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    Do Liberals Really Believe That Islam Is A Religion of Peace

    or do they just say that to appease the extremist so they won't get their heads chopped off or blown up? Sometimes I feel that a lot of those non Muslim people who get all up in arms when someone criticizes Islam don't actually agree with what they are saying, but are just trying to keep their head.

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    Demonstrate/elaborate on your understanding of Islam as a belief system.

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    Originally Posted by DarthScorpio11 View Post
    or do they just say that to appease the extremist so they won't get their heads chopped off or blown up? Sometimes I feel that a lot of those non Muslim people who get all up in arms when someone criticizes Islam don't actually agree with what they are saying, but are just trying to keep their head.
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    Originally Posted by triception View Post
    Comparing extremist Muslim groups to ordinary Muslims is like conflating the KKK with your average Christian
    Except a vocal majority of muslims support sharia law.
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    Originally Posted by triception View Post
    Comparing extremist Muslim groups to ordinary Muslims is like conflating the KKK with your average Christian
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    Originally Posted by triception View Post
    Comparing extremist Muslim groups to ordinary Muslims is like conflating the KKK with your average Christian
    I never compared the extremist Muslim groups with ordinary Muslim groups. Do I believe that most Muslims are terrorist? No. Do I believe the extremist are more faithful to their religion. Yep. There are also moderate-liberal Christians and Christian extremist, but that's not what we're here to discuss --so your point is neither here nor there.

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    Muslims in the media are portrayed as peaceful but in real life it's totally different.
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    No Abrahamic religion is the religion of peace. Most Muslims are good hard working peace loving people.

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    Muslims in the media are portrayed as peaceful but in real life it's totally different.
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    An objective analysis of the Quran, Mohhameds life, and Islamic expansionism/imperialism will show that Islam promotes peace in specific situations but overall promotes offensive warfare and justifies violence/slavery/rape in a number of situations, more-so than any surviving religion.

    For a comparitive analysis, compare Buddhism (an actual religion of peace) to Islam, and one will see they are nearly opposite in many regards.
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    Originally Posted by indosthetic View Post
    An objective analysis of the Quran, Mohhameds life, and Islamic expansionism/imperialism will show that Islam promotes peace in specific situations but overall promotes offensive warfare and justifies violence/slavery/rape in a number of situations, more-so than any surviving religion.

    For a comparitive analysis, compare Buddhism (an actual religion of peace) to Islam, and one will see they are nearly opposite in many regards.
    Don't they have slaves in Qatar?

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    Originally Posted by indosthetic View Post
    An objective analysis of the Quran, Mohhameds life, and Islamic expansionism/imperialism will show that Islam promotes peace in specific situations but overall promotes offensive warfare and justifies violence/slavery/rape in a number of situations, more-so than any surviving religion.

    For a comparitive analysis, compare Buddhism (an actual religion of peace) to Islam, and one will see they are nearly opposite in many regards.
    This is true but same is also true for Christianity and Judaism in terms of violence and qualities of described god.

    I can't take a non Muslim in Abrahamic Faith seriously who criticizes Islam because I view them as a blind hypocrite who conveniently ignores their own religon.

    Most sane people don't follow their beliefs and love peace but ****ed up middle east situation allows for the breeding of disgusting minded ****ers.

    Not a Muslim btw just pointing out hypocrisy that many atheists laugh at when religious people criticize Islam

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    Don't they have slaves in Qatar?
    yep.

    slavery is intrinsic to gulf-Arabic culture.

    being that Mohhamed was a gulf-Arab, its no surprise that slavery is a big part of Islam and that Mohhamed took slaves.
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    Originally Posted by Jattz View Post
    This is true but same is also true for Christianity and Judaism in terms of violence and qualities of described god.

    I can't take a non Muslim in Abrahamic Faith seriously who criticizes Islam because I view them as a blind hypocrite who conveniently ignores their own religon.

    Most sane people don't follow their beliefs and love peace but ****ed up middle east situation allows for the breeding of disgusting minded ****ers.
    Except christianity doesn't concretely say the same things the Qu'ran does. I don't think you're educated on the matter.
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    Originally Posted by Jattz View Post
    This is true but same is also true for Christianity and Judaism in terms of violence and qualities of described god.

