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    Question Pushups? Really?

    So I know that pushups can also work your back obviously, but how much do they really work out, what parts of your back, are they usefull for back? I am asking because right now I am on vacation and have no access to equipment. I also know pull ups are good, but no access either. Help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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    They work triceps, chest, and shoulders if there is back work its very minimal.
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    push-ups will do next to nothing for your back
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    Originally Posted by Nitsua24 View Post
    push-ups will do next to nothing for your back
    Got any other bodyweight workouts or tips?
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    brb curls for quads?
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    Originally Posted by fu3rry99 View Post
    Got any other bodyweight workouts or tips?
    pull ups and dips >>>>>>>
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    Originally Posted by TonyJH View Post
    pull ups and dips >>>>>>>
    I will try dips but id rather go with pull ups
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    i can do probably more pushups than you
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    Originally Posted by CoolMan1999 View Post
    i can do probably more pushups than you
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    has the superiority complex of a little kid, feels he needs to prove himself

    OP, don't just stick to one exercise. get good at multiple different movements if you have the opportunity to, you'll thank me later.
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    Originally Posted by TonyJH View Post
    lold
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    has the superiority complex of a little kid, feels he needs to prove himself

    OP, don't just stick to one exercise. get good at multiple different movements if you have the opportunity to, you'll thank me later.
    lmao this, lost it
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    Originally Posted by fu3rry99 View Post
    Got any other bodyweight workouts or tips?
    Pull-ups and inverted rows. For however many pushups you do, try to do as many rows to keep a good muscle balance and good posture.
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    Originally Posted by TonyJH View Post
    lold
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    OP, don't just stick to one exercise. get good at multiple different movements if you have the opportunity to, you'll thank me later.
    He was probably just joking around or something.
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    Read "Building the gymnastic bodies" and "Convict conditioning"

    There is a crap ton of bodyweight exercises bro, if this is the route you are going you need to learn how to build a routine and realize you will be changing the variations of each exercises like damn near every month to keep progressing.
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    Originally Posted by IDefineMyself View Post
    Read "Building the gymnastic bodies" and "Convict conditioning"

    There is a crap ton of bodyweight exercises bro, if this is the route you are going you need to learn how to build a routine and realize you will be changing the variations of each exercises like damn near every month to keep progressing.
    Not to contradict you or anything but I think Project: Kratos is more informative and has more progressive levels needed for all people. For example, I tried using Convict Conditioning to progress to pistol squats, but it only explored one way to go about it and one of the steps is too far of a jump and so I couldn't do it lol.

    www.baye.com/store/project-kratos/

    It has 'level protocols' for each big exercise (e.g. push-ups, dips, chin-ups, squats etc.) to continue progression over a LONG period of time. It has 5 levels, and once you reach level 5 you switch to the heavier exercise that trains the same muscles where you start from level 1 again (e.g. once you reach level 5 chin-ups, you switch to level-1 one arm chin ups). It goes through all of this:
    General Exercise Guidelines, Speed of Movement and Turnarounds, Breathing, Neutral Head and Neck Position, Exertional Discomfort versus Pain, Momentary Muscular Failure (MMF), The Five Level Dynamic Protocol, Range of Motion, Timing, The Timing and ROM Matrix, Modifying Leverage for Short ROM Exercises, Bilateral to Unilateral Progressions, Determining Your Starting Level, Changing Levels during an Exercise, Isometrics, Static Holds, Timed Static Contraction (TSC), Self-Timing Static Holds and Timed Static Contractions, Exercise Progressions, Pre-Exhaustion, Isochronal Progression, Couples and Small Group Training, The Workouts, Exercise Selection, Basic Workout Structure, Specialization Workouts, Workout Volume and Frequency, Workout Names, What You Need, Basic Bodyweight Training Setup, Buying Bodyweight Equipment, DIY Bodyweight Equipment, Kratos (The Basic Workout), Chin-Up, TSC Pullover, TSC Arm Curl, Push-Up, Squat, Unilateral Squat, Inverted Row, TSC Simple Row, Pike Push-Up, TSC Lateral Raise, Prone Trunk Extension, Crunch, Upper versus Lower Abs, Heel Raise, TSC Neck Extension, TSC Neck Flexion, Zelus (The Alternate Basic Workout), Wide-Grip Pull-Up, Parallel Bar Dip, Triceps Push-Up, Lunge, Underhand-Grip Row, Half-Handstand Push-Up, Hip Raise, Leg Raise, TSC Neck Lateral Flexion, Infimetric Neck Rotation, Cerberus (The 3×3 Workout), 3×3 Workouts for Small Group Training, Heracles (Alternate 3×3 Workout), Inverted Curl, Body Part Specialization Workouts, Ares (Arms and Shoulders), Zeus (Chest and Back), TSC Chest Fly, Hermes (Legs), UXS Leg Curl, UXS Leg Extension, Bia (Glutes and Thighs), TSC Hip ADduction, TSC Hip ABduction, Adonis (Abs and Obliques), Hanging Reverse Crunch, Plank, Prone Trunk Rotation, Hanging Trunk Rotation, Side Plank, Grip and Forearm Exercises, Diet and Supplements, Losing Fat, Building Muscle, Supplements, The ECA Stack and Yohimbine, Tracking Progress, Weight, Body Composition, Body Part Circumference Measurements, Comparison Photography, Workout Charts, Diet, Online Resources, Workout and Measurement Charts, Bodyweight Exercise Equipment, Useful Smart Phone and Tablet Apps.

