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    Hey folks...been gone a while, brain aneurysm last October...but never mind that, i'm back at it now....Question is (and I may be splitting hairs)...on a cut, there's lots of arguements out there about this and that....what I can't find is...WHAT WOULD BE THE PROPER WAY TO DO THE REPS on a cut...as far as the cadence of the rep...preciate if yall got opinions on this hit me..
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    Wow, long time no see, man! Glad to hear you're doing ok.


    As far as your question goes, I'd say don't change a thing with your routine, if it works well for you. If you start lessening your workload on a cut, your body will start burning the muscle that's no longer needed to do your usual work. Cutting is all about cals in and cals out. Best to reduce the cals, rather than change the way you lift.
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    thanks man...still got that old school stuff in my brain....

    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    Wow, long time no see, man! Glad to hear you're doing ok.


    As far as your question goes, I'd say don't change a thing with your routine, if it works well for you. If you start lessening your workload on a cut, your body will start burning the muscle that's no longer needed to do your usual work. Cutting is all about cals in and cals out. Best to reduce the cals, rather than change the way you lift.
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    Originally Posted by IronCharles View Post
    Wow, long time no see, man! Glad to hear you're doing ok.


    As far as your question goes, I'd say don't change a thing with your routine, if it works well for you. If you start lessening your workload on a cut, your body will start burning the muscle that's no longer needed to do your usual work. Cutting is all about cals in and cals out. Best to reduce the cals, rather than change the way you lift.
    There is some truth to this... that which put the size on you, is likely to keep said size on you when you decrease the calories. The adding volume and reps approach works well if you are enhanced, but training natty it often results in burnout and muscle loss. If anything you may need to cut volume back slightly going from a bulk to a cut, but if you must sacrifice something cut volume not the weight on the bar if you wish to maintain your lbm.
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    What grows you in a surplus, spares you on a deficit.
    Take MORE time between sets to ensure you get the weight and reps.
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    all good advice, agree...and SAC, wishing you continued health buddy!!
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    If your goal is max separation between muscle grups and striations you need to train very fast more volume and medium heavy weights with short rest periods.
    Training always heavy adds tickness but quality is compromised.
    You should when dieting to now and then go heavy and do one exerc usualy the first one and basic to perserve muscle mass and give it a reason not to srink
    and go to about two min between sets and go as low as four reps.
    Remaining exerc you go medium heavy and have 30 to one min between sets and exerc, reps around 10-12 and train for max pump, olthough the deeper in diet the harder to experience bouth the pump and harder to do the first exerc heavy and it's inevitable to loose some of the strength as the diet gets to it's final weeks.
    Also the diet needs to be on point as does cardio of course.
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    Originally Posted by vladoversic View Post
    If your goal is max separation between muscle grups and striations you need to train very fast more volume and medium heavy weights with short rest periods.
    Training always heavy adds tickness but quality is compromised.
    You should when dieting to now and then go heavy and do one exerc usualy the first one and basic to perserve muscle mass and give it a reason not to srink
    and go to about two min between sets and go as low as four reps.
    Remaining exerc you go medium heavy and have 30 to one min between sets and exerc, reps around 10-12 and train for max pump, olthough the deeper in diet the harder to experience bouth the pump and harder to do the first exerc heavy and it's inevitable to loose some of the strength as the diet gets to it's final weeks.
    Also the diet needs to be on point as does cardio of course.
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    Originally Posted by vladoversic View Post
    If your goal is max separation between muscle grups and striations you need to train very fast more volume and medium heavy weights with short rest periods.
    Training always heavy adds tickness but quality is compromised.
    You should when dieting to now and then go heavy and do one exerc usualy the first one and basic to perserve muscle mass and give it a reason not to srink
    and go to about two min between sets and go as low as four reps.
    Remaining exerc you go medium heavy and have 30 to one min between sets and exerc, reps around 10-12 and train for max pump, olthough the deeper in diet the harder to experience bouth the pump and harder to do the first exerc heavy and it's inevitable to loose some of the strength as the diet gets to it's final weeks.
    Also the diet needs to be on point as does cardio of course.
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    As has already been stated, OP, continue to train as you have been. Take as much time between sets as you need in order to be able to lift maximum weight for as many reps as possible. Continuing to lift heavy weight is your only hedge against giving away your hard-earned muscle mass. And this is especially true during a calorie deficit.

    Disregard the 'pump,' as it's irrelevant to your cut success.

    Keep your CV exercise to the minimum required just to maintain CV health; use calorie control to produce your calorie deficit. Doing any additional, unneeded physical exercise during a period of calorie deficit will only further compromise your body's ability to recover from heavy weight training.
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    Specifically to cadence; I wouldn't over think it if your routine doesn't have exercises focusing on negatives or (short) isometric holds.

    As long as you're lifting properly, tempo is largely regulated by the percent of maximum used for a particular movement. For instance, you will move at two different speeds when squatting at 65% or 80% of maximum. Speed naturally slows down and the only way you can achieve uniformity (where the rep duration is the same within and between sets) is to lift lighter. I think lifting for the last rep of the last set leads to less challenging sessions.
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    firstly, glad to hear that you are in good health and back in the game.
    during a cut (currently cutting) i lift as heavy as i can given the caloric deficite, generally i lose some strength and require a bit more rest between sets.
    good luck and continued good health.
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    hold on a sec, guys, here is a picture of VLAD:




    now: I think the problem, is that our man from CROATIA does not have good command of the English language, which explains the , ahem, "cryptic" nature of his post.....

    but anyone that looks like THAT, probably knows what the hell he is doing...

    VLAD: if you are out there, in Europe, and follow up on your posts, could you please come back on this one and elaborate a little on what I feel is a language barrier here...thanks...
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    thanks jason...good stuff
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    good to see some old friends still out here....lol....missed you guys....thanks guys....I do appreciate it...getting old and thinking too much....



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    hold on a sec, guys, here is a picture of VLAD:




    now: I think the problem, is that our man from CROATIA does not have good command of the English language, which explains the , ahem, "cryptic" nature of his post.....

    but anyone that looks like THAT, probably knows what the hell he is doing...

    VLAD: if you are out there, in Europe, and follow up on your posts, could you please come back on this one and elaborate a little on what I feel is a language barrier here...thanks...
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    Welcome back. I agree with IW, cmoore, etc... on this one. I keep my rep range the same regardless of cutting/bulking.
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