GDA products help

[Zariph]

Hello - looked on some GDA products like Burn24, glycodrive etc etc, are these helpfull when bulking? or is it worthless like testbooster for instance;P?

[kissdadookie]

Hello - looked on some GDA products like Burn24, glycodrive etc etc, are these helpfull when bulking? or is it worthless like testbooster for instance;P?

Useful for bulking far more than when cutting IMHO. Reason being, you want some help with partitioning glucose to muscle tissue as well as more importantly, helping to keep insulin sensitivity in check.

[Zariph]

Useful for bulking far more than when cutting IMHO. Reason being, you want some help with partitioning glucose to muscle tissue as well as more importantly, helping to keep insulin sensitivity in check.

nice - which GDA would you suggest? - and will they help or should I waste my money on a gda product?

[Misctake7]

Hello - looked on some GDA products like Burn24, glycodrive etc etc, are these helpfull when bulking? or is it worthless like testbooster for instance;P?

Some people bloat easily on carbs. I happen to be one of those people and I take a GDA on and off year round with my high carb meals. The 4 GDA's I've tried all help with the bloating and some of them offer some pretty awesome pumps.

Prime Partition-MD
Blue Star Glycodrive
Burn24
AI Sports Glycobol

[kissdadookie]

nice - which GDA would you suggest? - and will they help or should I waste my money on a gda product?

They help noticeably when bulking or even maintaining/recomping and your intake of carbs are pretty high. The ones you've mentioned are pretty good. You can also take a look at Partition-MD which John Meadows gives you a breakdown of in the video I posted above

[Zariph]

thx for the replies guys - will take a look at those you guys mentioned ;D

[VO2Maxima]

Burn24 is the only one I've used, and that's pretty solid. Partition-MD, Blue Star Glycodrive, and the new Myokem Transport all look pretty solid. Alternately, you can go bulk Na-R-ALA + agmatine, which worth considering if 1) you're on a budget, or 2) you're also using forskolin (forskolin and berberine compete as far as their effects on cAMP).

[dazedncnfz]

I have used and love both Glycodrive and Partition MD. OP you can't go wrong with either one IMO. I used them both (not at the same time) with any carb meal I had. No bloat, used when cutting or bulking.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bl...lycodrive.html

[tmd17]

Na-R-ALA is the king when it comes to glucose disposal.

[MyoRich]

Wait until you see the GDA we're releasing in a few weeks

[kbayne]

Agmatine + Na-R-ALA + ALCAR
Slintensity

And I am very interested in Myokem new GDA.

Remember, most of these GDA's contain different ingredients which all have different MOA's. So be sure you're getting what you want -- increase insulin sensitivity, reduction in blood glucose, or nutrient partitioning, etc.

[Hyruliangoat]

They are just as useful for cutting imo as well, especially on refeeds or higher than usual carb days. Alcar (this one especially) with agmatine with na r ala, with berberine and you have a hell of a gda stack.

[kbayne]

They are just as useful for cutting imo as well, especially on refeeds or higher than usual carb days. Alcar (this one especially) with agmatine with na r ala, with berberine and you have a hell of a gda stack.

Certain GDA aren't going to benefit for refers as some contain ingredients that block carbohydrate absorption.

[Hyruliangoat]

Certain GDA aren't going to benefit for refers as some contain ingredients that block carbohydrate absorption.

which is a good thing if you splurge lol

[kbayne]

which is a good thing if you splurge lol

Well that defeats the purpose of a refeed then, so not really.

[AMeyer9]

which is a good thing if you splurge lol

Not everyone only eats pizza and ice cream.

Even if the pizza has fat free cheese.

[rhadam]

Agmatine + Na-R-ALA + ALCAR
Slintensity

And I am very interested in Myokem new GDA.

Remember, most of these GDA's contain different ingredients which all have different MOA's. So be sure you're getting what you want -- increase insulin sensitivity, reduction in blood glucose, or nutrient partitioning, etc.

I can personally vouch for the Agmatine + ALCAR + na r ala combo... so good. I've used Glycophase a lot which i like, as well as the old SlinSane.

[XCriticalBenchX]

Agmatine + Ala is what I use most commonly. Slintensity as well. Recompadrol WAS awesome but its gone.

Mike

[pogue]

There is some debate as to whether ALA will actually force glucose into muscle tissue as opposed to fat since all the studies in ALA were done in diabetic or pre-diabetic people.
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014...poic-acid.html
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012...poic-acid.html

[muruku]

What about a formula like prometheus rising?

[cbs]

Na-R-ALA is the king when it comes to glucose disposal.

2nd this........

[tastan]

Some people bloat easily on carbs. I happen to be one of those people and I take a GDA on and off year round with my high carb meals. The 4 GDA's I've tried all help with the bloating and some of them offer some pretty awesome pumps.

Prime Partition-MD
Blue Star Glycodrive
Burn24
AI Sports Glycobol

Thank you for the support

Yes AI Sports Glycobol is great GDA. You'll feel and look fuller. It also helps with getting great muscle pumps during workout.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ai...archterm=glyco

Also check out
Genomyx: Slin Sane

[kbayne]

There is some debate as to whether ALA will actually force glucose into muscle tissue as opposed to fat since all the studies in ALA were done in diabetic or pre-diabetic people.
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014...poic-acid.html
http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2012...poic-acid.html

Most shuttle glucose to both muscle and adipose. TUDCA is the only supplement to shuttle directly to muscle tissue I am aware of.

[aaronuconn]

Most shuttle glucose to both muscle and adipose. TUDCA is the only supplement to shuttle directly to muscle tissue I am aware of.

Little bit of evidence for Agmatine for muscle preference via beta endorphin release.

[kbayne]

Little bit of evidence for Agmatine for muscle preference via beta endorphin release.

Yeah, I agree. Been doing more research on the topic of Agmatine and muscle tissue. Seems it does shuttle to muscle but according to a few articles and studies, still sensitive to adipose as well.

[pogue]

Most shuttle glucose to both muscle and adipose. TUDCA is the only supplement to shuttle directly to muscle tissue I am aware of.

I don't see any good studies showing that unless I'm missing something.

[aaronuconn]

I don't see any good studies showing that unless I'm missing something.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20522594/

The dose used in the above study (1750mg) makes it quite unaffordable, though.

[kbayne]

I don't see any good studies showing that unless I'm missing something.

Aaron got you. The dose needed isn't very feasible though, at all.

[JohnSmeton]

Insulin mimetics are best taking with big carbohydrate meals. aka postworkout. I've been taking regular alpha lipoic acid with breakfast, and 500 mgs na-rala (glycobol post workout)

NA-R-Ala is some potent stuff and the best and most potent out of all the lipioc acids

Glycobol contains 250 mgs per capsule of Na-r-ala which is a high amount, along with some other insulin mimetic ingredients

[UNCnate]

I have several of these that I use. Glycobol, Burn24, and Partition-MD. All three are awesome and you can't go wrong with either.