    I can't take a non Muslim in Abrahamic Faith seriously who criticizes Islam because I view them as a blind hypocrite who conveniently ignores their own religon.

    Most sane people don't follow their beliefs and love peace but ****ed up middle east situation allows for the breeding of disgusting minded ****ers.

    Not a Muslim btw just pointing out hypocrisy that many atheists laugh at when religious people criticize Islam
    The OT is more violent than the Quran but 99.999999% of Jews arent stupid enough to take it seriously.

    Cant say the same about Muslims.
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    Originally Posted by Jattz View Post
    This is true but same is also true for Christianity and Judaism in terms of violence and qualities of described god.

    I can't take a non Muslim in Abrahamic Faith seriously who criticizes Islam because I view them as a blind hypocrite who conveniently ignores their own religon.

    Most sane people don't follow their beliefs and love peace but ****ed up middle east situation allows for the breeding of disgusting minded ****ers.

    Not a Muslim btw just pointing out hypocrisy that many atheists laugh at when religious people criticize Islam
    Except liberals bash Christianity all the time. Do you remember when South Park had an episode with Mohamed and this terrorist group got pissed and threatened Comedy Central? Well, they gave in and censored the episode. Little by little our freedom of speech is being taken away. Hate people like that. Also hate Comedy Central for being bishes about it.

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    Originally Posted by DarthScorpio11 View Post
    Except liberals bash Christianity all the time...
    Doesn't change the fact that the criticisms of religion are true.

    Islamophibia isn't a thing imo but many racist religious non Muslims use this as a justification of hate so I'm playing the sound of reason in thread to show a reasonable and balanced look..

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    The OT is more violent than the Quran but 99.999999% of Jews arent stupid enough to take it seriously.

    Cant say the same about Muslims.
    Well, I don't know about that. Israel/Palestine. Maybe the once that have been Americanized.

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    Many liberals, like myself, are equal opportunity haters when it comes to religion.
    I don't have a problem with people like you, but it's the liberals that try so hard to appease them that piss me off

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    Originally Posted by indosthetic View Post
    The OT is more violent than the Quran but 99.999999% of Jews arent stupid enough to take it seriously.

    Cant say the same about Muslims.
    Yeah that's where reason comes into play. No normal dude would follow demented ideology of hate unless they were in a situation where they have an increased likelihood to believe in it.

    Not that black and white but truth is luckily most Muslims are peace loving and despise fundamentalist extremists

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    Originally Posted by Jattz View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that the criticisms of religion are true.

    Islamophibia isn't a thing imo but many racist religious non Muslims use this as a justification of hate so I'm playing the sound of reason in thread to show a reasonable and balanced look..
    There is a huge difference between racism and hatred of a religion. I hate Islam. If I could make a machine that erases it from the memory of all human beings, I would. I have no problem with people of any race that present themselves to me as respectable. I have a female friend who is Muslim. She's cool. I feel sorry for her in a way, to be honest.

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    Loaded question

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    A proper liberal would think people should be able to believe what they want, practice whatever religion they want and not be discriminated toward because of their beliefs.

    Are you a christian? If not humor me for a moment: when Anders Breivik shot 80+ kids in Norway in the name of a holy crusade against islam should you be held responsible for his actions? You're both technically Christian.

    I believe the world would be a better place without religious dogma but I also think the freedom to think and express what you want is more important. These are liberal beliefs do you propose an alternative way of doing things?

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    travel the world a bit; you will see that as humans we all want the same basic things and most people are very ordinary. they just want to eat, sleep in peace, spend time with their family, run a business or build a career, etc..

    war will always bring out the worst in people and unfortunately much of the muslim world (14 countries in the last 30 years) has been bombed, attacked or invaded by the world police (USA & friends), so it's no surprise the crazies are taking over

    e.g. Iraq, the war which was based on BS, has killed over 100,000+ innocent civilians. Forget about the millions who will now grow up to hate the west and create massive issues 15 years from now...
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    Red face

    yh left wing ******* bashing christianity all the time (not religious but I belevie in God etc) = no single **** is given .
    say anything about islam = your islamphobe ,racist etc etc etc

    Show me Christians chopping heads off ,blowing up them self on daily basis all around the world etc and yelling Jesus Christ ??

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