Calling our dumbarses who blame their bench on their height

[iliketodoit]

Just read the 'how much do you bench' thread and there's short people claiming they have it hard because of their height, then there's manmores who think having a large wingspan makes it difficult.

I have a question for you all. How do you even know which weights to put on the bar? Like for instance, what stops you from putting on a 35 instead of a 45 when you're trying to load up 135? I ask because if you're too stupid to realize that the body is anatomically proportionate regardless of your height then surely you must have some trouble calculating the math for your lifts?

Taller people have longer bones. Muscles connect to these bones through tendons. Therefore, longer bones support longer muscle bellies which collectively leads to more muscle mass which is part of why they weigh more (herp derp). This extra mass makes up for the extra "work" that they have to do (Work = force * distance). The proportions are the same. It levels out.

Shorter people do not have an easier time benching because they have shorter muscles to match their shorter arms. The only thing taller people have on shorter people is that they do more 'work', which isn't the same thing as lifting more.

Surely there's an ideal clavicle length, an ideal arm length, and an ideal rib cage size for benching, but guess what *******s, you aren't so bad off genetically that your height is the issue. It would be your proportions that are the problem. Unless you look like a fukin monkey with arms down to the floor, or you look like a fukin t-rex, your proportions aren't the issue either. So quit your bishing, realize that's what women do, stop making excuses for yourself, and go to the jim and make some fukin gains you stupid *******s.


Cliffs: whole misc done gone full retard for the past ever on bench press.
W = F*D, Work = Force * Distance, tall people do more work not have to lift harder.

[Bigdog314]

Manmores have a reason to complain because they have longer arms...benching is much easier for manlets

[turboface]

problem is you're lifting in a fixed space

ie. bench to chest is going to be a lot further rom for bigger wingspan

not sure how that doesn't translate into more difficult movement

[iliketodoit]

Manmores have a reason to complain because they have longer arms...benching is much easier for manlets

this person uses a calculator to figure out how to get 200lbs on the bar.

problem is you're lifting in a fixed space

ie. bench to chest is going to be a lot further rom for bigger wingspan

not sure how that doesn't translate into more difficult movement

because your body is still proportionate, as covered in the OP.

[creativewriting]

my wingspan is 71' and I still bench 225x10

yes, 71 feet

[AfghanKing66]

Jay Cutler 5'6". Pls explain OP

[Superkid2]

shutup OP

[iliketodoit]

Jay Cutler 5'6". Pls explain OP

cutler is like 5'9" and I still don't get your point

shutup OP

yes sir

[sOOswole]

Just read the 'how much do you bench' thread and there's short people claiming they have it hard because of their height, then there's manmores who think having a large wingspan makes it difficult.

I have a question for you all. How do you even know which weights to put on the bar? Like for instance, what stops you from putting on a 35 instead of a 45 when you're trying to load up 135? I ask because if you're too stupid to realize that the body is anatomically proportionate regardless of your height then surely you must have some trouble calculating the math for your lifts?

Taller people have longer bones. Muscles connect to these bones through tendons. Therefore, longer bones support longer muscle bellies which collectively leads to more muscle mass which is part of why they weigh more (herp derp). This extra mass makes up for the extra "work" that they have to do (Work = force * distance). The proportions are the same. It levels out.

Shorter people do not have an easier time benching because they have shorter muscles to match their shorter arms. The only thing taller people have on shorter people is that they do more 'work', which isn't the same thing as lifting more.

Surely there's an ideal clavicle length, an ideal arm length, and an ideal rib cage size for benching, but guess what *******s, you aren't so bad off genetically that your height is the issue. It would be your proportions that are the problem. Unless you look like a fukin monkey with arms down to the floor, or you look like a fukin t-rex, your proportions aren't the issue either. So quit your bishing, realize that's what women do, stop making excuses for yourself, and go to the jim and make some fukin gains you stupid *******s.


Cliffs: whole misc done gone full retard for the past ever on bench press.
W = F*D, Work = Force * Distance, tall people do more work not have to lift harder.

