Driven Sports products dropped from bodybuilding.com?

[P3TrainingP3]

Activate Xtreme and Triazole are no longer available for purchase in the cyberstore. With Craze being the only other product carried in the cyberstore from DS - does anyone have any information on this recent company severing?

[aaronuconn]

More information will be revealed in the future it seems, but I don't think any of us can give you a 100% answer.

[P3TrainingP3]

Thanks aaronuconn, I appreciate the quick response!

[aaronuconn]

Thanks aaronuconn, I appreciate the quick response!

Sorry it's not the direct answer you're looking for.

[rkeane5]

I emailed bodybuilding.com and they told me they have ended there relationship with driven sports at this point and time.

[aaronuconn]

I emailed bodybuilding.com and they told me they have ended there relationship with driven sports at this point and time.

Well, that's about the best answer any of us can provide.

[kissdadookie]

I emailed bodybuilding.com and they told me they have ended there relationship with driven sports at this point and time.

Possible liability issues: avoided. Well played bb.com.

[P3TrainingP3]

Sorry it's not the direct answer you're looking for.

Haha well a short, to the point and quick response from a reputable member so I appreciate it nonetheless!

I emailed bodybuilding.com and they told me they have ended there relationship with driven sports at this point and time.

Well, that's about the best answer any of us can provide.

If that is the case then yes indeed - the best answer anyone could provide. Did you send an e-mail out recently rkeane5? Those products couldn't have been missing for more than a couple days I was just visiting the page earlier this week IIRC.

[stan47islav]

It just happened in a matter of a couple weeks.....

[rkeane5]

I emailed them on the August 23 and they responded later that day

[P3TrainingP3]

It just happened in a matter of a couple weeks.....

My mistake, I was just referring to the AX and TZ. I have been following the Craze Conundrum for quite some time now.

[P3TrainingP3]

I emailed them on the August 23 and they responded later that day

Thanks, rkeane5!

[Terrimonas]

Since being raided back in 2009 as part of an investigation into illegal marketing and distribution of anabolic steroids, and unapproved/misbranded new drugs fraudulently sold as dietary supplements, bb.com has been cautious about being associated with companies potentially doing shady **** like the allegations made about adulterated Craze.

[P3TrainingP3]

Since being raided back in 2009 as part of an investigation into illegal marketing and distribution of anabolic steroids, and unapproved/misbranded new drugs fraudulently sold as dietary supplements, bb.com has been cautious about being associated with companies potentially doing shady **** like the allegations made about adulterated Craze.

I remember the day man...I actually have been using this website and following the supplement industry very intently since 2003. Although it would be slightly unrelated I could list over 50 stimulant-containing pre-workout powders I have used since I was 16 years old and not a single one has ever come even close to the potency of Craze. In fact, Craze is the only supplement that I have actually had to lower the dose I used. Some of the most powerful formulas I have used were Jack3d, OG Neurocore, and OG Pre-Surge Unleashed - all at 3 scoops and typically in a completely fasted state for multiple tubs, not just samples. I can say I easily used at least 2-3 tubs of each of those three products when they all contained 1,3-dimethylamylamine (geranium, methylhexanamine, etc.). Being a stim-tolerant junkie at the time coming off of a 12-week cycle with Neurocore 5 days per week at max dose I gave Craze a run at 2 scoops in late 2011 when it first came out since the talk was big in the forums. Never in my life have I experienced anything like it. I continued use in that fashion for months and never developed a tolerance. In fact, after cycling off of Craze for a few weeks in early 2012, I actually scaled back use to 1.5 scoops and eventually to 1.25 scoops at most throughout early 2013, although 1 scoop is usually more than enough. Those are the only three products that I have ever used that have come close to the focus provided by craze, although all three of them would win hands-down in the energy department which is obvious since they were all combinations of heavier caffeine+geranium+additional stims.

