getting back into weighted pull-ups

[chodan9]

I haven't done weighted pull-ups in over a year and decided to get back into them this morning.
not bad considering...
didnt nail my +70 attempt though
give me a couple weeks though

[lllDBOlll]

Good job man, I'm going for +110 next week. Drop in my log, most I've managed is +90lb for 3.

[chodan9]

Good job man, I'm going for +110 next week. Drop in my log, most I've managed is +90lb for 3.

awesome!

I still have to nail +70 but its going to be a little while.
body weight pulls just got too easy honestly unless I want to do tons of reps/sets

[lllDBOlll]

Cheers man, check it out here:



You'll get it no sweat mate, your signature is the only thing you need!

[taf1968]

Inb4Discdoggie!



Nice work, guys! Chodan, on spread with you but will hit you up when I can. I've been adding weighted pull-ups back in as well . . . had some elbow issues that I was getting over and the weighted versions were aggravating it. Probably won't be adding a ton of weight for awhile just to be careful, but am cranking out reps with 25# added to start off back day.

[123D321]

Good work on the chins

[chodan9]

Holy!! I just started with 10 lbs... Gotta start somewhere I guess. Great job and good luck on your goals

hey
I started pull-ups on a counter balanced machine at the gym with like 80 pounds subtracted from my weight LOL
so your doing way better than I did

[chodan9]

had some elbow issues that I was getting over and the weighted versions were aggravating it.

thats why I strap in on the weighted ones,
saved my elbow back a couple years ago.

[jdtemple]

I started adding weight to my pullups a while back and while the weight was piling on, my form got sloppy. I'm back to basics, pumping out bodyweight sets. The most I can manage in one set is 8 or 9, now that I've put on some weight.

[induced_drag]

Very nice!

Just wanted to share one thing....not sure if it will be an issue for you. A while back I started doing heavy(1-3 reps) weighted chins in prep for a competition for max pull. Before that, I had never done them that heavy.

Doing this aggravated my bicep tendons and I am STILL nursing them months later! Before in my training, I would never experience bicep tendon pain, even with heavy straight bar curls. Now, I am struggling to let them heal up. (Last two weeks did almost no direct bicep work with pronated grips).

Just my experience....but I would be very careful about low reps on pullups. For now, I do not do anything less then I can do for 10+ reps in the healing process and if I ever do go down to lower reps again.... I will be much more careful.

Good luck!

[chodan9]

Just my experience....but I would be very careful about low reps on pullups. For now, I do not do anything less then I can do for 10+ reps in the healing process and if I ever do go down to lower reps again.... I will be much more careful.

Good luck!

I try to be pretty careful on all my lifts.
its kept me injury free for 6+ years (knock on wood)

[cmoore]

Nice work! Keep it up big guy!

Instead of the wraps, id recommend working your wrists (lightly) before you pull. For me I found this REALLY helped with elbow issues (especially pronation/supinations --twisting movements).

FWIW I like using a curl bar instead of a belt At 33seconds: youtube.com/watch?v=LIhJOox2cmk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[discdoggie]

Inb4Discdoggie!

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Damn!






Very nice Chodan.


Why don't any of you all Pull Up Extrordinaires enter any of the ExtremePullUpsCrew comps?

[tomsfish]

nice job on the weighted pulls.just started back to adding weight to mine as well.

[CookAndrewB]

I found that weighted pull ups (and pull ups in general as I do them with a variety of grips, rope/neutral on a peg board/etc) have really helped keep my shoulders healthy. I don't use straps, but my grip is pretty rock solid from strongman, so frankly that isn't the "hard" part of the pullup for me. I'm up to 3x4 at +70lbs currently.

To the poster with the bicep tendon issues: were you doing chins, or pullups?

[induced_drag]

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To the poster with the bicep tendon issues: were you doing chins, or pullups?

Wide grip Pull-ups. I normally dont do them real heavy (nothing less then 10) but was working towards doing a comp of max pull.

With reg wide grip pullups, I can do 35+. I hurt my bicep tendons by going down into singles with 150-160. I never before experienced bicep tendon pain despite moving decent weights in other areas. I normally rep with 80-90.

After aggravating it, I now can feel the pull-ups put about the most strain possible on them. I was not saying not to do them by any means. I just say be careful going down to heavy low reps. (3-1) That is how I hurt mine and have been nursing for almost a month and a half now. Staying in the 7-10 range, I never felt strain.

[cmoore]

Why don't any of you all Pull Up Extrordinaires enter any of the ExtremePullUpsCrew comps?

Don't know anything about it. What is an "extreme" pull up? If you mean Muscle Ups? I love those.

[induced_drag]

Don't know anything about it. What is an "extreme" pull up? If you mean Muscle Ups? I love those.

Just checked out your vid. Very nice! Beastly.

[CookAndrewB]

Wide grip Pull-ups. I normally dont do them real heavy (nothing less then 10) but was working towards doing a comp of max pull.

With reg wide grip pullups, I can do 35+. I hurt my bicep tendons by going down into singles with 150-160. I never before experienced bicep tendon pain despite moving decent weights in other areas. I normally rep with 80-90.

After aggravating it, I now can feel the pull-ups put about the most strain possible on them. I was not saying not to do them by any means. I just say be careful going down to heavy low reps. (3-1) That is how I hurt mine and have been nursing for almost a month and a half now. Staying in the 7-10 range, I never felt strain.

