hodgetwins going to get owned by science

[Lowkeii]

I thought their videos were just for laughs. I mean, they are two Of the biggest broscientists around.

No pun intended.

[greekmanman]

I thought their videos were just for laughs. I mean, they are two Of the biggest broscientists around.

No pun intended.

Sadly not; they have like 100,000 subscribers who actually take their **** advice seriously lolol

[bochon]

Do a little research before you make claims like that.

Nunez bulked up to 250 over the course of a decade to achieve his muscularity, followed by a slow and careful cut losing over 100 lbs to achieve that physique (at 155lbs mind you).



The natural bodybuilding organizations would not associate themselves with Nunez if he wasn't natural. His influence in the world of natural bodybuilding runs deep.

Possibly the biggest nuthug in the history of the misc beta *******/10

Stop pumping somebody else's tires Maricon.

"course of 10 years" ****ing biggest joke ever LAMBON

[NaturalLayne4]

You use so many fallacies it's practically a waste of my time to respond to you. You're arguing semantics like it's your damn career.

The GI IS almost useless! I'm glad you watched his video, but it worries me you didn't actually learn anything! When fats and proteins are eaten with carbs, the GI goes out the window and insulin response drastically changes. I don't really know what else to say? lol I can't believe someone is arguing this

http://youtu.be/qYqCLteXwMA?t=4m3s

please click that and listen carefully.

Yet you claim the response changes drastically. You're pulling facts out of your ass and you know it.

Edit: Also please drop the pseudo-intelligent act. It is annoying and makes you sound like a douchebag

[DisregardLegs]

hodge twins are not stupid, they know their sht, you can't be completely ignorant and build physiques like taht naturally.. first off they obviously know that if you eat 1 pop tart or 1 cheat, and fit into what you eat during the day you are not going to fuk anything up. BUT what they do say is that if you are eating pop tarts, sugary cereals, pop and a bunch of other sht throughout the day its gonna fuk your gains up. But if you do everything sensibly, it aint even that serious man.

[miskdetective]

hodge twins are just saying to not eat all the sugary stuff because it'll leave you feeling still empty and craving for more. complex carbs will take longer to digest and leave you feeling full longer. that's it. shut the fuk up they never said you can't lose fat if you eat them, just that you will NOT have the self-control to eat only 1 daily ''crap'' food.


lettuce be fukkin cereal most people on IIFYM would look like this because they just can't eat 1 poptart and leave it at that. they can't. no self-control.

[OmgNewb]

^didn't read trolololo

[Kahldris]

hodge twins are just saying to not eat all the sugary stuff because it'll leave you feeling still empty and craving for more. complex carbs will take longer to digest and leave you feeling full longer. that's it. shut the fuk up they never said you can't lose fat if you eat them, just that you will NOT have the self-control to eat only 1 daily ''crap'' food.


lettuce be fukkin cereal most people on IIFYM would look like this because they just can't eat 1 poptart and leave it at that. they can't. no self-control.

if you are eating a bunch of poptarts everyday trying to cut, how are you hitting your macros..

[DaBosse]

Ian is putting the money where his mouth is.

i like this kid, but i can see he is going to have an extremely frustrating time making gains. Brb "why arnt i making gains i did everything kleinman et al outline in section B of their study into the mitochondrial response to training etc" Science only takes you so far in lifting, IMO the best advice comes from those with experience and scientification understanding(someone like layne norton), then second best is those with experience and no scientific understanding (hodge twins) and lastly those who have little experience and alot of scientific understanding(this Ian kid).

[FunkymonkAW]

lettuce be fukkin cereal most people on IIFYM would look like this because they just can't eat 1 poptart and leave it at that. they can't. no self-control.

Then that's an issue with the individual, not the concept of IIFYM.

[OmgNewb]

i like this kid, but i can see he is going to have an extremely frustrating time making gains. Brb "why arnt i making gains i did everything kleinman et al outline in section B of their study into the mitochondrial response to training etc" Science only takes you so far in lifting, IMO the best advice comes from those with experience and scientification understanding(someone like layne norton), then second best is those with experience and no scientific understanding (hodge twins) and lastly those who have little experience and alot of scientific understanding(this Ian kid).

He's already made gains from 120 lbs to 190+ presumably.

[NaturalLayne4]

He's already made gains from 120 lbs to 190+ presumably.

