joints are flexible
and their range of motion is wide enough.

BTW, I loved heavy weighted dips but I had to pick one, between BP and Dips and I made a good choice which works quite well so far.

**Ironface** · 01-01-2021, 03:04 AM

They’re great.

Preferably weighted, but even bodyweight pull-ups and dips are a great body composition check.

Can’t be a fat fuk and knock out 15 pull-ups/30 dips.

Btw not everyone is anatomically built for dips. If you get sharp pain in your sternum, stop doing them (srs)

**Toker095** · 01-01-2021, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewChav

Gotta do um as par my Sports Science Degree Course at Uni!!

What uni

**2020Wellness** · 01-01-2021, 03:25 AM

Yes to both each week. I hit dips, chin-ups, and pull-ups every week.

Sets/reps are periodized on a three week rotation; high, medium, low.

2 or 3 x 15-20
3 or 4 x 10
4 or 5 x 4-6

Load varies accordingly and full ROM is always used.

**Toker095** · 01-01-2021, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by 2020Wellness

Yes to both each week. I hit dips, chin-ups, and pull-ups every week.

Sets/reps are periodized on a three week rotation; high, medium, low.

2 or 3 x 15-20
3 or 4 x 10
4 or 5 x 4-6

Load varies accordingly and full ROM is always used.

Das it mane

**Schnitzl** · 01-01-2021, 03:42 AM

Pull-ups with neutral grip full ROM on back days. I'm 270lbs so can only do about 10 pull-ups total so instead do 4x7. First set is always a bit painful to get all the stabilisers working but the next three have no issues and back days slap different when you've warmed them up with some calisthenics

**Polaris** · 01-01-2021, 03:48 AM

Pull ups - Yes, usually multiple times a week.

Dips - Not really, they tend to beat up my shoulders so I generally avoid them. If I decreased the ROM on them then maybe I'd be okay, but I don't like doing that.

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