should I use a pre-workout and or creatine?

[Cshall98]

I've been lifting for about 4 months now, been making some progress in pretty much everything. Main goal is to gain weight obv.
I go to the gym right after school, (after a small pre-workout snack) and I am a little drained of energy after a school day. Should I use a pre-workout sup and or creatine? If so, when in the day and how much?

Btw the one supplement I have rn is cellucor whey, which i take 2 scoops of post workout.

[shoefanatic23]

Perhaps try to eat more before you workout. Not saying have a huge pre workout meal, but perhaps try to have a breakfast, snack, bigger lunch, and then a pre workout meal.

[lucia316]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156884513

Eat more food. Perhaps get up earlier and workout in the AM before school.

[Kennysvgp08]

We don't give supp advice to kids under 18, just for legal reasons, but also because at your age, you just don't need it. Just eat some carbs before you lift and maybe have some poptarts and meat like I enjoy doing post workout

[Cshall98]

We don't give supp advice to kids under 18, just for legal reasons, but also because at your age, you just don't need it. Just eat some carbs before you lift and maybe have some poptarts and meat like I enjoy doing post workout

My bad, missed that sticky somehow lol. Thanks though

[mtownballer20]

Pre workout carbs of peace, put on your jams, and get after it.

[The Solution]

Your 16
Eat Food, not invest in supplements


First you are under 18 years of age, So due to liability issues being a company rep you should first read these 2 threads and why we cannot recommend supplements to those under 18 years of age:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161791793
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156884513

These would be a great place to start

[Cshall98]

Your 16
Eat Food, not invest in supplements


First you are under 18 years of age, So due to liability issues being a company rep you should first read these 2 threads and why we cannot recommend supplements to those under 18 years of age:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=161791793
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156884513

These would be a great place to start

Ive never read the stickys in the supplement sections, but I just did and from what I can tell its WAY more important (especially at 16) to hit my macros and eat in a caloric surplus (which I'm trying to do rn anyway). Ill stick with coffee & carbs pre workout

[dubbwebb]

Ive never read the stickys in the supplement sections, but I just did and from what I can tell its WAY more important (especially at 16) to hit my macros and eat in a caloric surplus (which I'm trying to do rn anyway). Ill stick with coffee & carbs pre workout

Good man

[changemyoil66]

At 16, just eat more and growth takes time.

[Bigdumogre]

Ive never read the stickys in the supplement sections, but I just did and from what I can tell its WAY more important (especially at 16) to hit my macros and eat in a caloric surplus (which I'm trying to do rn anyway). Ill stick with coffee & carbs pre workout

Eat everything don't even count macros you are barely 100lbs

[Cshall98]

Eat everything don't even count macros you are barely 100lbs

I keep track of cals just to make sure I hit 2500, otherwise I always undereat.

[llahhsoj]

I keep track of cals just to make sure I hit 2500, otherwise I always undereat.

If you get the grasp of proper diet with a few years of consistent training, you will be ahead of a good amount of your peers by the time you are 18 or so.

[Cshall98]

If you get the grasp of proper diet with a few years of consistent training, you will be ahead of a good amount of your peers by the time you are 18 or so.

Solid motivation

[The Solution]

I keep track of cals just to make sure I hit 2500, otherwise I always undereat.

at 16 you probably will need more. Your metabolism is going into its peak. Keep eating.

[MirinMyTraps]

Agree with the rest. Prioritize eating more at more at your age

[Cshall98]

Agree with the rest. Prioritize eating more at more at your age

So... I understand from thread not to take other supps than whey and eat carbs pre workout.
I can't really eat more than 25-2700 a day, I just feel like sh*t if I eat a lot. My stomach was not made for that..

[Sixpack]

I would up your calories during the day so you are not feeling hungry. Creatine is not food. Your choice of whey is fine. Your 16 years old. I don't think you need to be using creatine at 16

[The Solution]

So... I understand from thread not to take other supps than whey and eat carbs pre workout.
I can't really eat more than 25-2700 a day, I just feel like sh*t if I eat a lot. My stomach was not made for that..

