So... just switched from AMD to Intel

[jerzyfit]

Bruhs... I was a firm believer I wouldn't see that much of a difference, but I was wrong. Picked up the I5 4670K OCd to 4.0 right now. From a long-time AMD guy, if you have the extra cash, do it!

[ImJJames]

Bruhs... I was a firm believer I wouldn't see that much of a difference, but I was wrong. Picked up the I5 4670K OCd to 4.0 right now. From a long-time AMD guy, if you have the extra cash, do it!

AMD is for budget builds..of course you will see a difference you're paying $100+ more.

[jerzyfit]

AMD is for budget builds..of course you will see a difference you're paying $100+ more.

Not really. I5 is 20 bucks more than the 8350 lol.

[Kharig]

die hard intel/nvidia fanboy checking in

[jerzyfit]

die hard intel/nvidia fanboy checking in

I'm officially a fanboy lmao. I got this CPU and I'm running two 660's SLI'd

[SeventhSin]

What differences are you seeing? FPS difference or..

[TrancePhreak07]

What AMD CPU did you upgrade from?

Edit: Nevermind I see it was the 8350.

[ImJJames]

Not really. I5 is 20 bucks more than the 8350 lol.

Depends what you're using the computer for. Not everyone uses the computer just for gaming. 8350 outperforms I5 in most application benchmarks.

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=837

8350 is also more overclockable than a I5, intels new TIM hurts overclocking performance.

Also for multi-threaded applications 8350 rapes 4670k.

And for gaming I can purchase a FX 6300 for $110 with same GPU as a intel with 4670k and you will probably see 1-2 FPS difference. (Cool you spent $120 more for 1-2 FPS difference gg) You need to go up about 7 performance brackets with your graphics card before CPU becomes a bottleneck.

CPU's are so advance now that CPU will rarely ever be a bottleneck in gaming. GPU 99% of the time will be the bottleneck when gaming.

Also strong "OMG I SEE A DIFFERENCE" without telling us what AMD chip you coming from, or what difference exactly are you seeing. Strong everything

[mmmabs]

Depends what you're using the computer for. Not everyone uses the computer just for gaming. 8350 outperforms I5 in most application benchmarks.

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=837

8350 is also more overclockable than a I5, intels new TIM hurts overclocking performance.

Also for multi-threaded applications 8350 rapes 4670k.

And for gaming I can purchase a FX 6300 for $110 with same GPU as a intel with 4670k and you will probably see 1-2 FPS difference. (Cool you spent $120 more for 1-2 FPS difference gg)

CPU's are so advance now that CPU will rarely ever be a bottleneck in gaming. GPU 99% of the time will be the bottleneck when gaming.

Also strong "OMG I SEE A DIFFERENCE" without telling us what AMD chip you coming from, or what difference exactly are you seeing. Strong everything

here u see kids, an amd fanboy

so true about the overclocking man overclocked my 8320 3.5 ghz to 4.3 just by switching multiplier

[jerzyfit]

Depends what you're using the computer for. Not everyone uses the computer just for gaming. 8350 outperforms I5 in most application benchmarks.

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=837

8350 is also more overclockable than a I5, intels new TIM hurts overclocking performance.

Also for multi-threaded applications 8350 rapes 4670k.

And for gaming I can purchase a FX 6300 for $110 with same GPU as a intel with 4670k and you will probably see 1-2 FPS difference. (Cool you spent $120 more for 1-2 FPS difference gg) You need to go up about 7 performance brackets with your graphics card before CPU becomes a bottleneck.

CPU's are so advance now that CPU will rarely ever be a bottleneck in gaming. GPU 99% of the time will be the bottleneck when gaming.

Also strong "OMG I SEE A DIFFERENCE" without telling us what AMD chip you coming from, or what difference exactly are you seeing. Strong everything

LMAO thank you for the rant but uh... I didn't need to know how hurt your but was.

[jerzyfit]

What differences are you seeing? FPS difference or..

Big difference on everything. Games a good 20 FPS or more and everythings just genuinely faster on everyday use stuff.

[reyes12]

good purchase, them 4000 series intel chips are powerful.

its a big difference to me in budget, brah! I'm also a smart shopper when it comes to budget gaming.


brb fx6300 for 90 bucks OEM on ebay. saved myself 100+ bucks since I already had AMD mobo as well that I only paid 99 bucks for 3 years ago. things OC'd to 4.7ghz, no problems here.

