810 deadlift. Mockery.

[Drew23]

I'd rather see 500 bad lifts pass before I see this bullcrap.

[TrettinR]

I'd rather see 500 bad lifts pass before I see this bullcrap.

Everyone is well aware of your hardon for high squats, no need to beat a dead horse. And he most likely could have gotten that overturned if he had tried (maybe he did try). Head judge made a mistake and the lifter got punished for it. And that absolutely sucks but I'd be willing to bet it was just an honest mistake and not someone just blatantly overlooking the rules.

[rob1992]

if you watch his hand he puts it halfway down, stops, then carries on

[Drew23]

Everyone is well aware of your hardon for high squats, no need to beat a dead horse. And he most likely could have gotten that overturned if he had tried (maybe he did try). Head judge made a mistake and the lifter got punished for it. And that absolutely sucks but I'd be willing to bet it was just an honest mistake and not someone just blatantly overlooking the rules.

A lifter shouldn't be punished for a judges mistake, honest or otherwise. But you're implying that since this was in the IPF, it HAD to be an honest mistake.

I'm not a fan of high squats, I'm a fan of powerlifting. I don't like when bad lifts are handed to people (regardless of what your perception is) but I like it even less when lifters are robbed. And a hand coming down is burned into your brain as a down command. If the head judge is stricken dumb and can't speak, but his hand comes down, will we deny the lift because he didn't give a verbal command?

[JiP]

A lifter shouldn't be punished for a judges mistake, honest or otherwise. But you're implying that since this was in the IPF, it HAD to be an honest mistake.

His right side dropped before he locked out, the lift should have been red lighted. But yes the hand coming down early could have ruined the guys lift - which is clearly an honest mistake.

[Drew23]

His right side dropped before he locked out, the lift should have been red lighted. But yes the hand coming down early could have ruined the guys lift - which is clearly an honest mistake.

No, it didn't. And that wasn't the reason given. Andthe head judge making an honest mistake should immediately correct the mistake. He knew it was a good lift and he should have communicated that the the other judges, but he didn't.

[jdyqf]

o wow that is crap. what the hell. he like did a double take with his arm when coming down.

[IronAbrams]

Mike Hedlesky/aka StormTheBeach on T-Nation. He was pretty upset about it, and for damn good reason.

[TrettinR]

But you're implying that since this was in the IPF, it HAD to be an honest mistake.

Excuse me? Where the hell are you pulling this from? The lifter lowered the bar before the judges hand went down because the judge balked on his down command. The judge messed up regardless of what fed he is judging for. And I agree, the lifter should not be punished. But based on your posting history you are comparing a mistake (even a stupid one that shouldn't punish the lifter) to people purposely looking the other way and handing out gifts to lifters. I don't agree with either but they are not the same thing.

I'm not a fan of high squats, I'm a fan of powerlifting. I don't like when bad lifts are handed to people (regardless of what your perception is) but I like it even less when lifters are robbed.

Aren't you the guy who defends high squats as if the decision of the judges are the word of Jebus himself? You weren't there, the judges had the best angle, other lame excuse you use to defend high squats. You have no right arguing the lift, you can't even unrack that. Is that about right?

[Drew23]

Excuse me? Where the hell are you pulling this from? The lifter lowered the bar before the judges hand went down because the judge balked on his down command. The judge messed up regardless of what fed he is judging for. And I agree, the lifter should not be punished. But based on your posting history you are comparing a mistake (even a stupid one that shouldn't punish the lifter) to people purposely looking the other way and handing out gifts to lifters. I don't agree with either but they are not the same thing.



Aren't you the guy who defends high squats as if the decision of the judges are the word of Jebus himself? You weren't there, the judges had the best angle, other lame excuse you use to defend high squats. You have no right arguing the lift, you can't even unrack that. Is that about right?

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. So I'm going to stop right here. This thread is about someone getting robbed of a big PR lift. It's not even about a squat, so I don't know why you're getting all horny about it.