Anyways, with the recent controversy escalating over the past few months I am curious to see how things turn out. I have personally used over 11 tubs of Craze (500+ scoops) and can say that it's been the most effective product I have ever used for training, not to mention reading or studying and given me the least side effects all around. I know that goes not only for myself, but nearly every single person I have given the product to sample at various doses, which more often than not lead to the purchase of a tub. I've probably lead directly to the sales of nearly 50 tubs of craze from various retailers, and rarely, if ever did I hear even a single complaint about the product when used as directed on the bottle. This is from personal interaction with at least a dozen individuals I am close with that have used the product regularly as a staple. However, I have looked at both sides of the controversy very intently in great detail for months and even with the incredible feedback from those individuals and my personal experiences, I can not recommend the use of this product to anyone until this issue is - and I use this term loosely - *settled*.

[antihero]

Who cares? Its just bb.com with a knee jerk reaction to the bs acusations. Ill keep buying craze and drinking it.

[dvs1ooks]

What I wanna know is if the allegations are false how much will be paid out for the tremendous defamation of product...

[|ceman]

Who cares? Its just bb.com with a knee jerk reaction to the bs acusations. Ill keep buying craze and drinking it.

It's not just bb.com though. Almost every other major online retailer has pulled it and you can't even buy it direct from the DS site anymore. I hope for everyone's sake the accusations are false, the supplement industry does not need this kind of scandal, but right now it is not looking good.

[Meatie]

this is all such a joke. I've been through 15+ tubs of craze and have taken numerous drug tests and passed every single one of them. I can quit cold turkey and be completely fine the next day. I guess thats strange for something that has amphetamines in it

had a thorough check up too just the other month and im in the best shape of my life.
WTF are people going on about? (people that aren't competitors slandering DS)

[Garyboy]

this is all such a joke. I've been through 15+ tubs of craze and have taken numerous drug tests and passed every single one of them. I can quit cold turkey and be completely fine the next day. I guess thats strange for something that has amphetamines in it

had a thorough check up too just the other month and im in the best shape of my life.
WTF are people going on about? (people that aren't competitors slandering DS)

That settles it. Meatie says it's a massive conspiracy. Time to bring Craze back.

[Coatal]

This is unfortunate, been wanting to try Craze.

[Mxxz]

this is all such a joke. I've been through 15+ tubs of craze and have taken numerous drug tests and passed every single one of them. I can quit cold turkey and be completely fine the next day. I guess thats strange for something that has amphetamines in it

had a thorough check up too just the other month and im in the best shape of my life.
WTF are people going on about? (people that aren't competitors slandering DS)

brb iv gone through 8 tubs.. and still have 15 stashed going through them now. everyworkout is epic

i hope craze comes back and the dust settles soon

[Big_Spaz]

this is all such a joke. I've been through 15+ tubs of craze and have taken numerous drug tests and passed every single one of them. I can quit cold turkey and be completely fine the next day. I guess thats strange for something that has amphetamines in it

had a thorough check up too just the other month and im in the best shape of my life.
WTF are people going on about? (people that aren't competitors slandering DS)

Same here man. Got tested for a powerlifting meet back in 2011, got tested when I started my new job here at the bank, randomly tested again about 6 months ago, just got a physical in May (and I'm in tip top as my physician says "Professional athlete" shape) and not a single thing ever showed up. So whatever ...




-Spaz

[dtrain13]

The whole thing smells funny to me. Certain folks have massive axe to grind and are doing so.....that being said I wouldn't rule out tainted batches of products that were untested and thus not known by Driven or Gaspari.

[RoccoSifreddy]

It's not just bb.com though. Almost every other major online retailer has pulled it and you can't even buy it direct from the DS site anymore. I hope for everyone's sake the accusations are false, the supplement industry does not need this kind of scandal, but right now it is not looking good.

Unfortunately this is giving ammunition to people in congress to putt supplements under the full FDA authority.

[P3TrainingP3]

Who cares? Its just bb.com with a knee jerk reaction to the bs acusations. Ill keep buying craze and drinking it.

You don't have to look far on this forum to find out that a lot of people care.

What I wanna know is if the allegations are false how much will be paid out for the tremendous defamation of product...

