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    Closest pre-workout to Craze?

    One of the beauties of Craze is the low caffeine. Is there anything close that still has low caffeine and gives close to craze levels focus an mood enhancement?
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    Nothing will compare to craze. With that being said you could look at neogenix neurosurge 3.0. Dosed at half a serving it will provide you with 150mg of caffeine for nice clean boost in energy, along with added nootropics for focus and Agmatine for them pumps.
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    DS frenzy ? I have not try this new pre workout but the review are good.
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    Originally Posted by shoefanatic23 View Post
    Nothing will compare to craze. With that being said you could look at neogenix neurosurge 3.0. Dosed at half a serving it will provide you with 150mg of caffeine for nice clean boost in energy, along with added nootropics for focus and Agmatine for them pumps.
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    Originally Posted by shoefanatic23 View Post
    Nothing will compare to craze. With that being said you could look at neogenix neurosurge 3.0. Dosed at half a serving it will provide you with 150mg of caffeine for nice clean boost in energy, along with added nootropics for focus and Agmatine for them pumps.
    I wouldnt mind giving neurosurge a shot. What specific nootropics are you referring to?

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    Originally Posted by husker3in4 View Post
    I wouldnt mind giving neurosurge a shot. What specific nootropics are you referring to?

    VicMackey92: I would love to try Frenzy, but I cant get it in the US.
    I think the ingredient on frenzy who give the energy etc... is amp , maybe try a amp product.
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    4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate is what Genomyx AMP Citrate is labeled as, the "Pouchung Tea" (which might just be AMP by a different name) is the novel stim in Frenzy but are you really going to buy a pre workout based on how much it enhances your mood?
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    Originally Posted by husker3in4 View Post
    One of the beauties of Craze is the low caffeine. Is there anything close that still has low caffeine and gives close to craze levels focus an mood enhancement?
    No, not really.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    This is the profile for "Frenzy" SRS Wattage Proprietary Blend 4.9g
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    4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate is what Genomyx AMP Citrate is labeled as, the "Pouchung Tea" (which might just be AMP by a different name) is the novel stim in Frenzy but are you really going to buy a pre workout based on how much it enhances your mood?
    the lack of safety data is why I don't use amp product.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    This is the profile for "Frenzy" SRS Wattage Proprietary Blend 4.9g
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    4-Amino-2-Methylpentane Citrate is what Genomyx AMP Citrate is labeled as, the "Pouchung Tea" (which might just be AMP by a different name) is the novel stim in Frenzy but are you really going to buy a pre workout based on how much it enhances your mood?
    Yes actually. Craze never made me pissed off, but i got great focus and mood, which made me feel like i could keep going. such a positive energy flow.
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    Yes actually. Craze never made me pissed off, but i got great focus and mood, which made me feel like i could keep going. such a positive energy flow.
    Are you aware of why it had that effect?
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    Originally Posted by husker3in4 View Post
    One of the beauties of Craze is the low caffeine. Is there anything close that still has low caffeine and gives close to craze levels focus an mood enhancement?
    Low in caffeine..but loaded with other stimulants. It's not the caffeine that gave you that insane focus.
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    Originally Posted by husker3in4 View Post
    Yes actually. Craze never made me pissed off, but i got great focus and mood, which made me feel like i could keep going. such a positive energy flow.
    Do you even know why Craze doesn't exist anymore?
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    Do you even know why Craze doesn't exist anymore?
    i want low caffeine but i am okay with amphetamine analogues
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    i want low caffeine but i am okay with amphetamine analogues
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    One of the beauties of Craze is the low caffeine. Is there anything close that still has low caffeine and gives close to craze levels focus an mood enhancement?


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    Originally Posted by xLGx View Post
    Do you even know why Craze doesn't exist anymore?
    Comments like this always make me laugh people were getting amazing workouts on craze. Even when people knew what was in it they were stocking up before it disapeared. No one forces people to buy it but if it was around now id probably use it even after knowing what was in it.
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    Originally Posted by Lif3l3ss View Post
    Comments like this always make me laugh people were getting amazing workouts on craze. Even when people knew what was in it they were stocking up before it disapeared. No one forces people to buy it but if it was around now id probably use it even after knowing what was in it.
    That's why companies can still employ these shady practices.
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    Never tried Craze, but for a low caffeine pre that still delivers a good amount of energy, i really like Conquer.
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    Originally Posted by husker3in4 View Post
    One of the beauties of Craze is the low caffeine. Is there anything close that still has low caffeine and gives close to craze levels focus an mood enhancement?
    Well what you would do to achieve the same pre workout is find another low caffeine pre or just ingest a low caffeine dosage which would replicate your craze, then you acquire or synthesize an amphetamine analogue (one of many) (if you want the exact feelz, it would be N,alpha-di-ethylphenylethylamine). This would replicate your analogue.

    Nothing else would give you anything to what craze does
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Low caff focus products
    Katana 230mg caff, amazing profile for focus, endurance & pumps
    Defcon 1 180mg caff but hits hard and keeps u dialed in
    How it defcon with energy and focus do you think it's very good. Considering in trying later.
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    Originally Posted by PTBAW View Post
    How it defcon with energy and focus do you think it's very good. Considering in trying later.
    Closest focus I've felt to craze without the drug like feel. Looking at the profile , the way the product feels & amount of energy it provides just seems too good to be true. I really hope that it's not spike. It gives nice energy, focus & mood boost. Pumps you may decide on your own
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Closest focus I've felt to craze without the drug like feel. Looking at the profile , the way the product feels & amount of energy it provides just seems too good to be true. I really hope that it's not spike. It gives nice energy, focus & mood boost. Pumps you may decide on your own
    Thanks man really appreciate your opinion
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    Originally Posted by PTBAW View Post
    Thanks man really appreciate your opinion
    God damn you are huge
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    Originally Posted by VicMackey92 View Post
    DS frenzy ? I have not try this new pre workout but the review are good.

    I have tried this a couple of times and it did nothing for me either time, its crap in my opinion and not worth wasting your time nor money on I still use Craze and have tried allot of pre's trying to find something to replace it once I run out and I cant say that I found anything even close for obvious reason's . Of all the ones I have tried I would say that I like Applied Nutriceuticals Uncut the best. Good luck.
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