Waiting for intel skylake and DDR4 ram before I do any upgrading again.

[MyMiscAccount]

Depends what you're using the computer for.

Intel (16 cores) costing 6 times more than AMD (6 cores) but only performing a few minutes better. Imagine using a cheaper 16 core AMD, it'll rape that intel processor in rendering while being cheaper.
http://www.rect.coreto-europe.com/ca...rkstation.html

what AMD CPU were you using before this and what do you use your computer for aside gaming?

[jmonty]

I doing there is a differencedifference most of the time but good for you.

My phenom ii is still going strong, paired with a new 7950 it plays everything maxed and opens chrome up like a boss.

[Azzurri]

The last time I used an AMD CPU in my build was over 10 years ago with the Athlon 64. One of the best CPU's ever.

[ImJJames]

LMAO thank you for the rant but uh... I didn't need to know how hurt your but was.

No one is butt-hurt. Just stating facts meanwhile you have none

Big difference on everything. Games a good 20 FPS or more and everythings just genuinely faster on everyday use stuff.

You must of came from a old AMD generation chip. Like I stated on my post before, no modern AMD chip ($110+) will be a bottleneck in gaming.

[surf junkie]

reporting in


i5 3570k (4ghz oc)

GTX 660




no problems to report here, performance is great.


Haswell hasn't impressed me at all. Waiting for Broadwell before even considering a different CPU.

[Nara62629]

Depends what you're using the computer for. Not everyone uses the computer just for gaming. 8350 outperforms I5 in most application benchmarks.

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=837

8350 is also more overclockable than a I5, intels new TIM hurts overclocking performance.

Also for multi-threaded applications 8350 rapes 4670k.

And for gaming I can purchase a FX 6300 for $110 with same GPU as a intel with 4670k and you will probably see 1-2 FPS difference. (Cool you spent $120 more for 1-2 FPS difference gg) You need to go up about 7 performance brackets with your graphics card before CPU becomes a bottleneck.

CPU's are so advance now that CPU will rarely ever be a bottleneck in gaming. GPU 99% of the time will be the bottleneck when gaming.

Also strong "OMG I SEE A DIFFERENCE" without telling us what AMD chip you coming from, or what difference exactly are you seeing. Strong everything

out of the 14 benchmarks listed, its better in 7 of them...even in the multi-threaded benchmarks its not a clear winner over the i5. you might wanna actually look at the link you provide to back up your claims.

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/446..._i5-4670K.html
FX is 2% better in multi-threaded applications. and the i5 is 53% better in single threaded applications. yes it costs more, but thats what you're paying for. and IMO its worth it.

I'm not even a fan boy, but the state of CPUs right now, the only reason i'd buy an AMD chip is probably a really low budget build where I might want 4 cores instead of 2. you can at least debate the FX vs the i3's.

[ImJJames]

out of the 14 benchmarks listed, its better in 7 of them...even in the multi-threaded benchmarks its not a clear winner over the i5. you might wanna actually look at the link you provide to back up your claims

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/446..._i5-4670K.html
FX is 2% better in multi-threaded applications. and the i5 is 53% better in single threaded applications. yes it costs more, but thats what you're paying for. and IMO its worth it.

I'm not even a fan boy, but the state of CPUs right now, the only reason i'd buy an AMD chip is probably a really low budget build where I might want 4 cores instead of 2. you can at least debate the FX vs the i3's.

First of all you must be blind. There are 19 listed and 8350 wins 14 of them. People who run multi-threaded applications and heavy multitasking will get more benefit from a 8350 than a i5 4670k. FACT. Of course Intels wins in single threaded applications, the point I was trying to make is not everyone uses there PC just for gaming.

Also watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

[ImJJames]

Why the fuc would someone buy a 4670k for multi threaded applications.. there is an i7 4770k for that.. herp

Because OP started the comparison lol. Should read the thread.

[FGCHENG]

my Nvidia 9800GT has lasted me for 3+ years. Lets see if AMD 7950 can do the same.

Forever Intel CPU fanboy here.

[ImJJames]

my Nvidia 9800GT has lasted me for 3+ years. Lets see if AMD 7950 can do the same.

Forever Intel CPU fanboy here.

Why wouldn't a AMD GPU last more than 3 years? Jesus christ. This is the most idiotic rebuttal I have seen.

