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    Are single mothers the representation of a declining society?

    To clarify, when I am referring to single mothers this means a woman who had children out of wedlock that have no father in the picture at all (no child support, don't know who he is, etc.). Now, this is EXCLUDING widows and women who got married, had children and later got divorced but receive child support from the father who does also have some involvement with them physically.

    A pattern that I've seen amongst these women is that they are generally trashy and take on a victim mindset. They fail to acknowledge and take accountability of the fact that they reproduced with a low quality guy, but then proceed to blame men for their problems. I could go on but I don't want to write an entire essay on this. The part that scares me the most though is that it seems to be relatively acceptable in our society and deemed normal, where as a few decades ago it was almost unheard of and something to be ashamed of.
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    9/10 women on my FB are single moms.

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    Women wants kids quick, but also want to remain available for a Chad. So they get pregnant, have the kid(s), become single, make father pay everything for child support, then desperately search for Chad.

    What they fail to realize is Chad won't date a used sloot with kids.
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    Yea, it's said bc the children as mean as it sounds are bastard Children.
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    Yes....you ready to hear some stats that will blow your mind:

    60% of ALL BIRTHS in the USA are paid for by Medicaid (free medical insurance for the very poor)

    Think about how awful that is, 60% of new moms are so poor and worthless they can't even afford healthcare...and yet they are reproducing.

    70% of ALL black babies are born to single moms. Not good, it has been shown over and over that the best environment for a kids success is a Nuclear family (mom, dad, child) early on. Most of these kids don't even have a chance from day 1.

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    Its definitely an issue, and appears to be a growing one. Like OP said, one thing that’s happened is the shame of abandoning the mother/kid and the shame of sleeping with and getting pregnant by a no good POS isn’t high enough for many people anymore.

    Part of it is definitely the females. Plenty of females get pregnant in situations that aren’t good for the kid. Throwing out the girls who can’t abort for religious reasons, the girls who chooose to carry a child full term in such a bad situation have a completely different mindset than the girls that hit the reset button.
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    Before 3rd wave feminism (ie white feminism, ie 1st world feminism) you wouldn't have seen such a high single parenthood rate nor a high divorce rate because people back then actually valued love and relationships. They WORKED in keeping things together instead of taking easy outs.
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    Women wants kids quick, but also want to remain available for a Chad. So they get pregnant, have the kid(s), become single, make father pay everything for child support, then desperately search for Chad.

    What they fail to realize is Chad won't date a used sloot with kids.
    This is very wrong, most women have kids out of wedlock because they want to fuk, as everyone does, but don't have sexual education, or education at all, there's a reason there are more teen pregnancies in the south (where they don't teach sex ed) than in the north.
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    This is very wrong, most women have kids out of wedlock because they want to fuk, as everyone does, but don't have sexual education, or education at all, there's a reason there are more teen pregnancies in the south (where they don't teach sex ed) than in the north.
    I went to HS in Texas. We were taught sex ed as early as 5th grade. No excuse to blame lack of sex ed when schools teach you and parents as well.
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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    I went to HS in Texas. We were taught sex ed as early as 5th grade. No excuse to blame lack of sex ed when schools teach you and parents as well.
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    20 states require that if provided, sex and/or HIV education must be medically, factually or technically accurate. State definitions of “medically accurate" vary, from requiring that the department of health review curriculum for accuracy, to mandating that curriculum be based on information from “published authorities upon which medical professionals rely.” (See table on medically accuracy laws.)
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    This is very wrong, most women have kids out of wedlock because they want to fuk, as everyone does, but don't have sexual education, or education at all, there's a reason there are more teen pregnancies in the south (where they don't teach sex ed) than in the north.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    This is very wrong, most women have kids out of wedlock because they want to fuk, as everyone does, but don't have sexual education, or education at all, there's a reason there are more teen pregnancies in the south (where they don't teach sex ed) than in the north.
    Teen pregnancy is actually way down.

    Anyway, bottom feeders produce more bottom feeders, who produce even more bottom feeders. That can't be good in the long run.

    One problem is that single mothers who get knocked up by piece of **** *******s, aren't looked down upon. They bitch about their no good, baby daddy, but they're the ones that decided to have a kid with them, then they find another ******* and get knocked up again, and the next thing you know, you have a single mother, with 3-4 kids, and all of them by a different guy who isnt in the picture.
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    It is concerning from a child welfare perspective.