Actually agree with you OP. the whole "well im tall so i have to move the bar further" excuse is bullchit. Explain why guys on worlds strongest man are all like 6'4" if height is a handicap to strength

[Bigdog314]

this person uses a calculator to figure out how to get 200lbs on the bar

Benched 325 in high school weighing in at 187 braj...can still throw up about 275 off of that muscle memory

[DontNegImPreggo]

Science brah here, srs, have reasonable experience in physics and a phuck ton in math. OP is correct, aside from a few minor intricacies.

[DontSayDO]

the pec major inserts on the humerus...with longer arms, especially forearms...if the person benching is bringing the bar to their chest, the pec major is stretched more intensely than those of shorter limbed people=more dangerous

dangerous=/=harder... you make up your mind.

edit: also the rib cage can be a determining factor in range of motion(normal rib caged people compared to people with a barrel chest)

source: Delavier/exercise science major

[Ancients]

what the hell kind of argument is that ..

someone who is 6'9 will have a much harder time benching than someone who is 5'3, the huge difference in ROM between the two is greater than the extra mass

[SomaliShred]

explain why powerlifters arch the back to shorten the distance in bench ? if we are talking about just shifting the wieght from a-b then having shorter limbs puts you in a biomechanical advantage

"dont you hate a smart dumb *****"

edit; and being short doesnt automaticaly mean you got potential to be strong as fukk..

[surf junkie]

ITT, manmores who've had an easy time getting laid, feel no reason to push themselves hard on Bench, and subsequently bench less than manlets.

[iliketodoit]

explain why powerlifters arch the back to shorten the distance in bench ? if we are talking about just shifting the wieght from a-b then having shorter limbs puts you in a biomechanical advantage

"dont you hate a smart dumb *****"

edit; and being short doesnt automaticaly mean you got potential to be strong as fukk..

Because if you shorten the distance it's easier to perform the lift.

what the hell kind of argument is that ..

someone who is 6'9 will have a much harder time benching than someone who is 5'3, the huge difference in ROM between the two is greater than the extra mass

Already explained it, if you don't get it sorry brah.

[evenmypooisbuff]

manlets arms are so short they hardly have to move any distance to complete 1 rep. Compared to a manmore who almost has to hit the ceiling to complete 1 rep. More time under tension for proper form for the tall dude=WAY easier for manlet to push out more reps.

logic/10

[smaxiemaxie]

Lmfao, a tall guy can have the muscle surface areas as a manlet. Your 5,11 you serious can't and call them out, also alot of manmore that can fry manlets in isolations get no where what they squat/bench.

[alg0801]

Lettuce be cereal for a moment misc. The reason most of you guys stall out on your strength is because you don't eat in fear of losing the abs....

not because you're all manmores.

[soccerx16]

OP is delusional.. Lets say you have a 5'8 guy who can bench 225x8.. If his arms magically grew longer but he had the same strength, he would have to push the weight a farther distance and wouldnt be able to do as many reps.. I win

[alg0801]

225 isn't even that much. Almost any beginner could eat in a surplus on a routine like SS and surpass that in 6-12 months. If you have really long limbs you may never bench 600lbs but something like 3 plate isn't unobtainable.




fuuuuark started my summer minibulk today. Hello gains.

[iliketodoit]

manlets arms are so short they hardly have to move any distance to complete 1 rep. Compared to a manmore who almost has hit the ceiling to complete 1 rep. More time under tension for proper form for the tall dude=WAY easier for manlet to push out more reps.

logic/10

You just ignored everything in my post and regurgitated the same garbage posted in every bench thread. Do you even proportions? The bones are longer, then so are the muscles attached. Taller people weigh more. There's your answer.

With your 'logic', every lift a manmore does would be harder. There's more rom for every lift if you're taller. I already covered the definition of work in the OP.