[Madsen89]

Been with AMD since 2006. Currently running an Athlon II x4 640 and no complaints for what I use it for.

[danssharo]

Nice side grade waste of money OP. Should have atleast gotten an i7. The money wasted on your new mobo/cpu you could have gotten a nice video card setup to run with your 8350.

[ImJJames]

Nice side grade waste of money OP. Should have atleast gotten an i7. The money wasted on your new mobo/cpu you could have gotten a nice video card setup to run with your 8350.

I'm 100% sure he did not have a 8350.

[Nara62629]

First of all you must be blind. There are 19 listed and 8350 wins 14 of them. People who run multi-threaded applications and heavy multitasking will get more benefit from a 8350 than a i5 4670k. FACT. Of course Intels wins in single threaded applications, the point I was trying to make is not everyone uses there PC just for gaming.

Also watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

ok i cant count there are 19...its still 7 out of 19...so yeah, makes my point the same...you gotta read the part that says "higher is better" or "lower is better".

anyways, yeah i agree not every uses their PC for gaming, but I'd still recommend most intel chips over AMD chips. and yeah, you're comparing an 8 core chip to a 4 core chip, that fact that it performs better in multi-thread should be obvious, but its not even that much better...

and yeah if we're talking about actually using all 8 cores, it can be better, but most ppl think gaming while alt+tabbing between 5 browser tabs and listening to music is multitasking. the amount of people that really can take advantage of lots of cores/HT/etc are small. I mean i bought a 2600k with a quadro 5500 GPU cuz I was using CAD, Revit, CS5, Studio Max and rendering a lot in school. I don't do a whole lot of it now, so I barely use my i7 to its full potential. except for maybe when i'm recording LoL games.

[danssharo]

I'm 100% sure he did not have a 8350.

LOL upgrades from 4 year old phenom. Becomes Intel fanboy because performance increase.

There is only a $20 difference in price if you have access to a microcenter which a majority of the country does not, and if you can buy from microcenter you better be getting an i7. So for the rest of us its a $60 difference. The performance between an i5 and an 8350 will be practically unnoticeable in games and browsing around windows, unless playing some poorly threaded 4 year old MMO.

Please don't spread misinformation. People read these threads and make purchases based off them.

[FGCHENG]

Why wouldn't a AMD GPU last more than 3 years? Jesus christ. This is the most idiotic rebuttal I have seen.

My bad I word it wrong. I merely said that my 9800GT lasted me for 3 years. I recently upgraded to AMD HD7950, and I hope it does the same.

[ImJJames]

ok i cant count there are 19...its still 7 out of 19...so yeah, makes my point the same...you gotta read the part that says "higher is better" or "lower is better".

anyways, yeah i agree not every uses their PC for gaming, but I'd still recommend most intel chips over AMD chips. and yeah, you're comparing an 8 core chip to a 4 core chip, that fact that it performs better in multi-thread should be obvious, but its not even that much better...

and yeah if we're talking about actually using all 8 cores, it can be better, but most ppl think gaming while alt+tabbing between 5 browser tabs and listening to music is multitasking. the amount of people that really can take advantage of lots of cores/HT/etc are small. I mean i bought a 2600k with a quadro 5500 GPU cuz I was using CAD, Revit, CS5, Studio Max and rendering a lot in school. I don't do a whole lot of it now, so I barely use my i7 to its full potential. except for maybe when i'm recording LoL games.

You're right I totally read those benchmarks wrong but my point still stands, for heavy multi-threaded apps 8350 is better. And if you watch that youtube video 8350 is on par with intel chips and even surpasses it on some for gaming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

LOL upgrades from 4 year old phenom. Becomes Intel fanboy because performance increase.

There is only a $20 difference in price if you have access to a microcenter which a majority of the country does not, and if you can buy from microcenter you better be getting an i7. So for the rest of us its a $60 difference. The performance between an i5 and an 8350 will be practically unnoticeable in games and browsing around windows, unless playing some poorly threaded 4 year old MMO.

Please don't spread misinformation. People read these threads and make purchases based off them.

Exactly, I think OP just wanted to brag he has a intel chip but instead it just showed how much he knows about CPU's. Nothing.

[danssharo]

Poor OP he doesn't know what he just started.

This will probably be 6pages when I get back from my ride lawl.