    The term shotgun wedding was no joke y'all. Would all you guys that like to talk about smashing as many sloots as possible prefer to go back to that?

    I don't know if it was a better system, but it did really happen.

    Young girls were sent to homes to have their babies which were then put up for adoption...sometimes forcibly.

    Young men were forced into marrying pregnant girls that named them as the father even though maybe they weren't since this was pre genetic testing.

    Happened to one of my mom's sisters. Her family was seriously messed up. This girl's parents were letting her go out on dates with grown men when she was 15 years old.

    Then she came up pregnant and they pressured her to name the father. My mom says that her sister named a different guy than the one she thought got her pregnant to protect him.

    So then she was married off to the older man that she named and shipped off to his home state to be a wife and mother when she was only 17. Turned out he was a mean drunk.

    I was never able to verify it (because my grandparents and father already passed), but I was contacted by a woman from my father's hometown that claimed my father got her mother pregnant and that when her mother's parents found out they kicked her out. Said that my father's parents let the girl move in with them until she had the baby then it was put up for adoption. The woman who contacted me was trying to find the baby in question which would be a lost sibling of hers.

    And my parents should never have been married to each other as they really didn't suit.

    Dad got mom pregnant when they were around 21 years old. Mom says she told dad they didn't have to marry and she would raise the child herself. Dad's best friend's mom chewed dad out and said he had to do the right thing.

    So they married.

    Then the baby was born and only lived a short time due to medical malpractice per my mom. She said that her doctor knew that she had gotten pregnant out of wedlock and was nasty mean to her throughout the pregnancy and then injured the baby during the delivery.

    Yes, all these children without the support of 2 parents is a problem.

    "Good old days" weren't so golden though.
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    Most kids that are up to no good/start committing crimes habitually are growing up in a single parent household. Usually have an absent father...


    Probably one of the biggest factors in crime/criminality is family life/home environment. Even if someone is poor as fukk if they have attentive parents that make sure their kid does productive activities, does homework/applies themselves in school, has a good work ethic and good morals, etc. chances are that kid will turn out alright if not supersede his parents expectations.


    Obviously their are outliers but from the most part those are my observations.


    Its not all on the mothers fault as well. It takes two to tango. The problem is immature people breeding before they've been in a long term relationship/are fully ready for a family. There was a time where if you knocked a chick up, you married her, got a job, and supported your family.


    Was talking to an older guys about 2 weeks ago who got a chick pregnant when he was 16. His dad made him quit school and get a job to work full time to support her/the kid and their parents made them get married.
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    that's the pc answer brah
    No, your answer is the cucked white knight answer.

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    Teen pregnancy is actually way down.

    Anyway, bottom feeders produce more bottom feeders, who produce even more bottom feeders. That can't be good in the long run.

    One problem is that single mothers who get knocked up by piece of **** *******s, aren't looked down upon. They bitch about their no good, baby daddy, but they're the ones that decided to have a kid with them, then they find another ******* and get knocked up again, and the next thing you know, you have a single mother, with 3-4 kids, and all of them by a different guy who isnt in the picture.
    Yes, it's down, but it's much less down in the south, it's all about education. And yes they are looked down upon, at least by everyone I know.

    I've always said, give people a cash incentive if they neuter themselves. Giving someone $5k and paying for tube ligation or a vasectomy is way cheaper than paying for even 1 kid's welfare for 18 years. The dumb asses will flock to this, and they'll be actively removing themselves from the gene pool.
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    Originally Posted by ironmaniac508 View Post
    To clarify, when I am referring to single mothers this means a woman who had children out of wedlock that have no father in the picture at all (no child support, don't know who he is, etc.). Now, this is EXCLUDING widows and women who got married, had children and later got divorced but receive child support from the father who does also have some involvement with them physically.

    A pattern that I've seen amongst these women is that they are generally trashy and take on a victim mindset. They fail to acknowledge and take accountability of the fact that they reproduced with a low quality guy, but then proceed to blame men for their problems. I could go on but I don't want to write an entire essay on this. The part that scares me the most though is that it seems to be relatively acceptable in our society and deemed normal, where as a few decades ago it was almost unheard of and something to be ashamed of.
    lol how often is that really the case, like .00001%? that'd take circumstances like the girl being severely drunk and blacking out and getting pregnant
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    Originally Posted by ironmaniac508 View Post
    To clarify, when I am referring to single mothers this means a woman who had children out of wedlock that have no father in the picture at all (no child support, don't know who he is, etc.). Now, this is EXCLUDING widows and women who got married, had children and later got divorced but receive child support from the father who does also have some involvement with them physically.