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    Since you said you have no equipment...

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    All I do is pushups.
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    Originally Posted by NotSoFitGuy View Post
    Not to contradict you or anything but I think Project: Kratos is more informative and has more progressive levels needed for all people. For example, I tried using Convict Conditioning to progress to pistol squats, but it only explored one way to go about it and one of the steps is too far of a jump and so I couldn't do it lol.

    www.baye.com/store/project-kratos/

    It has 'level protocols' for each big exercise (e.g. push-ups, dips, chin-ups, squats etc.) to continue progression over a LONG period of time. It has 5 levels, and once you reach level 5 you switch to the heavier exercise that trains the same muscles where you start from level 1 again (e.g. once you reach level 5 chin-ups, you switch to level-1 one arm chin ups). It goes through all of this:
    General Exercise Guidelines, Speed of Movement and Turnarounds, Breathing, Neutral Head and Neck Position, Exertional Discomfort versus Pain, Momentary Muscular Failure (MMF), The Five Level Dynamic Protocol, Range of Motion, Timing, The Timing and ROM Matrix, Modifying Leverage for Short ROM Exercises, Bilateral to Unilateral Progressions, Determining Your Starting Level, Changing Levels during an Exercise, Isometrics, Static Holds, Timed Static Contraction (TSC), Self-Timing Static Holds and Timed Static Contractions, Exercise Progressions, Pre-Exhaustion, Isochronal Progression, Couples and Small Group Training, The Workouts, Exercise Selection, Basic Workout Structure, Specialization Workouts, Workout Volume and Frequency, Workout Names, What You Need, Basic Bodyweight Training Setup, Buying Bodyweight Equipment, DIY Bodyweight Equipment, Kratos (The Basic Workout), Chin-Up, TSC Pullover, TSC Arm Curl, Push-Up, Squat, Unilateral Squat, Inverted Row, TSC Simple Row, Pike Push-Up, TSC Lateral Raise, Prone Trunk Extension, Crunch, Upper versus Lower Abs, Heel Raise, TSC Neck Extension, TSC Neck Flexion, Zelus (The Alternate Basic Workout), Wide-Grip Pull-Up, Parallel Bar Dip, Triceps Push-Up, Lunge, Underhand-Grip Row, Half-Handstand Push-Up, Hip Raise, Leg Raise, TSC Neck Lateral Flexion, Infimetric Neck Rotation, Cerberus (The 3×3 Workout), 3×3 Workouts for Small Group Training, Heracles (Alternate 3×3 Workout), Inverted Curl, Body Part Specialization Workouts, Ares (Arms and Shoulders), Zeus (Chest and Back), TSC Chest Fly, Hermes (Legs), UXS Leg Curl, UXS Leg Extension, Bia (Glutes and Thighs), TSC Hip ADduction, TSC Hip ABduction, Adonis (Abs and Obliques), Hanging Reverse Crunch, Plank, Prone Trunk Rotation, Hanging Trunk Rotation, Side Plank, Grip and Forearm Exercises, Diet and Supplements, Losing Fat, Building Muscle, Supplements, The ECA Stack and Yohimbine, Tracking Progress, Weight, Body Composition, Body Part Circumference Measurements, Comparison Photography, Workout Charts, Diet, Online Resources, Workout and Measurement Charts, Bodyweight Exercise Equipment, Useful Smart Phone and Tablet Apps.