You do not need whey at 16 years old.
You just need more food. Period.
You can easily eat more than 2500-2700. that comes down to your food choices

PB & J Sandwiches
PB & Fluff Bagels
mix a full fat yougrt + Banana + Granola + 3-4 TBSP Peanut butter in a bowl for an easy amount of kcals (almost 1000) if portions are right
Pasta + 90/10 Beef + 2 TBSP Oil = Easy kcals and wont bloat you one bit
The reason why its hard to reach that intake is because you make it hard.

[Cshall98]

You do not need whey at 16 years old.
You just need more food. Period.
You can easily eat more than 2500-2700. that comes down to your food choices

PB & J Sandwiches
PB & Fluff Bagels
mix a full fat yougrt + Banana + Granola + 3-4 TBSP Peanut butter in a bowl for an easy amount of kcals (almost 1000) if portions are right
Pasta + 90/10 Beef + 2 TBSP Oil = Easy kcals and wont bloat you one bit
The reason why its hard to reach that intake is because you make it hard.

Ok, true I should stock up on more calorie dense and clean food

[MirinMyTraps]

So... I understand from thread not to take other supps than whey and eat carbs pre workout.
I can't really eat more than 25-2700 a day, I just feel like sh*t if I eat a lot. My stomach was not made for that..

You do not need whey at 16 years old.
You just need more food. Period.
You can easily eat more than 2500-2700. that comes down to your food choices

PB & J Sandwiches
PB & Fluff Bagels
mix a full fat yougrt + Banana + Granola + 3-4 TBSP Peanut butter in a bowl for an easy amount of kcals (almost 1000) if portions are right
Pasta + 90/10 Beef + 2 TBSP Oil = Easy kcals and wont bloat you one bit
The reason why its hard to reach that intake is because you make it hard.

This

[The Solution]

Ok, true I should stock up on more calorie dense and clean food

at 16 .
You need to start here
The word clean is subjective

http://wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutri...-clean-eating/
A legitimate question is, what’s the best way to distribute discretionary calories? Should they be confined to a daily limit, or can it be a weekly limit? The best answer is to let personal preference decide. If we use a 2000 kcal diet as an example, a flat/linear approach would mean that 200-400 kcal per day can come from whatever you want, while meeting essential needs otherwise in the diet. Weekly, this translates to 1400-2800 kcal, depending on the factors I previously discussed. One nonlinear option would be to break the weekly allotment in half, where 2 days per week you indulge in 700-1400 kcal of whatever you want, keeping the remaining 5 days relatively Spartan. Again, there is no universally superior method of distributing the discretionary allotment. The same principle applies to the choice of foods to fulfill it. Honoring personal preference is one of the most powerful yet underrated tactics for achieving optimal health and body composition. And that’s the nitty-gritty as I see it.

[Cshall98]

at 16 .
You need to start here
The word clean is subjective

http://wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutri...-clean-eating/
A legitimate question is, what’s the best way to distribute discretionary calories? Should they be confined to a daily limit, or can it be a weekly limit? The best answer is to let personal preference decide. If we use a 2000 kcal diet as an example, a flat/linear approach would mean that 200-400 kcal per day can come from whatever you want, while meeting essential needs otherwise in the diet. Weekly, this translates to 1400-2800 kcal, depending on the factors I previously discussed. One nonlinear option would be to break the weekly allotment in half, where 2 days per week you indulge in 700-1400 kcal of whatever you want, keeping the remaining 5 days relatively Spartan. Again, there is no universally superior method of distributing the discretionary allotment. The same principle applies to the choice of foods to fulfill it. Honoring personal preference is one of the most powerful yet underrated tactics for achieving optimal health and body composition. And that’s the nitty-gritty as I see it.

So, basically its ok to eat dirty food in moderation, as long as you still hit your daily macros..

[JSClen]

some complex carbs as a pwo meal, some fruit juice during your workout, some poptarts after your workout, you will be all good.

[Big.Jazayrli]

You could opt for a cup of coffee

Or even two?

[Cshall98]

You could opt for a cup of coffee

Or even two?

coffee and carbs seems like the way to go