    A pattern that I've seen amongst these women is that they are generally trashy and take on a victim mindset. They fail to acknowledge and take accountability of the fact that they reproduced with a low quality guy, but then proceed to blame men for their problems. I could go on but I don't want to write an entire essay on this. The part that scares me the most though is that it seems to be relatively acceptable in our society and deemed normal, where as a few decades ago it was almost unheard of and something to be ashamed of.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    This is very wrong, most women have kids out of wedlock because they want to fuk, as everyone does, but don't have sexual education, or education at all, there's a reason there are more teen pregnancies in the south (where they don't teach sex ed) than in the north.
    This belief necessitates the predication that sexual education is (and perhaps should be) the sole realm of the State/Education System. And that is absolutely absurd. Since time immemorial the older women of a community have educated the younger women as to the realities of pregnancy and birth control. And as evidenced, this is not happening now.

    This stands as proof that the rise in single motherhood is indicative of a declining society.
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    Most women who are single mothers, and even people who are poor, are in their situation because they make poor decisions and are bad with money.

    I suppose you can take this increasing number as a reflection of a failing capitalist economy, and a decline in the socioeconomic status of its inhabitants.
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    Originally Posted by bluegold04 View Post
    This belief necessitates the predication that sexual education is (and perhaps should be) the sole realm of the State/Education System. And that is absolutely absurd. Since time immemorial the older women of a community have educated the younger women as to the realities of pregnancy and birth control. And as evidenced, this is not happening now.

    This stands as proof that the rise in single motherhood is proof of a declining society.
    No, what would happen in olden times is, a woman would be killed for defiling her father's honor. It still happens in many countries now. There was no such thing as a woman sleeping around back when women were property. So there you go, you are incorrect.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    No, what would happen in olden times is, a woman would be killed for defiling her father's honor. It still happens in many countries now. There was no such thing as a woman sleeping around back when women were property. So there you go, you are incorrect.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    No, what would happen in olden times is, a woman would be killed for defiling her father's honor. It still happens in many countries now. There was no such thing as a woman sleeping around back when women were property. So there you go, you are incorrect.
    Right, which totally explains the complete eradication of a flower in Rome that was a natural birth control method for women, Silphium. Because of all the killings for women sleeping around. In humans, women are the sexual selectors. Of course they have been sleeping around. Just because a society was patriarchal doesn't mean they would put a woman to death for having unwed sex.

    I'm sorry man, I agree with some of the things you say on here, but not this. Women educate young women on these matters. And as a society, or a community if you will, that has historically been the domain delineation. And that is the responsibility of women today. Unless you are advocating for taking away all women's rights and responsibilities? Are you?
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    If you look at the stats for children raised by single mothers, it should be a crime to raise a child by yourself. I think it's worse off having a single mother than single father as well.

    My old boss used to not hire guys who didn't have a father because 9/10 of the previous hires who were raised by a single mom had no dedication, didn't work hard and were complete dropkicks.
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    Originally Posted by ironmaniac508 View Post
    To clarify, when I am referring to single mothers this means a woman who had children out of wedlock that have no father in the picture at all (no child support, don't know who he is, etc.). Now, this is EXCLUDING widows and women who got married, had children and later got divorced but receive child support from the father who does also have some involvement with them physically.

    A pattern that I've seen amongst these women is that they are generally trashy and take on a victim mindset. They fail to acknowledge and take accountability of the fact that they reproduced with a low quality guy, but then proceed to blame men for their problems. I could go on but I don't want to write an entire essay on this. The part that scares me the most though is that it seems to be relatively acceptable in our society and deemed normal, where as a few decades ago it was almost unheard of and something to be ashamed of.
    You realize for a women to be a single mother with no guy in the picture means there is also a deadbeat dad out there as well?

    So it's more of a question if single moms and dead beat dads are a representation of a declining society.

    The answer is, and always will be, No.

    They have existed forever, and the issue is way too complex for any single factor to be the representation.

    Originally Posted by ognami View Post
    If you look at the stats for children raised by single mothers, it should be a crime to raise a child by yourself. I think it's worse off having a single mother than single father as well.

    My old boss used to not hire guys who didn't have a father because 9/10 of the previous hires who were raised by a single mom had no dedication, didn't work hard and were complete dropkicks.
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