Great point, yikes.

It's not just bb.com though. Almost every other major online retailer has pulled it and you can't even buy it direct from the DS site anymore. I hope for everyone's sake the accusations are false, the supplement industry does not need this kind of scandal, but right now it is not looking good.

I was not aware that you could not purchase craze from the DS site until your post, |ceman. Did this just occur recently as well? Thanks for you contribution. I completely agree with your statement from start to finish.

this is all such a joke. I've been through 15+ tubs of craze and have taken numerous drug tests and passed every single one of them. I can quit cold turkey and be completely fine the next day. I guess thats strange for something that has amphetamines in it

had a thorough check up too just the other month and im in the best shape of my life.
WTF are people going on about? (people that aren't competitors slandering DS)

I'm glad to hear you don't have any issues with using Craze. As I stated above, I also do not have many/if any side effects from using Craze for a prolonged period of time, nor did a majority of the people I sampled Craze to who ended up purchasing a tub for themselves. I can recall a couple times with the higher doses between 1.5-2 scoops experiencing lightheadedness, anxiety, paranoia, and depression. These were rare occurrences and have never been replicated at lower doses. Also I would say my first tub or two of grape Craze I would get dry mouth (cotton mouth) and extremely sweaty palms and feet nearly every single time I used the product, although those issues have never been replicated with different flavors or with lower doses. And I've used nearly all of them (Grape, Berry Lemonade, Apple Pie, Pina Colada, Pineapple Passion Fruit, Blackberry Tea, and even Summer Tea) The testing has been discussed greatly on this forum and standard panels would never show the presence of the substance of accusation unless it was specifically tested for, which could be a reason more people don't test positive, or it could not. I am not at liberty to answer that. However, a great deal of questions remain and I personally can not advise anyone use this product until the controversy is settled. However, I hope that if you continue to use Craze that you have been informed on both sides of the subject and are aware of the various red flags being discussed and not simply brushing it off as illegitimate claims or trolling from competitors as I originally did.

The whole thing smells funny to me. Certain folks have massive axe to grind and are doing so.....that being said I wouldn't rule out tainted batches of products that were untested and thus not known by Driven or Gaspari.

There is a great deal of questions I have as well. Things certainly are not clear cut one way or the other just yet.

[P3TrainingP3]

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Thanks, Starkk. I didn't mean for this thread to go off topic. I found the answer I was looking for about my original question didn't mean to turn this into another redundant thread.

[Tyler44]

DS was not dropped by bb.com. Their products are simply out of stock because they've been spending so much time and resources dealing with the BS of the last few months. You'll see it all again shortly.

[redbirdfan1]

It's not just bb.com though. Almost every other major online retailer has pulled it and you can't even buy it direct from the DS site anymore. I hope for everyone's sake the accusations are false, the supplement industry does not need this kind of scandal, but right now it is not looking good.

still very easy to find.

[P3TrainingP3]

DS was not dropped by bb.com. Their products are simply out of stock because they've been spending so much time and resources dealing with the BS of the last few months. You'll see it all again shortly.

Interesting! If true, this would discount the previous e-mail claim by rkeane5 about bb.com ending their relationship with DS. I guess I should have just found out myself in the first place. Currently sending an e-mail to hear from the source themselves.

[kissdadookie]

Interesting! If true, this would discount the previous e-mail claim by rkeane5 about bb.com ending their relationship with DS. I guess I should have just found out myself in the first place. Currently sending an e-mail to hear from the source themselves.

I'm pretty sure that they've been dropped. Bb.com is playing it safe here. It's no coincidence that Detonate is not available in the bb.com store as well.

If you look at the other very popular bb online store, DS products are showing up as being out of stock for the most part which is very telling as all this seemingly occurred roughly around the same time that DS stuff disappeared off of bb.com. Can't possibly tell me that consumers just one day decided together that they will go crazy and buy as much DS products as they can all at around the same time.

Not saying DS is shady or not, but the bigger retailers are definitely playing it safe here just in case the DS chit-storm hits critical mass.