Based on what I've seen IRL and posted all over this forum, the main roadblock to one's continuation of training is the time factor; many posters complain that they "don't have/can't find time to train 3 (or 4, or however many) days a week. We both know that there's plenty of time in the day to invest an hour or so to lift weights a few times a week; it simply comes down to priorities. What's more important to me---improving my mind and body with structured, heavy exercise, or wasting my life with excessive TV viewing? To my mind, the decision is ridiculously easy.
You've already come this far; my guess is that you won't quit.
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Thread: Ironwill2008 V3.0
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06-05-2017, 11:28 AM #7021No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-05-2017, 11:49 AM #7022
- Join Date: May 2014
- Location: United States
- Age: 44
- Posts: 36,521
- Rep Power: 1366385
There are days where I am strapped for time due to work and I'll still run in and pump out a 45m session. Less rest, weights still the same and I am sore as a mother when I am done but I got my session in.
Your nutrition and workout program determines your success.
FL and NC crew. Lol @ living in PA. Just LOL.
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06-05-2017, 11:52 AM #7023No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-05-2017, 12:55 PM #7024
Ironwill2008 V3.0
Hi. I'm Sherman. I'd much rather be outdoors, surveying my vast empire, but it's pouring the rain, so I'm stuck inside. Bill's in the gym, doing whatever it is he does on these deload weeks.
http://columbuscockerrescue.com There are many dogs in desperate need of a good home. If you're not currently in a position to be able to provide a forever home to a Cocker (or any breed, for that matter), a donation would be a great help.
Sherman feels about the same as I do about rainy weather; we both can find plenty to do outdoors. But that'll have to wait for better weather; today is the first of 3 days of light (for me) workouts, using moderate weight for moderate reps in order to provide me with some additional recovery from the previous 3 weeks of heavy (for me) work in the gym. Today's training was:
Barbell Squat
bar x10 W/U
135x8 W/U
225x8
225x8
225x8
Wide-Grip Pulldown
90x10
90x10
90x10
Seated Dumbbell Press
20x10 W/U
50x8
50x8
50x8
Marched straight through here in about 25 minutes. I don't recommend ever Squatting outside of a properly-set-up power rack, but the bar was already on the liftoffs outside the rack (from some presses my wife had done earlier), so I just loaded up a few plates and did a few reps. Not much chance of me getting stuck at that weight. Anyway, this is a case of do as I recommened, not as I do.
Pulldowns with that wide bar aren't very friendly to my shoulders, so I don't do them other than during deloads when I'm using relatively light weight. I like the lat pump, just not the 'discomfort' I experience in my right shoulder. This is one that won't ever show up in my regular routine.
Pretty much the same deal with seated DB Presses, but not due to shoulders but rather my wonky grip; I don't trust the safety of my having anything much heavier lifted over my head/face. I really like this exercise though, and as I've said in the past here, I still may eventually bring this exercise into you regular routine at some point, but just run up the reps instead of using heavy dumbbells.
Nothing else to report. If it ever stops raining, I'll need to get the week's yard work done, hopefully tomorrow. I have a long list of mostly outdoor projects to complete this Summer, and I hate to have my hands tied due to bad weather. On Wednesday, I'll ease through another light workout.
Post-WorkOut meal was a couple of poached eggs on toast, bacon, a bowl of super-tasty cheese grits, and a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-07-2017, 02:00 PM #7025
Ironwill2008 V3.0
Sherman here, waiting near my dinner bowl for the Post-WorkOut meal. Bill always gives me a few bites. I'm hoping for steak, but I won't turn anything down.
http://columbuscockerrescue.com Please help if you're able.
This was the second of three light deload workouts for this week, and I'm glad to have the chance for some extra recovery. Today's training was:
Dumbbell Lunge
30x10 W/U
60x8
60x8
60x8
Dumbbell Row
30x10 W/U
60x8
60x8
60x8
Incline Flye
20x10 W/U
50x8
50x8
50x8
Rolled through here in about 25 minutes.Lunges had me wheezin a little, but the other two exercises didn't require me to take much between-set rest.
DB Rows are an excellent exercise and one I've always liked. They'll eventually become a part of my regular routine.
Same deal with Flyes on the Incline Bench; a great stretch and a good pec pump. Just have to make sure to be well-warmed-up before the work sets.
