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Thread: Derek Poundstone vs Kai Greene
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12-17-2012, 06:30 PM #1
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12-17-2012, 06:43 PM #2
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12-17-2012, 06:49 PM #3
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12-17-2012, 07:00 PM #7
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12-17-2012, 07:03 PM #9Look under your chair. YOU GET A REP, AND YOU GET A REP, REPS FOR EVERYONE! If I get a rep, you get a rep, every time. Give me a link to make my life a little easier.
If you don't give me a link and you didn't post in the thread you rep'd me in, I'm not gonna go searching for you. I'll get everyone on recharge.
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12-17-2012, 07:08 PM #10
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12-17-2012, 07:15 PM #11
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12-17-2012, 07:28 PM #12
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12-17-2012, 07:32 PM #13
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12-17-2012, 07:54 PM #14
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12-17-2012, 07:57 PM #15
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12-17-2012, 08:07 PM #16
derek trains for bodybuilding aswell, and he isnt a powerlifter, or anywhere near the strongest powerlifter in america muchless the world.
derek trains strongman events and hes awesome at them, he cant compete with kai in bodybuilding and kai cant compete with him in strongman, but i can tell you derek is much stronger than kai is overall and he does it spending FAR less on drugs.
and for the record, kai does train heavy, he just trains heavy for the higher rep ranges he uses and he often pre exhausts.
we see kai going up to low rep sets with 500 on flat bench and incline, this is no different than powerlifting training. powerlifting training is very similar to bodybuilding they just care about the weight being used more than some bodybuilders do, but the rep ranges and exercises dont have to be much different at all.
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12-17-2012, 08:08 PM #17
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12-17-2012, 08:09 PM #18
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12-17-2012, 08:16 PM #19
I'm a Poundstone fan, but the angles look similar enough to me...Kai goes down a bit farther as well. Kai has elite pressing strength as we saw with his 495 incline for reps <2 weeks out from the Olympia so I'm not surprised that he can compete with a top strongman on pressing movements.
If it matters, Kai is also 5 inches shorter.
Kai isn't just any bodybuilder though...he's in the top percentile of bodybuilders when it comes to strength. A class of lifter reserved only for a very select few names like Yates, Coleman, Efferding etc.
Btw, previous strongman/PL generations like Kaz and Coan used to train mostly like bodybuilders as well. Lots of reps as the foundation of their training, with periods where they'd hit lower reps to demonstrate or peak their strength. That's basically what Kai does too (demonstrates the strength he's built as a byproduct of his training in some of these crazy clips).
You can get extremely strong training "like a bodybuilder" without dedicating your life to strength sports per say just like you can build a great physique training primarily for powerlifting (ie: Dan Green). It's hardly embarrassing to be out benched by Dorian Yates or out muscled by Derek Poundstone when the training for each sport is so similar.
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12-17-2012, 08:27 PM #20
I know you reside in the elite PL circle and take tech yourself babyslayer, but I find this hard to believe. Poundstone is phucking gigantic and fairly lean at ~330-340lbs + competes for elite titles. Why would he be on 'far less' drugs? I'm not saying it isn't true, but I can't wrap my head around that..especially with some of the drug stories that come out of places like Westside.
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12-17-2012, 09:11 PM #21
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12-17-2012, 09:16 PM #22
Lol Derek is a strongman, and not even the best at that. He didn't even qualify for WSM finals this year. Even so, give give a log clean and press or maybe some Atlas stones if you want to compare strength in Derek's sport. Not sure why you'd expect their gym lifts to be too different when Derek and Kai probably both train pretty similarly in the gym.
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12-17-2012, 09:35 PM #23
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12-17-2012, 09:45 PM #24
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12-17-2012, 09:57 PM #25
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12-17-2012, 10:06 PM #26
Two different ways of training though. Derek's training will revolve around Strongman, which will make him good at what he does. Strongmen have some crazy strength endurance etc.
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12-17-2012, 10:08 PM #27
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12-18-2012, 03:36 AM #30
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