But he is still very weak. If someone gained that much weight their lifts still shouldn't be at a beginners level. Unless of course it was all fat gain

[greekmanman]

But he is still very weak. If someone gained that much weight their lifts still shouldn't be at a beginners level. Unless of course it was all fat gain

He was 95 lbs and couldn't even bench the barbell dude; now he presses 85's iirc

[DaBosse]

He's already made gains from 120 lbs to 190+ presumably.

yeah he is also a what like late teens early 20s? i put on that size going from 16-18 without training and diet. He makes very good points and is impressively knowledgeable, but until hes in his late 20s with 5+ years of lifting i dont see how he can put down others advice and say his is better than anyone elses, let alone people whove acheived more. its kind of like the difference between a kid who just finished his 3 year degree in business, and a guy whos owned a business for 3 years, i can tell you who im going to for business advice and its not the kid.

[Cumulonimbus]

getting all butthurt cumulonimbus? negging me into the red for saying "Ian's been making all kinds of gains man just look at him (not srs)" you acting like an up tight *******

lol who's mad now?

[alan aragon]

In after The Cummer & The Greek....

[Cumulonimbus]

i like this kid, but i can see he is going to have an extremely frustrating time making gains. Brb "why arnt i making gains i did everything kleinman et al outline in section B of their study into the mitochondrial response to training etc" Science only takes you so far in lifting, IMO the best advice comes from those with experience and scientification understanding(someone like layne norton), then second best is those with experience and no scientific understanding (hodge twins) and lastly those who have little experience and alot of scientific understanding(this Ian kid).

The bottom line is that Ian really doesn't care about taking his body composition to the next level that a bodybuilder has. He has an interest in human physiology, but a much greater interest in psychology. He's been through rough personal sh!t, and he uses weight training as a way to let him cool off. He's an intellectual guy and he just so happens to have an interest (not BB'er like obsession) with weight training, so put both of those together and you got a guy who enjoys doing research and proving valid information.

[oneshotGG]

In after The Cummer & The Greek....

in after aragon

[NaturalLayne4]

He was 95 lbs and couldn't even bench the barbell dude; now he presses 85's iirc

He must be a late bloomer is he couldn't bench 45 lbs. And if that is the case most of his gains are probably just the result of puberty. But gains are gains so good for him.

I still find it hard to believe he couldn't bench a barbell. My 5'0 105lb gf could do it no problem.

[DaBosse]

The bottom line is that Ian really doesn't care about taking his body composition to the next level that a bodybuilder has. He has an interest in human physiology, but a much greater interest in psychology. He's been through rough personal sh!t, and he uses weight training as a way to let him cool off. He's an intellectual guy and he just so happens to have an interest (not BB'er like obsession) with weight training, so put both of those together and you got a guy who enjoys doing research and proving valid information.

yeah fair enough good point, i was really more just making the point that when your taking advice science doesnt have all the answers and that experience can be just as valid. but yeah as a person hes seems really cool and is actually one of the better communicators on youtube in terms of scientific explanations, but i wouldnt take advice from him or the twins TBH there are alot of better sources

[flangmasterj]

Brb all carbs are the same....

Brb having the build of a typical miscer

^ Typical miscer.

[Nasri1990]

hodge twins are just saying to not eat all the sugary stuff because it'll leave you feeling still empty and craving for more. complex carbs will take longer to digest and leave you feeling full longer. that's it. shut the fuk up they never said you can't lose fat if you eat them, just that you will NOT have the self-control to eat only 1 daily ''crap'' food.


lettuce be fukkin cereal most people on IIFYM would look like this because they just can't eat 1 poptart and leave it at that. they can't. no self-control.

This.

[ace_gauntlit]

Did this guy really mention ifbb pros? They could eat flour all day and still build muscle.

[Maestro]

Hodgetwins are infinite X more aesthetic than this fruit... just sayin (no homo)

kind of pointless to even mention that.

Its like NFL or NRL players not listening to their coaches because they are not elite conditioned athletes like they are.

[DaBosse]

kind of pointless to even mention that.

Its like NFL or NRL players not listening to their coaches because they are not elite conditioned athletes like they are.

but remember most of those coaches are ex-players with loads of experience and "broscience" knowledge from their time

[Kahldris]

yeah fair enough good point, i was really more just making the point that when your taking advice science doesnt have all the answers and that experience can be just as valid. but yeah as a person hes seems really cool and is actually one of the better communicators on youtube in terms of scientific explanations, but i wouldnt take advice from him or the twins TBH there are alot of better sources

oh god



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[Kahldris]

but remember most of those coaches are ex-players with loads of experience and "broscience" knowledge from their time

wut

do you even know what broscience is?

[DaBosse]

broscience to me is just annecdotal information, can be wrong can be right, sorry if thats not what it means

[Alpha Moth]

Disregarding Ian's info you also disregard Lyle Mcdonald, Alan Aragon, etc. Hodgetwins are ignorant ***gots

[DaBosse]

oh god



please



no




not

oh lawd no haha hes worse then the lot IMO