    The most informative bodyweight exercise book imo.
    Sounds like a good read i'll check it out. I don't think the progressions are meant to be taken literally, I always say you gotta be creative with your progressions personally lol. Long as you make it tougher.
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    Sounds like a good read i'll check it out. I don't think the progressions are meant to be taken literally, I always say you gotta be creative with your progressions personally lol. Long as you make it tougher.
    Yeah, but a lot of people say bodyweight training 'runs out' of overload options very quickly. I disagree. With a creative mind you can think of ways to constantly make a bodyweight exercise more difficult. But at the same time I don't like the "BODYWEIGHT ONLY, EXTRA WEIGHTS ARE FORBIDDEN CUS LOGIC!". Adding a weighted backpack never hurt anyone, and training traps optimally does require weights = nothing beats a super heavy rack pull shrug with straps around the barbell. May as well combine both bodyweight and weights. But the constant need to perform bodyweight exercises so strictly to make them challenging is something that can carry over to lifting weights imo.
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    OP:
    Do some bridges, practice your lever if you got a pull up type bar or 2 poles nearby, really anything you can find while on vacation, could be as simple as using a tree branch. Pullups of course, which you can do on the door of the hotel.

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    Pretty much. I mean with bodyweight training I learned everything isn't so "By the books" and strict. I don't think weights are needed personally but they definitely shouldn't be forbidden lol my traps are SERIOUSLY lagging due to not knowing any bodyweight exercises for them(besides shrugs from a dip bar). 1 thing weightlifting truly has over bodyweight training, is i can't find a fcking workout partner for bodyweight training LOL
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    Originally Posted by JonV10 View Post
    All I do is pushups.
    doesn't work if you dont have dat B B C
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    Originally Posted by IDefineMyself View Post
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    Pretty much. I mean with bodyweight training I learned everything isn't so "By the books" and strict. I don't think weights are needed personally but they definitely shouldn't be forbidden lol my traps are SERIOUSLY lagging due to not knowing any bodyweight exercises for them(besides shrugs from a dip bar). 1 thing weightlifting truly has over bodyweight training, is i can't find a fcking workout partner for bodyweight training LOL
    http://www.thebodyweightfiles.blogsp...t-weights.html

    Also, my way of training traps without dumbbell or barbell is wear a weighted backpacks (one on your back and one on your front so you dont fall back or fourth, and to hit your traps better) and shrug. Might be uncomfortable but hey, I tried it and it works...at least, it feels like it works.
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    do different varitions of pushups, diamond, incline, decline, upside down doggystyle, chandelier, weighted using a backpack and whatever you want inside. Dips are good, just get 2 chairs and use that
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    Originally Posted by IDefineMyself View Post
    OP:
    Do some bridges, practice your lever if you got a pull up type bar or 2 poles nearby, really anything you can find while on vacation, could be as simple as using a tree branch. Pullups of course, which you can do on the door of the hotel.

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    Pretty much. I mean with bodyweight training I learned everything isn't so "By the books" and strict. I don't think weights are needed personally but they definitely shouldn't be forbidden lol my traps are SERIOUSLY lagging due to not knowing any bodyweight exercises for them(besides shrugs from a dip bar). 1 thing weightlifting truly has over bodyweight training, is i can't find a fcking workout partner for bodyweight training LOL
    Ha thanks! Yeah I found a park thats really close by and I figured I would just use the bars there for pull ups, im going tomorrow, so I will see how that goes, considering its an old looking park
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    [QUOTE=NotSoFitGuy;

    Also, my way of training traps without dumbbell or barbell is wear a weighted backpacks (one on your back and one on your front so you dont fall back or fourth, and to hit your traps better) and shrug. Might be uncomfortable but hey, I tried it and it works...at least, it feels like it works.[/QUOTE] I used dumbells for working my traps, they used to be less noticable but now they are showing preety well, although for a lack of equiptment, a weighted backpack sounds preety damn good!
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