Interesting. I assume that you are talking about the elbow side of the bicep attachment and not near the shoulder...

I really don't feel pullups in my bicep at all. Not sure why that is, but chins... it feels like it is all bicep, and it causes a certain amount of discomfort in my wrists as well.

My thoughts on low reps is that they are fine so long as you can control the movement. You certainly don't want to be swinging, jerking, and crashing back to the hang position with a lot of weight on top of your full BW. In these cases where you try to generate a lot of body momentum to move a weight that you can't "muscle" up, you get a lot of times where a joint goes from high tension to low tension then back to high tension as you load, use momentum, then decelerate. In this case you would be using your connective tissue like a rubber band, as your muscle will likely be in full contraction. This means your joints take a lot of beating and the connective tissue bears the brunt of the trauma. Basically, anything beyond a weight that you can move through controlled muscle contraction tends to be bad news at some point. Whether it is trying to jerk up on a DL, swinging curls, bouncing a barbell off your chest in bench... these are all methods to try and load up heavier than your body has adequately developed for.

[mrmrbill]

thats why I strap in on the weighted ones,...

are those the versa straps in the vid, or regular canvas loops?

[induced_drag]

Interesting. I assume that you are talking about the elbow side of the bicep attachment and not near the shoulder...

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Yes....elbow side. Never had any problems either until I started doing low reps with high weight (1-3 reps). No jerking or swinging....but something about that movement puts a lot of strain on that bicep tendon. When you add in my bodyweight it is pulling well over 330lbs..so that may be an issue. I heard other guys in the comp complain of bicep tendon issues as well.

Anyway....just saying that from what I have seen, I have not seen an exercise that places as much strain on the bicep tendon as does heavy weighted pullups. Not a bad thing....but just something to watch out for doing low reps.


[edit] Removed vid from PR thread...respect to the OP! Sry.. [/edit]

[discdoggie]

Don't know anything about it. What is an "extreme" pull up? If you mean Muscle Ups? I love those.

www.extremepullups.com

One of the dudes (screen name here extremistpullup) is the current world's record holder in most weight pulled up.


They run contests several times throughout the year via FB and here in the Big Misc.

So far they've had 2 max rep bodyweighted, 2 1RM weighted, and one max reps with 45 lb plate. Great fun and motivations, even greater prizes!

[cmoore]

Just checked out your vid. Very nice! Beastly.

Thanks!

One of the dudes (screen name here extremistpullup) is the current world's record holder in most weight pulled up.


They run contests several times throughout the year via FB and here in the Big Misc.

So far they've had 2 max rep bodyweighted, 2 1RM weighted, and one max reps with 45 lb plate. Great fun and motivations, even greater prizes!

That's cool! I'll check it out. I haven't 1 RM'd a weighted pull-up in forever but I'm usually good for 10 reps at 300lb (BW +115). BW wise I'm not all that, highest reps I did last year was only 72 and I'm not sure I could do much better than 60 or so right now.

[induced_drag]

Thanks!



That's cool! I'll check it out. I haven't 1 RM'd a weighted pull-up in forever but I'm usually good for 10 reps at 300lb (BW +115). BW wise I'm not all that, highest reps I did last year was only 72 and I'm not sure I could do much better than 60 or so right now.

Dont sell yourself short.... I think that will put you way over the top. I think the most pullups in their comps is high 30's. Most % of bodyweight was right at 100%. Meaning 184 for you. If you can do 115 for 10, dont think you would have trouble at 185 or close to it. Think you could come in and wipe of the floors with almost anyone with those numbers.

OK ....I just gotta ask????.... are you freakishly strong with all your lifts?....or is your back strength just out there?.

[discdoggie]

Thanks!



That's cool! I'll check it out. I haven't 1 RM'd a weighted pull-up in forever but I'm usually good for 10 reps at 300lb (BW +115). BW wise I'm not all that, highest reps I did last year was only 72 and I'm not sure I could do much better than 60 or so right now.

60 would have easily had you in first place.

[cmoore]

Dont sell yourself short.... I think that will put you way over the top. I think the most pullups in their comps is high 30's. Most % of bodyweight was right at 100%. Meaning 184 for you. If you can do 115 for 10, dont think you would have trouble at 185 or close to it. Think you could come in and wipe of the floors with almost anyone with those numbers.

OK ....I just gotta ask????.... are you freakishly strong with all your lifts?....or is your back strength just out there?.

IDK. It's all speculation until it's done and on vid. Next time I'm feeling up to it, I might give it a go. That website looks like just the inspiration I need to get back above the bar.
Freakishly strong? I'm no power lifter but I'm pretty well rounded and generally move enough weight to feel good about what I'm up to.


Sorry Chodan9, didn't mean to distract your thread. Please keep us posted. I'm looking forward to following your progress and learning from your experiences.

[GreenWave1]

Excellent man. You've inspired me to try them. I just do body weight.

[chodan9]

are those the versa straps in the vid, or regular canvas loops?

versa's
love em
I use more out of habit and comfort zone though now, I dont think I have the issues with my elbows as much as before, they have adjusted over time to the stresses of lifting.

[vladoversic]

Very good man! Keep it up!

[chodan9]

Damn!






Very nice Chodan.


Why don't any of you all Pull Up Extrordinaires enter any of the ExtremePullUpsCrew comps?

not sure I have the time to devote to a competition, but I have thought about it.
If I get my numbers decent I might consider it.