Hey Bob. I was just reflecting on your training protocol posts and was curious as to the reasoning behind Pull-ups being apart of what seems to be every training session. Is this part of weak point focus or more so in terms of a warm ups. Hope you don't mind just curious.
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03-22-2013, 12:50 PM #2311
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03-22-2013, 01:41 PM #2314
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Pull-ups are awesome! BUT I kind of feel like based on the hypertrophic development of your back, that it's more like your non-lat muscles are actually the ones lacking the most. Deads and good mornings for sure - but I maybe bro-ing it up and doing heavy barbell rows in more of a rear-delt/trap/rhomboid stimulating position might get it done.
Either way man, your progress is going well and I'm jelly of how lean you've kept things.
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03-22-2013, 01:50 PM #2315
Came across a great article with current research from different S&C studies on the this^ very topic. (http://www.strengthandconditioningre...or-pull-downs/) Really good read if you've got a minute or two...
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03-22-2013, 01:54 PM #2316
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Good readings here, but lets not get so carried into science, while its good to understand things, we have to apply what we know , and what works for us and make changes. Not everything you read in science will be 100% correct from human to huamn, so we have to play trial and error to find what works for us and utilize it. We are ALWAYS learning.
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03-22-2013, 02:20 PM #2317
Very true, I agree 100% and I'm not suggesting you need to follow the article's advice and change your routine. You know what works for you and it's definitely working, as evidenced by those progress pics. I just thought it was a good article because it offered scientific data to back up the information but also provided practical recommendations for how to incorporate the findings into one's personal programming.
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03-22-2013, 03:39 PM #2319
I've always taken a low volume, high frequency stance with pullups and it's worked quite well.
Twice a week at the start of a back workout I do 2-3 warmup sets of bodyweight pullups (pulldowns if pullups are already hard)
After that I do 3 working sets of 6-8 weighted pullups, resting about 1-2 mins in between. Try adding 10 lbs and doing 3x6, once you can do 3x8 then add another 5-10 lbs and go back to 3x6.
I've always found success with this simple method of overload/progression, although I do have good genetics for pullups I'm certain this method can work for anyone. Slowly bulking is also essential as it assures your gaining muscle while progressing in weight.
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03-22-2013, 04:29 PM #2320
^^^totally agree bob
with some exercises/lifts/workouts etc i feel like i sometimes "know" what science and research tells us about volume, reps, weight etc. but with a lot of exercises i feel like i disregard science and go by what my results tell me and what my head tells me, no scientific backing, just trial/errorcan't out train a bad diet
can't out diet bad training
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03-22-2013, 05:39 PM #2322
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Fat intake for me is low year round (45-50g) its what works FOR ME. yes this has been asked a ton.
I have tried carb cycling when i first started with jason, and we did High/Low/Medium days fat would range from 50-100g daily depending on the day, he did this for a long time to see how i would respond to different carb/fat intakes and how my mood, energy, strength, workouts, and daily life would be while on this. Did i feel bloating? Did i feel like i had more energy? etc.. all of these things he took note on and we went from there. As i continued to feel bloated and bogged down on higher fat he just went to a straight low fat higher carb year round approach, and well
Ill let the pictures do the talking.
Looks like your taking a chapter out of Martin's book here regarding frequency and how he sets up his training (RPT style) regarding reps and adding weight. Great minds think alike! Good to see you popping in here. I hope all is well with you, i know you had a bad injury hope you are recovering.
^^ Bingo. some people get better quads squatting at or above parellel.
Some make better gains with using less ROM On certain exercises
Some people thrive off lower volume
some thrive off higher volume
The human body is not a textbook.
We are ALWAYS learning our bodies.
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03-22-2013, 08:17 PM #2323
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The human body is so interesting. Bob's example is living proof that what works for one person may not work at all for another person. This is obviously relating to a gym performance/overall mood point of view, and not overall body composition. The pictures and numbers are proof of your hard work.
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Mesocycle #3
Week 3 Day 1
5 Minute Warm-Up on Bike
30 Pull-Ups over various Grips/Sets
3 Second Paused DB Bench Press: (3 @ 70%)
100''s x 3 (6 Sets)
+5 Pounds
Cable Crossover: *60 Second Rest*
25 Each Hand x 8 (4 Sets)
A1: Weighted Dips:
BW +25lb Chain x 20 (6 Sets)
+2 Reps
A2: Weighted Chins: (5 @ 80%)
BW +25lb Chain x 5 (6 Sets)
B1: Dumbbell Lateral Raise (Pause at Top)
20's x 10 (6 Sets)
B2: Braced DB Row (Using Both DB's and Lying Face Down on an incline bench ((15 @ 60%))
50's x 15 (6 Sets)
Post-Workout:
Chicken and Shrimp Stirfry:
Its not only that, it goes to show what some people say is not optimal works. Its weird, some people say you cant stay low fat year round, well. look at the change, look at the progress, and look at the end result. Year to year it shows in the mirror and in the weight room. I am my stronger/leanest ever at 180 pounds. compare the pictures. they dont lie.
Just doing what we do chef. Blazing some good eats in the kitchen and hitting the weight room.
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03-23-2013, 02:03 PM #2330
I knew it was when I first saw it this morning.
I was at first Thinking: "That looks nothing like Chef Bob's style."She approached with her hand extended,. I slowly stepped back. "No" she said. "I just want to shake your hand. You're amazingly gorgeous." As she walked by me she copped a biceps feel.
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MesoCycle #3
Week 3 Day 1
5 Minutes on Bike to Warmup
30 Pullups over various Grips/Sets:
3 Second Pause Back Squats: (3 Reps @ 77.5%)
290 x 3 (6 Sets)
+5 Pounds
A1: Leg Press: (57.5% of 20RM)
2 Plates/Side x 20 (5 Sets)
A2: Safety Bar Squat (57.5% or 5RM)
185 x 5 (5 Sets)
B1: DB Cross Body Hammer Curl's *2 Second Hold at top*
40's x 6 (5 Sets)
B2: SkullCrusher: *Pause at Bottom*
135 x 8 (2 Sets)
145 x 6 (2 Sets)
Barbell Curl: *2 Second Hold at Top*
75 x 8 (2 Sets)
95 x 6 (2 Sets)
Post-Workout:
Steak Stirfry:
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03-25-2013, 08:03 AM #2336
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03-25-2013, 02:11 PM #2338
It better be restaurant left overs, if not bob has to step back and take a serious look at his cooking regime. and re-evaluate.
Plus all that saturated fat they use along with the fat in that steak, that meal has no less than 100g of fat in it.
Groce bob. but not all is lot. You could always create an e-book for bodybuilders on the go, and show them how to get results from a diet just using canned goods and cheap noodles.
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