To set the record straight: I don't like the IPF/USAPL and I won't lift there. They have too many rules and are overly strict in enforcing them, often to the point of robbing lifters (as witnessed here).
I don't like the SPF either and I won't lift there. They have a reputation for ignoring the rules on big lifts and that makes legit lifts suspicious. (See Wilkerson's squat, which was a good squat but nobody can see that because of where it was done.)
I lift where the judging is fair and consistent. If that changes, I will move on. At the meet I was at last weekend there were a lot of lifts turned down for depth, a lot that were given 2 whites. Nobody gets screwed and nobody gets a gift. I don't think squatting high is ok, but I do think it is a lifer's job to convince the judges he has completed a good lift. If he can do that and still be an inch high, good for him.

[Boridi]

"my training partner was there - he said it was a good call"

[John Prophet]

looks like he didnt fully lock it out. looks to me like the lifter "stutter stepped" the lockout. He leaned back into a lockout position but then u see it popped right back out then he tried to hold it there. Looks to me like he faked the ref out

IMo, if you take your hand and cover the ref and just watch the lifter, he didnt lock it out. The announcer called it right "he lost it at the lockout"


I dont have a dog in the fight btw.

[Liftamulti]

looks like he didnt fully lock it out. looks to me like the lifter "stutter stepped" the lockout. He leaned back into a lockout position but then u see it popped right back out then he tried to hold it there. Looks to me like he faked the ref out

IMo, if you take your hand and cover the ref and just watch the lifter, he didnt lock it out. The announcer called it right "he lost it at the lockout"


I dont have a dog in the fight btw.

That's what I thought too. I wasn't looking at the judges hand the first time I watched it, and I thought that it shouldn't have passed.

[str8flexed]

I'd rather see 500 bad lifts pass before I see this bullcrap.

i hope you understand, that just because someone does not like high squats... does not mean they also like that kind of BS either. You seem to have trouble separating the two? Not everyone who hates the SPF loves the USAPL dude

[Drew23]

i hope you understand, that just because someone does not like high squats... does not mean they also like that kind of BS either. You seem to have trouble separating the two? Not everyone who hates the SPF loves the USAPL dude

I'm really not the one who started the argument. I was just making a point that this shouldn't be allowed and yes, I would rather see a bad lift passed than a good lift taken away.

And not everyone who hates the USAPL loves the SPF either.

[jmt92]

looks liek the judge did his hand down right as he was locking out, so he put it down. dumb.

[dparm99]

He squatted too low, Drew would have red lighted!

[1Venom1]

lol at people getting mad over this, who gives a ****

[Incensed]

This is extremely poor judging. From when he locked out to when he started lowering again is so short it's hard to tell if he made the lift or lost it at lock-out. My gut feeling is he would have got the lift if it wasn't for the confusion with the judge.

lol at people getting mad over this, who gives a ****

Only a ******* novice teen lifter like you that's never competed wouldn't care.

[Doollas]

Squat was high but I can't even unrack it.

[DCSpartan]

looked fine to me, guy got robbed

[1Venom1]

Only a ******* novice teen lifter like you that's never competed wouldn't care.

lulz u mad?

[fatbencher]

This was a "touch&go" deadlift (didn't wait for the down command). 3 reds.

[TripTastic]

This was a "touch&go" deadlift (didn't wait for the down command). 3 reds.

did you watch the video-- yes he did--- the ref signalled then stopped half way down.

[fatbencher]

did you watch the video-- yes he did--- the ref signalled then stopped half way down.

Yes, I watched the video. He never stops moving.

[Mr. Tripeps]

looks like he didnt fully lock it out. looks to me like the lifter "stutter stepped" the lockout. He leaned back into a lockout position but then u see it popped right back out then he tried to hold it there. Looks to me like he faked the ref out

IMo, if you take your hand and cover the ref and just watch the lifter, he didnt lock it out. The announcer called it right "he lost it at the lockout"


I dont have a dog in the fight btw.

Yes, I watched the video. He never stops moving.

I agree with both. The judge could have made it more concrete by not taking his hand down so fast, but the lifter broke form immediately after he locked out, and just as the hand was starting to move, rather than through the full down command motion.

[Torrtrefireto]

Several good lifts turned down a year in the USAPL

Several bad lifts approved every week when visit plwatch in the spf

[Diana Meeque]

looked ok to me. lockout wasn't even and it looks like he was just about to lose it but he locked it out and got the down command...

[HamburgerTrain]

Bumped because I just found this and am still pissed off.

[TrettinR]

Bumped because I just found this and am still pissed off.

Did you try appealing it and getting it overturned?