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    Red face Is this a good workout routine? Or is it "overtraining"

    I used to do this for about 2 years (since I first started)

    Monday: Chest/Triceps
    Tuesday: Back/Biceps
    Wed: Legs (quads, calves, hams)
    Thursday: Delts, traps, forearms
    Saturday: Abs at home (p90x)

    Now my routine is:

    Monday: Chest/Triceps
    Tuesday: Back/Biceps
    Wed: Legs (quads, calves, hams)
    Thursday: Delts,traps, forearms
    Friday: Chest/Triceps
    Saturday: Back/Biceps/forerams and abs at home later.
    Sunday: Legs (quads, calves, hams)


    I eat 4000 calories per day (I track and weigh everything)
    So is this good? I do 4-5 workouts on chest, back, quads, and 3-4 on minor (arms, calves, forearms) and 3 sets for each workout and I like that.

    I give each muscle at least 72 hours of rest so I should be benefitting from this workout program right? I heard Layne Norton got a lot of response from working every muscle 2x per week so thats why I'm trying it. And I give it 100% in the gym btw

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    My main goal is hypertrophy, or increasing muscle size. I train for size not strength.
    I'm also attempting to steadily bulk with not much fat gain.

    On the first set I do somewhat light weight. Maybe 12 reps. 2nd set is do heavier and almost to failure. Maybe 10 reps. And the 3rd set is to failure with about 8-10 reps.

    100% INTENSITY

    CHEST:
    Incline Bench
    Incline dumbbell press
    Incline dumbbell flye
    Machine Chest press
    Either cable crossovers or decline dumbbell chest press
    (I work my upper chest much more now since it's so weak. My chest is probably my smallest muscle compared to the others, especially the upper chest.)

    TRICEPS:
    One handed and 2 handed overhead dumbbell extension
    Machine dips or regular dips
    Machine Tricep press
    Skullcrushers combined with close grip bench

    LEGS:
    (note: I have bad back problems with scoliosis. I used to do squats, deads, and rows but my back kept paining me a lot plus my doctor told me not to do it, so I had to stop.

    Leg Press
    Hack Squat
    Leg Extension
    ??? (I need another quad exercise that doesnt pain my back)

    Donkey calf raise
    another type of Machine calf raise
    Leg press machine for calves

    Hamstrip Curl machine
    Leg curls


    BACK:
    Wide grip pullups
    T bar rows
    close grip lat pulldown
    Straight arm pulldown (but more ROM)
    Sometimes I'll also do seated cable rows

    BICEPS:
    Seated dumbbell hammer curl
    Concentration Curls
    21's with the Machine bicep curl
    Sometimes I'll do barbell bicep curls too.

    DELTS:
    Seated barbell shoulder press
    Seated dumbbell front raise
    Rear delt machine
    Dumbbells for rear delts
    Arnold Press

    TRAPS:
    Upright barbell row
    Superset dumbbell shrugs

    FOREARMS:
    forearm curl machine
    forearm rope thing
    barbell forearm curls

    I work everything twice per week except delts/traps because my delts are naturally big plus I don't have an 8th day to work them out
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    It's probably not overtraining, but it's far from optimal.
    Goals:

    1.5 bw Bench
    2.0+ bw Squat
    2.5 bw Deadlift
    Gain 20 lbs
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    Originally Posted by dday39 View Post
    It's probably not overtraining, but it's far from optimal.
    whys it far from optimal?
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    there's really no rest

    and you'd probably benefit from a higher frequency
    Goals:

    1.5 bw Bench
    2.0+ bw Squat
    2.5 bw Deadlift
    Gain 20 lbs
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    Read this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118004321



    You've listed body parts and days of the week, it is impossible to evaluate.
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    Originally Posted by caerus13 View Post
    Read this: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118004321



    You've listed body parts and days of the week, it is impossible to evaluate.
    I listed more than that but alright here goes.

    My main goal is hypertrophy, or increasing muscle size. I train for size not strength.
    I'm also attempting to steadily bulk with not much fat gain.

    On the first set I do somewhat light weight. Maybe 12 reps. 2nd set is do heavier and almost to failure. Maybe 10 reps. And the 3rd set is to failure with about 8-10 reps.

    100% INTENSITY

    CHEST:
    Incline Bench
    Incline dumbbell press
    Incline dumbbell flye
    Machine Chest press
    Either cable crossovers or decline dumbbell chest press
    (I work my upper chest much more now since it's so weak. My chest is probably my smallest muscle compared to the others, especially the upper chest.)

    TRICEPS:
    One handed and 2 handed overhead dumbbell extension
    Machine dips or regular dips
    Machine Tricep press
    Skullcrushers combined with close grip bench

    LEGS:
    (note: I have bad back problems with scoliosis. I used to do squats, deads, and rows but my back kept paining me a lot plus my doctor told me not to do it, so I had to stop.

    Leg Press
    Hack Squat
    Leg Extension
    ??? (I need another quad exercise that doesnt pain my back)

    Donkey calf raise
    another type of Machine calf raise
    Leg press machine for calves

    Hamstrip Curl machine
    Leg curls


    BACK:
    Wide grip pullups
    T bar rows
    close grip lat pulldown
    Straight arm pulldown (but more ROM)
    Sometimes I'll also do seated cable rows

    BICEPS:
    Seated dumbbell hammer curl
    Concentration Curls
    21's with the Machine bicep curl
    Sometimes I'll do barbell bicep curls too.

    DELTS:
    Seated barbell shoulder press
    Seated dumbbell front raise
    Rear delt machine
    Dumbbells for rear delts
    Arnold Press

    TRAPS:
    Upright barbell row
    Superset dumbbell shrugs

    FOREARMS:
    forearm curl machine
    forearm rope thing
    barbell forearm curls

    I work everything twice per week except delts/traps because my delts are naturally big plus I don't have an 8th day to work them out
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    Originally Posted by dday39 View Post
    there's really no rest

    and you'd probably benefit from a higher frequency
    yea but dont muscles only need 48-72 hours of rest? I wait 72 hours. And what do you mean high frequency
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    Lunges (walking, alternated, reverse), step ups and bulgarian split squat are more interresting than leg extension for legs developpement.

    It seems like you have too much volume and intensity. Thats gonna be pretty taxing for your CNS.
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    i think everyone has lower back pain around here..

    run a google search for 'Ironmind - super squats hip belt' (or) 'Dip belt squats. since the weight is at your waste it takes your back out of it so theres less compression on the spine. much harder than they look to.
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    Originally Posted by Saintsqc View Post
    Lunges (walking, alternated, reverse), step ups and bulgarian split squat are more interresting than leg extension for legs developpement.

    It seems like you have too much volume and intensity. Thats gonna be pretty taxing for your CNS.
    I'll try them; thanks. And it is a lot of intensity but I'm very dedicated to be a bodybuilder one day so I'll never quit or give less than 100%.

    Originally Posted by Curlers View Post
    i think everyone has lower back pain around here..

    run a google search for 'Ironmind - super squats hip belt' (or) 'Dip belt squats. since the weight is at your waste it takes your back out of it so theres less compression on the spine. much harder than they look to.
    Hm I'll look into it. thanks
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