That's all I've got. The yard work was completed earlier today, so tomorrow I'll tackle the next project on my long list---repairing the actuator system that kicks the front axle into gear on my 4WD Chevy truck. Should be interesting, since I've never worked on it (the front axle) before. Then on Friday, I'll close out deload week with one more light session.
Post-WorkOut meal was a chicken/veggie/pasta bowl (with a boatload of fresh herbs straight out of the garden), garlic toast, and a glass of milk.
Last edited by ironwill2008; 06-09-2017 at 08:48 AM.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-08-2017, 09:22 AM #7026
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06-08-2017, 10:22 AM #7027
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06-08-2017, 01:25 PM #7028
I don't think he really cares as long as he gets something.
His main diet is Iams dry food, and we augment it with some of whatever we eat, at the end of our meals. He gets some protein, complex carbs and fat the same as us. We make sure he gets some fruit (no grapes or raisins) and veg (no onions); he loves everything except mushrooms; he won't touch 'em.
Lulz. Sherman is pretty much the same way, until he senses that the meal is nearing the end, and it's his turn; he gets antsy and starts making noises, I guess to make sure we don't forget him.
Dogs are just such wonderful critters; they make everything better just by being there.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-09-2017, 01:41 PM #7029
Ironwill2008 V3.0
ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
http://columbuscockerrescue.com Please help if you're able,
Sherman has the right idea, as always. Today's session was a coda to the week's light deload workouts; I use decreased loads and stick with moderate rep counts, all to give me some 'active rest' and allow my joints and attachments some additional recovery. Today's training was:
Deadlift
135x10 W/U
225x5
225x5
225x5
Alternate Dumbbell Curl
20x10 W/U
30x10
30x10
30x10
French Press
45x10 W/U
65x10
65x10
65x10
Rolled straight through here in about twenty minutes. Needed very little between-set rest, so that's how much I took. I hadn't pulled off the floor in a few weeks, so Deadlifts were an obvious choice for today. These will definitely make thier comeback into my regular routine this Fall or Winter.
Banged out three quick sets of DB Curls, got a good pump for my effort, and then moved on.
French Press finished off my upper arms; these never fail to blow up my triceps like baloons. This was actually the very first weight training exercise I ever learned, and have been doing them off and on for years now. A definite mass-builder.
Well, that's it. Got my truck back together yesterday; scratch one project off the (long) list; tomorrow, I start a new one---replacing the old ceiling light fixture over the kitchen sink with a couple of pendant lights. I'll return to regular training on Monday with Front Squats, Leg Presses, Chins, and Seated Press.
Post-WorkOut feast was a 13 oz New York Strip, a baked spud with butter, and a salad and glass of milk that didn't get in the pic. And yes, Sherman got some steak too.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-09-2017, 02:41 PM #7030
- Join Date: Apr 2013
- Location: Kansas, United States
- Age: 40
- Posts: 22,368
- Rep Power: 97617
20 minute workout followed by a steak and potatoes...man that workout must have been intense to warrant so many calories afterwards. hope you aren't too sore
haven't posted here in awhile and thought i'd poke my head back in.
you got any summer plans to travel or do anything exciting?Domicron's Basement Gym and Fun House
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=652376&p=1451901723&viewfull=1#post1451901723
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06-09-2017, 02:53 PM #7031
Raymond, what's up! I was joking the other day about Sherman hoping for steak, so I took myself up on the idea for today.
We take day trips a couple of times a month to visit my invalid SIL out of state, and occasionally a day trip to Amish Country in upper-Eastern Ohio. We haven't been to the beach in about 5years, so are planning a couple of weeks at Myrtle or Hilton Head, but won't go until Fall; far too hot and crowded there during the Summer for us. Past that, I've got a long list of home improvement and repair jobs and work on our three vehicles to keep me busier than I'd like.
How about you; any travel or home projects planned?No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-09-2017, 03:47 PM #7032
- Join Date: Apr 2013
- Location: Kansas, United States
- Age: 40
- Posts: 22,368
- Rep Power: 97617
never a bad day for steak. I need to dust off the grill now that it's hot outside.
We take day trips a couple of times a month to visit my invalid SIL out of state, and occasionally a day trip to Amish Country in upper-Eastern Ohio. We haven't been to the beach in about 5years, so are planning a couple of weeks at Myrtle or Hilton Head, but won't go until Fall; far too hot and crowded there during the Summer for us. Past that, I've got a long list of home improvement and repair jobs and work on our three vehicles to keep me busier than I'd like.
