Should everyone actually have the right to vote? srs

[MetroBrah]

Or should you have to take an IQ test and a psych evaluation before you can apply?


Think about the average joe blow you know personally. Those of average intelligence. Does the regular person typically know anything about macro economics, foreign affairs, politics, the justice system etc...or how certain policies effect any of these things? just lol

Normies on all sides are typically brainlets that do whatever feels good at the time and we even allow people with <90 IQ to vote

[AlwaysFocus]

Should be a land owner or pay taxes to vote, or rich/retired/self sufficient.

[nothingshocking]

No, most people are not bright enough to know what is best for them.

srs

I don't have a better alternative to offer than democracy though.

[hoganrulz]

Everyone should be allowed to vote otherwise you're essentially advocating for a two tier society while wall street jams you in the ass with the same ambition that sees you cursing God when your credit card statement comes in.

[JoshSP1985]

The biggest problem with an everyone votes elective government is it becomes a popularity contest more so than a merits contest.

In before we're all called racists and then we have to point out there are more poor white people than poor black people in the US.

[chiseledmanbeef]

We start limiting peoples' votes based on lack of achievements and suddenly Republicans win every election

[sy2502]

It's tempting to limit voting rights when you see the amount of stupid, or watching unproductive parts of society vote to give themselves more public money. But once you find one reason to limit voting rights, then any excuse can be used, including to take away YOUR voting rights. Never forget that. People who say not everyone should be allowed to vote always take for granted THEY will always be allowed to vote. It doesn't work that way.

[DeputyDink]

We tried this before and everyone said it was racist

[isingmodel]

We start limiting peoples' votes based on lack of achievements and suddenly Republicans win every election

Limit it based on level of educational achievement and you'll never see another R administration in your lifetime

[LordBroly]

Most people really don't need to know much about what's going on since the most important decisions like military intervention and monetary & fiscal policy are made independently. Plus countries with constitutions have built-in measures that prevent the uneducated masses from causing too much havoc. The American constitution was written with a good deal of pessimism in mind.

In before we're all called racists and then we have to point out there are more poor white people than poor black people in the US.

Of all the ways to disprove racism that has to be the worst argument. Not sure if srs

[JewishSuperHero]

Or should you have to take an IQ test and a psych evaluation before you can apply?


Think about the average joe blow you know personally. Those of average intelligence. Does the regular person typically know anything about macro economics, foreign affairs, politics, the justice system etc...or how certain policies effect any of these things? just lol

Normies on all sides are typically brainlets that do whatever feels good at the time and we even allow people with <90 IQ to vote

Everyone should have the right to vote regardless. There is no possible way that the tests, evaluations, whatever wouldn’t be biased one way or another.

[RIKTER]

Limit it to only American born citizens who parents are legal citizens.

[exyl]

Limit it based on level of educational achievement and you'll never see another R administration in your lifetime

That’s because the libs get degrees to work for republican CEO’s

[rectifryer]

Illegal immigrants shouldn't.

[exxtracool]

nah, everyone should have the right to vote.


the governments actions have an affect on everyone, so it isnt fair for any citizen (who isnt a dependent) to not be able to have a say in who is in charge of that government. unless ofc they have done something to warrant taking that right away from them.


thats just how democracy works.. it isnt perfect, but its the best we've been able to come up with. literally everything else is worse by a substantial margin.

[wesleysh21]

Everybody should be allowed to vote, even kids.

However only my vote should count.

[jeffl1980]

Limit it based on level of educational achievement and you'll never see another R administration in your lifetime

Limit it based on income bracket and you'll never see another D administration in your lifetime.

Unless we base it on the under 20k welfare vote............

[freshnevafrozen]

Anyone 18+ should have the right. If not, then you're just asking for a popular revolution. Interesting that so many of you "Libertarians" and "Republicans" on this subforum supporting limiting the rights of the people to vote.

[calumscotland]

no most people are legit morons

[RIKTER]

Anyone 18+ should have the right. If not, then you're just asking for a popular revolution. Interesting that so many of you "Libertarians" and "Republicans" on this subforum supporting limiting the rights of the people to vote.

If every single eligible person in America voted, Trump loses between an easy 10 million up to 15...thats true for every R though. Which is why voter suppression is good and should be encouraged.

American sovereignty > and system thats responsible for ending that

[exxtracool]

Anyone 18+ should have the right. If not, then you're just asking for a popular revolution. Interesting that so many of you "Libertarians" and "Republicans" on this subforum supporting limiting the rights of the people to vote.

a few isnt many lol... im sure there are "liberals" here who support ****ting on free speech and other non "liberal" ideals..

[Jayarbie]

IQ and psychological test would certainly get rid of most of the Trump base at least.

[JoshSP1985]

Limit it based on income bracket and you'll never see another D administration in your lifetime.

Unless we base it on the under 20k welfare vote............

Actually speaks pretty poorly about Democrats. More highly educated but lower earning. So they basically paid more money to have worse results. #smarts

[JoshSP1985]

IQ and psychological test would certainly get rid of most of the Trump base at least.

As if any party as a monopoly on stupidity.

[Jayarbie]

As if any party as a monopoly on stupidity.

Did I say any party has a monopoly on stupid or crazy? No, of course not, but the CT addled alt-right mouthbreathing "lock her up" wingnuts in the Trump base would be disproportionately eliminated for sure.

[dakensta]

Does the regular person typically know anything about macro economics, foreign affairs, politics, the justice system etc...or how certain policies effect any of these things?

Does the president?




The country isn't in the state it is because of the voters, it's because of the people they vote for. Make sure presidential candidates have expertise in macro economics, foreign affairs, politics, the justice system etc...or how certain policies effect any of these things, and it won't matter which flavour the masses vote for, they'll get a good POTUS either way.
Insane talk, I know.

[Nelly87]

U.S. citizen 18+ should be the requirement.

Anything else seems to be going backwards... i.e.
-Women couldn't vote
-Had to own property.
-Slaves couldn't vote.

If we establish IQ and other items it would be in essence creating yet another class of citizens, i.e. the voting class ruling all. Unfortunately the "stupid" get a vote as well.

[kingmanaverage]

We start limiting peoples' votes based on lack of achievements and suddenly Republicans win every election

How are you classifying success? A lot of the owners of big corporations like apple, google and youtube are liberal not to mention lots of hollywood actors and sportspeople too.

Are these really the people who you want to give your voting rights to?

Also to everyone saying it should be limited to iq, are you saying you want to forgo your voting rights to a bunch of people like Wincel who are very intelligent but maybe lack life experience in other areas?

Honestly I think the systerm is fine the way it is.

[GrandpaFeathers]

My opinion:
Felons should be allowed to vote. Only one vote per household unless the household is voting for more than one person. Should be a tax-paying citizen (or married to a tax-paying citizen) for most of the previous year, or currently paying taxes for the majority of current year

[GreatOldOne]

Yes. We're a Democratic Republic with the idea that wisdom in the Universe, God's wisdom, whatever you would call it...is distributed across mankind. It stands to reason that a vote considering everyone's opinion will ultimately prove the most wise.

Edit: We also elect representatives. The average person doesn't need to be an expert.