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    Are GDA products (specifically burn 24) dangers? Increase likelihood of diabetes?

    I am cutting. I am counting calories religiously, lifting 3-4x a week and doing hitt 2x a week. I would like to take a supplement that can aid in my cut and would like to stay away from yohimbe. I am intrigued by Burn 24.

    To be honest however, despite my researching the ingredients on google and NCBI, I am still a little unclear on the MOA. I have reservations that taking a supplement like this would increase the bodies need to push out more insulin than normal (and we know unstable insulin activity can cause diabetes).

    My grandfather has diabetes and my father is borderline diabetic (he tests his bloodsugar at home regularly).

    So my question if you can break it down into laymens terms are 1) how does Burn 24 and GDAs generally work and 2) is this a safe MOA to which we are subjecting our bodies.

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    you have a completely incorrect understanding of what GDA's do

    they're designed to IMPROVE insulin sensitivity, meaning LESS insulin required to regulate blood sugar
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    Originally Posted by RVAPump View Post
    you have a completely incorrect understanding of what GDA's do

    they're designed to IMPROVE insulin sensitivity, meaning LESS insulin required to regulate blood sugar
    It sounds like I was interpreting the data/results incorrectly.

    Can you expound a little?
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    GDA's shuttle sugar and carbohydrates to the muscles.


    The body then less relies on insulin for it to be done, therefore increasing insulin sensitivity.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    GDA's shuttle sugar and carbohydrates to the muscles.


    The body then less relies on insulin for it to be done, therefore increasing insulin sensitivity.
    I'm a litle confused. So GDA acts in the same manner as insulin but does so without any of the negative effects of insulin release?

    Also, would it be acceptable to take a GDA supplement such as Burn 24 of bitter melon at the same time as a combination of green tea/green coffee bean/forskolin (30 minutes pre meals)?

    Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by feelthetpump View Post
    I'm a litle confused. So GDA acts in the same manner as insulin but does so without any of the negative effects of insulin release?


    Yes.
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    Originally Posted by TMac26 View Post
    Yes.
    Thanks.

    Anyone know if it would be acceptable to take a GDA supplement such as Burn 24 of bitter melon at the same time as a combination of green tea/green coffee bean/forskolin (30 minutes pre meals)?
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    But basically, my understanding is: spiking insulin is good fat muscle gain and bad for fat loss. And keeping blood sugar stable is good for fat loss but not necessarily great for muscle growth.

    Is that not pretty accurate?
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    I have a feeling I'm going to get laughed at for this, but....

    Is it a bad idea to take a GDA supplement right before bed? The concern being that it could potentially drop you hypoglycemic and if its extreme, into a coma....and since you are asleep, you wouldnt feel the fatigue/dizziness and be able to eat anything that would spike your blood sugar back up.

    Highly unlikely, but possible, right?
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    Originally Posted by feelthetpump View Post
    I have a feeling I'm going to get laughed at for this, but....

    Is it a bad idea to take a GDA supplement right before bed? The concern being that it could potentially drop you hypoglycemic and if its extreme, into a coma....and since you are asleep, you wouldnt feel the fatigue/dizziness and be able to eat anything that would spike your blood sugar back up.

    Highly unlikely, but possible, right?
    Just stick to taking it prior to having a meal wit carbs
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Just stick to taking it prior to having a meal wit carbs
    that scares me.
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    btw, Anyone know if it would be acceptable to take a GDA supplement such as Burn 24 of bitter melon at the same time as a combination of green tea/green coffee bean/forskolin (30 minutes pre meals)?
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    Originally Posted by feelthetpump View Post
    that scares me.
    If a GDA scares you, i'm guessing you don't use aspirin or caffeine or any OTC drugs?
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    Originally Posted by feelthetpump View Post
    btw, Anyone know if it would be acceptable to take a GDA supplement such as Burn 24 of bitter melon at the same time as a combination of green tea/green coffee bean/forskolin (30 minutes pre meals)?
    it has green coffee bean in it

    and no, shouldn't have any problems taking it with forskolin prior to a meal

    but seriously if something THIS minor scares you that much then just don't take it
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    Originally Posted by feelthetpump View Post
    I have a feeling I'm going to get laughed at for this, but....

    Is it a bad idea to take a GDA supplement right before bed? The concern being that it could potentially drop you hypoglycemic and if its extreme, into a coma....and since you are asleep, you wouldnt feel the fatigue/dizziness and be able to eat anything that would spike your blood sugar back up.

    Highly unlikely, but possible, right?
    A. Why would you take it before bed? The whole point is to take a GDA is to help your body process carbs more effciently.
    B. I think you're seriously over thinking this. If you're actually that worried about a product like this, it's possible the stress it could cause you by taking it may become an issue.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    If a GDA scares you, i'm guessing you don't use aspirin or caffeine or any OTC drugs?
    I was referring specifically to taking GDA prior to bed.
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    Originally Posted by RVAPump View Post
    it has green coffee bean in it

    and no, shouldn't have any problems taking it with forskolin prior to a meal

    but seriously if something THIS minor scares you that much then just don't take it
    Thank you. No, the GDA generally does not scare me....it sounds like it actually is beneficial. When I said that I had reservations, I was referring specifically to taking the GDA prior to bed
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    weird how people love gdas but generally dont care about the roles of insulin through their diet. should bump your other thread so i can read more about all the "beneficial" carb supplement use on a cut.
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    If you are scared of a Gda.. dont use it. Plain and simple.
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