How about you; any travel or home projects planned?
Good luck on the home/vehicle repairs. We've been talking about remodeling the basement for awhile, but it seems we're too busy to sit down and think out what we want to do. I think what we're going to try and do for now is just clear out all the junk and setup either an office or move a living room downstairs so that we can get more sunlit play area for the kid during the day.
otherwise, just trying to hire enough people at work so i'm not so stressed out at the restaurant, haha.Domicron's Basement Gym and Fun House
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06-10-2017, 05:35 AM #7033
If you've never seen the ocean (either one), you owe it to yourself to at some point put your family in the car, get to the coast, stand on the beach, and listen to the waves.
Good luck on the home/vehicle repairs. We've been talking about remodeling the basement for awhile, but it seems we're too busy to sit down and think out what we want to do. I think what we're going to try and do for now is just clear out all the junk and setup either an office or move a living room downstairs so that we can get more sunlit play area for the kid during the day.
otherwise, just trying to hire enough people at work so i'm not so stressed out at the restaurant, haha.
I'm aware of the trials of hiring/firing workers; I ran an auto parts store for about 4 years back in the day. When you have good people working for you, things always go well.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-10-2017, 06:01 AM #7034
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06-10-2017, 06:20 AM #7035
All pics looking just solid
We're heading to Mrytle Beach in August with the kids. I've never been there except for a 1 night stop on the way to Florida. Do you have any restaurant recommendations? We are all big seafood fans. Kids are really looking forward to it. I'm thinking about how busy it's going to be like you said I'm sure we'll make the most of it though.365 255 480 in April! ...2019
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06-10-2017, 07:38 AM #7036
Thanks, Dave. I'm working hard to keep inching forward.
We're heading to Mrytle Beach in August with the kids. I've never been there except for a 1 night stop on the way to Florida. Do you have any restaurant recommendations? We are all big seafood fans. Kids are really looking forward to it. I'm thinking about how busy it's going to be like you said I'm sure we'll make the most of it though.
It's going to be hot there in August, with lots of traffic; you'll want to get your car checked out before you leave, with a close look at the belts, hoses, and your air conditioning system.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-12-2017, 09:11 AM #7037
Sorry I missed this post, earlier, Steve.
Geez; Viet Nam. Memory fades in 47 years, but I still remember driving convoys through Saigon (as it was named back then), and the ridiculous, snarled traffic of mopeds and bicycles along with the few small autos and the occasional ARVN military vehicles. I'd be curious to see how that city looks today; I'd imagine it to be quite a bit different now.
Enjoy your vacation; if you get to Viet Nam, be sure to take plenty of pics.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-12-2017, 11:23 AM #7038
The flight I am booking is going to Oceana. Fiji specifically. I have been planning on taking my girl there for several years now. It is finally going to happen later this summer.
The thing in planning a trip like this is how best to get there. A Swiss friend of mine makes the trip to Asia and Oceana a few times a year on business. His recommendation was to book the entire flight through one carrier.
One of the carriers I looked at stops in Vietnam, the other stops in Japan. I will wait until a little closer to the trip to decide which is the best deal.
Anyway, my friend has flown into both Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City. He said Vietnam was the hottest darn place he's ever been.
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06-12-2017, 12:18 PM #7039
I certainly remember the heat and the humidity. Among my strongest memories of that time was the night I arrived in-country in Cam Rahn Bay at about 2:30 AM Viet Nam time. The doors on the plane opened, and suddenly, the air-conditioned interior of the plane was swept by the over 100-degree outside heat (at 2:30 AM!), and an oppressive humidity.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-12-2017, 12:40 PM #7040
Ironwill2008 V3.0
Got things off to a good start today, holding my own on most lifts, adding a rep on one. Today's training was;
Front Squat
bar x10 W/U
95x8 W/U
135x8
165x8
185x8
225x5
Leg Press PWO
580x12 W/U
670x12
760x12
850x9 heh-vee
Chinup
bw +55x6
bw +55x6
bw +55x4
Smith Machine Seated Press
95x10 W/U
165x6
165x5
165x4
The session was completed in an hour and a quarter. Fronts didn't move up, but I was happy just to have repeatred my previous numbers. Still working to get 2 plates up to 8 reps; it's going to tkae a while.
I was able to add a rep to the top set of Leg Presses, and that's a major accomplishment IMO. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it. It'll be a task just to meet this number next week.
