Derek Poundstone vs Kai Greene

[jahaa]

(dont take the title to serious plz)

[Lynch93]

Came in expecting Poundstone to out-strenght Kai. Left pleasantly surprised.

[PillClinton]

would suck to dedicate your life to powerlifting (or whatever), become one of the best, only to have some "pansy" bodybuilder be able to perform at a professional level AND look good.

[CytoRoc]

kai ... is an.. Animal.

its so funny how Kai says "i will never be a powerlifter", he works out with "lighter" weights than majority of bodybuilders, and in the end is the runner u...ahem.. 2012 Mr. Olympia and is stronger than a powerlifter

guy is a beast, bar none the best guy out there

[Erictooslow]

Pretty clear difference between the two. Kai's is still insane, but he's basically turned it into an incline. You can't compare that to the way derek is doing it, which is the proper way.

[CBitez]

Kai >

[JTeK]

One is doing a seated shoulder press and the other a "Branch Warren" seated shoulder press...

Kai still strong as fuark regardless of this shoulder press form... no hate

[knicksrbake]

kai looks like he is doing a more inclined shoulder press, whereas poundstone is straight up .

[mobikwa]

kai ... is an.. Animal.

its so funny how Kai says "i will never be a powerlifter", he works out with "lighter" weights than majority of bodybuilders, and in the end is the runner u...ahem.. 2012 Mr. Olympia and is stronger than a powerlifter

guy is a beast, bar none the best guy out there

There was that video of Kai training legs with his new training partner and they saved squats for the end, the narrator says, "now that their legs are preexhausted only a few plates will feel heavy and be difficult." And then Kai busts out 15 rep sets of 405 lbs...

[HydroShake]

And then Kai busts out 15 rep sets of 405 lbs...

LOL. i remember that. textbook form too.

[PillClinton]

The whole "proper way" is total BS in this circumstance.

Derek Poundstone trains this way and didn't hit 405. Kai doesn't even try to powerlift, yet can still rep this "incline press" quite a few times.

Don't you think, if his focus were to do it "the powerlifting way" he could?

[adamsteve14]

LOL. i remember that. textbook form too.

Effortlessly it seemed

[nsxmatt]

It's one exercise. Derek deadlifted 800lbs for 9 reps which is a much better sign of strongman.

[AnarkyLost]

[dwgj18]

Post a link please some reason I'm not seeing the video thx

[babyslayer]

derek trains for bodybuilding aswell, and he isnt a powerlifter, or anywhere near the strongest powerlifter in america muchless the world.

derek trains strongman events and hes awesome at them, he cant compete with kai in bodybuilding and kai cant compete with him in strongman, but i can tell you derek is much stronger than kai is overall and he does it spending FAR less on drugs.

and for the record, kai does train heavy, he just trains heavy for the higher rep ranges he uses and he often pre exhausts.

we see kai going up to low rep sets with 500 on flat bench and incline, this is no different than powerlifting training. powerlifting training is very similar to bodybuilding they just care about the weight being used more than some bodybuilders do, but the rep ranges and exercises dont have to be much different at all.

[Jeddore]

strong but dude that was damn near incline pressing

[Unbiasedfan]

derek trains strongman events and hes awesome at them, he cant compete with kai in bodybuilding and kai cant compete with him in strongman

This.

[Brofessional]

I'm a Poundstone fan, but the angles look similar enough to me...Kai goes down a bit farther as well. Kai has elite pressing strength as we saw with his 495 incline for reps <2 weeks out from the Olympia so I'm not surprised that he can compete with a top strongman on pressing movements.

If it matters, Kai is also 5 inches shorter.

would suck to dedicate your life to powerlifting (or whatever), become one of the best, only to have some "pansy" bodybuilder be able to perform at a professional level AND look good.

Kai isn't just any bodybuilder though...he's in the top percentile of bodybuilders when it comes to strength. A class of lifter reserved only for a very select few names like Yates, Coleman, Efferding etc.

Btw, previous strongman/PL generations like Kaz and Coan used to train mostly like bodybuilders as well. Lots of reps as the foundation of their training, with periods where they'd hit lower reps to demonstrate or peak their strength. That's basically what Kai does too (demonstrates the strength he's built as a byproduct of his training in some of these crazy clips).

You can get extremely strong training "like a bodybuilder" without dedicating your life to strength sports per say just like you can build a great physique training primarily for powerlifting (ie: Dan Green). It's hardly embarrassing to be out benched by Dorian Yates or out muscled by Derek Poundstone when the training for each sport is so similar.

[Brofessional]

i can tell you derek is much stronger than kai is overall and he does it spending FAR less on drugs.

I know you reside in the elite PL circle and take tech yourself babyslayer, but I find this hard to believe. Poundstone is phucking gigantic and fairly lean at ~330-340lbs + competes for elite titles. Why would he be on 'far less' drugs? I'm not saying it isn't true, but I can't wrap my head around that..especially with some of the drug stories that come out of places like Westside.

[zmcdole]

would suck to dedicate your life to powerlifting (or whatever), become one of the best, only to have some "pansy" bodybuilder be able to perform at a professional level AND look good.

yeah, Derek looks liket sh^t. Nobody would ever wanna look like that and be that strong.

[LiftingSteve93]

Lol Derek is a strongman, and not even the best at that. He didn't even qualify for WSM finals this year. Even so, give give a log clean and press or maybe some Atlas stones if you want to compare strength in Derek's sport. Not sure why you'd expect their gym lifts to be too different when Derek and Kai probably both train pretty similarly in the gym.

[PillClinton]

yeah, Derek looks liket sh^t. Nobody would ever wanna look like that and be that strong.

Hope you aren't implying that I said that, because it isn't what i said

[zmcdole]

Hope you aren't implying that I said that, because it isn't what i said

You pretty much implied that when you said Kai can military press 405 AND look good.

[PillClinton]

You pretty much implied that when you said Kai can military press 405 AND look good.

I don't think he would look that great at sub 6% bf, no.

People still want to look like that and be that strong. More power to him. Just stating that kai has the best of both worlds. Strong as a professional yet with Olympia caliber shape.

[Kraken]

Two different ways of training though. Derek's training will revolve around Strongman, which will make him good at what he does. Strongmen have some crazy strength endurance etc.

[zmcdole]

I don't think he would look that great at sub 6% bf, no.

People still want to look like that and be that strong. More power to him. Just stating that kai has the best of both worlds. Strong as a professional yet with Olympia caliber shape.

i agree

[dwgj18]

Is there a link of this on youtube? Or is it MD OR FLEX? Thx

[PaulNZack1]

[orderoutofchaos]

what a stupid comparison, are we really that far away from the olympia?