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    What am I doing wrong?

    I have been going to the gym, at least 3-4 times a week for about 6 weeks now. I am really trying to focus on upper body. But I am not seeing any change yet. I am not feeling any soreness the days after workout either. I did initially, but none now. I am using weight heavy enough where I am struggling to finish my sets. doing about 4-5 exercises per body part and try to alternate exericses so I am not working one part repeatedly (Chest , biceps, chest , biceps etc).
    I am trying to maximze my protein intact, but not sure what else I can do, or change.
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    Are you following a program or are you doing something on your own ? Soreness is not always equal to a good work out. Are you getting any stronger ? That would be a better judge as to if your working in the right direction rather than soreness. Post what your routine looks like also.
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    My Biceps exercises include Machine biceps Curls, Cable overhead biceps curls, Alternating Dumbell Curls, Alternating Hammer curls, and EZ Bar Barbell curls. I typically do this with Chest exercsies as well (Incline, Decline, and chest press cable cross overs). I will vary the order based on equipment availability. I typically do 3 sets of 8 of each.
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    Muscle breakdown and repair is constant, but is not usually visable in such a short time span.. I did not see major changes for least a year or two. Just keep at it.
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    1. If you're training instinctively (sounds like it), DON'T. Get on a structured program (like "Starting Strength"). Train HARD, Train Heavy, and Train as often as humanly possible.
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    Originally Posted by Navyhm71 View Post
    I have been going to the gym, at least 3-4 times a week for about 6 weeks now. try to alternate exericses so I am not working one part repeatedly (Chest , biceps, chest , biceps etc).
    Originally Posted by Navyhm71 View Post
    My Biceps exercises include Machine biceps Curls, Cable overhead biceps curls, Alternating Dumbell Curls, Alternating Hammer curls, and EZ Bar Barbell curls. I typically do this with Chest exercsies as well (Incline, Decline, and chest press cable cross overs).
    1) it's only been 6 weeks

    2) you mention chest and biceps in both posts, but no other muscle groups. Are you only training those 2 muscle groups?
    Screw nature; my body will do what I DAMN WELL tell it to do!

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    I agree with the others and get on a solid beginners program and stick with it for 6 months to a year.
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    6 weeks is nothing & quit that stupid 3x8 routine - it doesn't work

    Lift compound excercises with intensity

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    If the weigths are increasing and your not sore, be thankful.
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    Originally Posted by Navyhm71 View Post
    I have been going to the gym, at least 3-4 times a week for about 6 weeks now. I am really trying to focus on upper body. But I am not seeing any change yet. I am not feeling any soreness the days after workout either. I did initially, but none now. I am using weight heavy enough where I am struggling to finish my sets. doing about 4-5 exercises per body part and try to alternate exericses so I am not working one part repeatedly (Chest , biceps, chest , biceps etc).
    I am trying to maximze my protein intact, but not sure what else I can do, or change.
    sounds like you've adapt to your program you need to change it and learn how to change it depending on how your body reacts to routines and techniques. You might start with adding all body part exercises non-alternating bis-bis-etc or add supersets. Do your biceps on your shoulder or back day or on your leg day. Read up on the different techniques and routine changing or splits and that you will adapt to everyone- you have to keep your body guessing. That sounds to be the issue, your muscles know whats to come, it's not a challenge or shock really.

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    Op you may consider getting on a structured program. Periodization, Pyramid or 5x5 maybe be agreeable to you. Be patient and be smart or you will be posting about rotor cuff, neck, and knee injuries.
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    Couple things to checklist:
    - Weights for Full Body Workout from Arms and Chest to Legs to Abs
    - Cardio
    - Body Based Exercises (Pushups, Plank Holds, Oblique and Abs, Medicine Ball Twists, etc). You can purchase a home workout program based on body workouts or weight workouts when not in a gym. I do both weights and body daily.
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    - Yoga stretch workout to repair. Stretching is important to keep the muscles from dying of soreness and lengthen it out.
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    That's a lot of exercises, and not much a structured programme Navyhm71. To give some idea of how few exercises you really need, consider this: I do four exercises for upper body: bench press, T-Bar row, overhead press, pullups. Each twice a week, four sets a time. This doesn't need to be complicated.
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    Diet, know and hit your macros for your protein, fats, and carbs. Pick a proven beginner program over in the workout section. This will be a 3 day a week full body that includes the compound exercises as the base of your routine. Right now you are trying to get big doing a bunch of accessory work. You have got to build your base with the big compounds and then add in the accessory work that you have now.

    Squats, some type of deadlift, some type of row, some type of overhead press, preferably all while using a barbell should be part of your routine. Pull ups, dips etc are also great for accessory work if you can do them.

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    you have to keep your body guessing.
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    Originally Posted by Navyhm71 View Post
    I have been going to the gym, at least 3-4 times a week for about 6 weeks now. I am really trying to focus on upper body. But I am not seeing any change yet. I am not feeling any soreness the days after workout either. I did initially, but none now. I am using weight heavy enough where I am struggling to finish my sets. doing about 4-5 exercises per body part and try to alternate exericses so I am not working one part repeatedly (Chest , biceps, chest , biceps etc).
    I am trying to maximze my protein intact, but not sure what else I can do, or change.
    What about the other 75% of your muscle groups---you back and legs?



    Stop what you're currently doing, and start all over again, here:

    Fierce 5 Novice routine:
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    If you don't know how to perform any of the exercises in this program, look them up here to learn how to do them correctly:
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    This thread will explain all the steps to figure your baseline of required protein, fat, carbs, and calories:
    *Emma Leigh's calorie/macro thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=156380183

    Get your regular-food nutrition squared-away and your eating on a consistent basis for a couple of months, and then consider addition of possible supplements.




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    Ok, So I am going to try the Jim Stoppani 12 week Shortcut to Size routine. My next question is, I workout early in the mornings (5am) and do not have a workout partner. Looking at this program, seems like you should really have one. I know bench press/squats etc are much more effective than doing similar motions on machines/cable systems.
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    Does your gym have a power rack? That's all the training partner you'll need I'm assuming. (haven't read that program you're planning on though)
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    Do you mean like a smith machine? were the bar can rotate and hook onto pegs so you can limit how far down it goes?
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    Do you mean like a smith machine? were the bar can rotate and hook onto pegs so you can limit how far down it goes?



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    Shaneinga mentioned your Diet , your eating is the key ingredient to shaping your body! Read/read/read and then read some more about nutrition all over the forums on here, you'll find whatever you need to reach whatever goal you want.

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