That extra rep I managed to get in Chins a couple weeks back was nowhere to be found today, but I'll gladly settle for previous numbers.
Press also didn't increase, but like the other lifts in this session, I'm pretty much at limit. I'll have to consider a sub for these in the near future.
Nothing else relevant to add. After a rest day tomorrow that will very likely not include a lot of 'rest," I'll head back to the gym for a go at Lunges, Cable Rows, and Incline Presses on Wednesday.
Post-WorkOut meal was a half-dozen eggs, bacon, fried spuds, grits with butter, toast, and a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-12-2017, 01:08 PM #7041
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06-12-2017, 01:10 PM #7042No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-14-2017, 04:53 AM #7043
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06-14-2017, 05:31 AM #7044No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-14-2017, 12:54 PM #7045
Ironwill2008 V3.0
A good day of training saw me reach one of my goals while keeping everything else on the up and up. Today's training was:
Barbell Lunge
bar x10 W/U
95x5 W/U
135x3
185x3
225x3
275x1 heh-vee, but didn't kill me
V-Grip Seated Row PWO
90x10 W/U
180x10
180x10
180x8
Smith Machine Incline Press
95x10 W/U
135x10
165x10
210x7
Burned an hour while performing this work. I've been working towards getting back to 275 on Lunges for several months now, and finally got there today. The 2-plate set was butter; I hardly felt the bar on my back, so I knew I'd get my scheduled single @275. I might have been able to stretch it into a double, but discretion is the better part of valor, so I'll stick to my progression scheme, and work on the double next week. The single definitely let me know the bar was there, but it didn't feel like it was gonna crush me into the floor.
Reps remained the same for Cable Rows as I work toward 3x10. I'm probably going to change this exercise out in the near future, either to Barbell Rows or Dumbbell Rows.
Inclines remained the same, but considering I'm pretty much at limit on them, I'll take what I got for today.
Fini. After a rest day tomorrow, I'll conclude the week's training on Friday with RDLs, Curls, and Dips.
Post-WorkOut meal was a beef/veggie/pasta bowl with homemade marinara and fresh herbs, a tasty salad, and a glass of milk.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-15-2017, 03:50 AM #7046
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06-15-2017, 07:55 AM #7047
Lulz. That's mine too, Tom.
That's an interesting thread in the O35 about 'older' trainees, very much unlike the usual, bull****, "Am I too old to lift weights???" nonsense so often seen posted. It made me stop and think about how my training has changed this past 5 years or so. Other than scaling back on the volume, pretty much everything else has remained about the same.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-15-2017, 08:00 AM #7048
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06-15-2017, 09:44 AM #7049
I think that for those who at least took the time and effort to join this site and post a thread----for non-trolls anyway; and they're easy to sniff out----it might not be excuses, but rather just not having any idea of how consistently hard one must work while sticking to a proper nutrition plan, in order to build muscle/strength. Just the other day, a guy posting in the O35 about his lack of progress stated he'd been training for 3 years, and said he worked harder than most others he saw in his gym, yet when asked about his lifts, he was only Squatting a plate, and Deadlifting not much more than that. After three years.
And the threads by noobs who state they eat "clean," or who post a menu when asked about their calorie/macro intake are seen almost by the minute. There's just a general lack of understanding of what's required to build a decent physique, and this is brought on by a vast number of reasons, from TV knuckleads to youtube idiots, to morons posting right here on this site---a few who are regulars in the O35 who couldn't find their own ass with both hands in the dark. Most beginners show up here already having been bombarded with the idea they can build muscle by jumping around in their living room with a pair of pink dumbbells "only 20 minutes a day, 3 days a week," and buying a jug of some goofy pills or powder for $69.95/month----automatic order renew, of course.
It's very difficult to try to persuade most of these people that their preconceived notions are totally wrong; that puts lots of beginners off, but the truth is the truth. There is the occasional beginner posting here who takes good advice, applies it religiously, and then gets it figured out, but that guy is few and far between. Mostly, such posters never return after that first thread.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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06-15-2017, 09:55 AM #7050
So true. A lot of people, beginner especially, just don't realize factors like a.) they're eating too little, or b.) they're eating too much, or c.) they aren't training hard or consistent enough etc etc. People tend to really believe that they are doing things right, and rather than research more and try different things, they'll spin their wheels doing the same things day in and day out without success until finally they give up.
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