OP is delusional.. Lets say you have a 5'8 guy who can bench 225x8.. If his arms magically grew longer but he had the same strength, he would have to push the weight a farther distance and wouldnt be able to do as many reps.. I win

If his arms magically grew longer then the muscles in them would magically grow longer to accommodate his arms. Given your scenario, yes he's going to have a harder time benching (because you specifically said he would have the same strength; which he wouldn't....), but generally if your arms grow longer the muscle connected between the joints will also grow with it. More muscle mass = easier bench (yes I know tricep isn't primarily responsible for bench). Next.

[surf junkie]

OP is delusional.. Lets say you have a 5'8 guy who can bench 225x8.. If his arms magically grew longer but he had the same strength, he would have to push the weight a farther distance and wouldnt be able to do as many reps.. I win

The one problem with OPs theory, is that he is assuming that more arm muscle translates into stronger bench press.

It does to a limited extent, but remember Bench is primarily a Pectoral exercise, not bicep/forearm/tricep.

And manmores do not necessarily have larger chest muscles. In fact, most "Ecto" brahs height comes from femur/tibia length, not torso size.

So a manmore and manlet could have same torso size, with different limb length.

The best Bench Pressers, have large chest and short arms.

[Chrome Face]

I'm 6'2" and bench 185lbs. jakes on u

[hzx]

explain why powerlifters arch the back to shorten the distance in bench ? if we are talking about just shifting the wieght from a-b then having shorter limbs puts you in a biomechanical advantage

"dont you hate a smart dumb *****"

edit; and being short doesnt automaticaly mean you got potential to be strong as fukk..

they don't arch their back to shorten distance. they do it do it brings the pectorial major more into play which is the larger part of the pectorial muscle

[alg0801]

The one problem with OPs theory, is that he is assuming that more arm muscle translates into stronger bench press.

It does to a limited extent, but remember Bench is primarily a Pectoral exercise, not bicep/forearm/tricep.

Powerlifting style bench uses triceps, front delts, pecs, lats, abs, seratus, and even a little bit of legs...

The slow descent + "pulling the bar apart" on the way down even puts stress on your biceps.

[soccerx16]

You just ignored everything in my post and regurgitated the same garbage posted in every bench thread. Do you even proportions? The bones are longer, then so are the muscles attached. Taller people weigh more. There's your answer.

With your 'logic', every lift a manmore does would be harder. There's more rom for every lift if you're taller. I already covered the definition of work in the OP.

Umm doctor you forgot that bones equate to around 30-40% of a persons weight, and at the same bf as a person with shorter limbs they would have more fat

[iliketodoit]

The one problem with OPs theory, is that he is assuming that more arm muscle translates into stronger bench press.

It does to a limited extent, but remember Bench is primarily a Pectoral exercise, not bicep/forearm/tricep.

Longer arm means longer clavicle (proportions), and also larger rib case which = larger chest. I should have covered that in the OP, my bad, I was trying to use the easiest measurable bodypart to show the idea of proportions.

[BigPharm]

Cliffs: whole misc done gone full retard for the past ever on bench press.
W = F*D, Work = Force * Distance, tall people do more work not have to lift harder.

A respectiveful chime in: Your conclusion based on W=FD isn't correct. I don't think that force would change with weight lifted being equal, however, the distance definitely would change, meaning that tall people would have to do more work to lift the same amount of weight. You say that tall people do more work to lift similar weight, meaning it actually is harder for taller people to put up big weight. But I don't bench much and wasn't very good at physics, so don't listen to me.

[iliketodoit]

Umm doctor you forgot that bones equate to around 30-40% of a persons weight, and at the same bf as a person with shorter limbs they would have more fat

my point

















your head.

A respectiveful chime in: Your conclusion based on W=FD isn't correct. I don't think that force would change with weight lifted being equal, however, the distance definitely would change, meaning that tall people would have to do more work to lift the same amount of weight. You say that tall people do more work to lift similar weight, meaning it actually is harder for taller people to put up big weight. But I don't bench much and wasn't very good at physics, so don't listen to me.

Doing more work =/= more difficult lift.