EliteFTS super heavy knee sleeves

[BT160]

This is the 2nd pair I ordered from them. Their sizing is messed up so bad. I first ordered their medium whish is supposed to fit somebody that weighs 185-200. I opened them up and bam, got stuck at my calf. Then i ordered the large, which i got today. And same thing. I was able to get it on once i used the sleeve of an under armour shirt under it, but my whole leg was pale white by then. Im so sick of sending these back and ordering a new pair. Does anyone have any experience with these or have any ways i can stretch them out a bit?

[DesireToGrow]

Do you plan on using them in a meet? or just for training in the gym?

[BT160]

Do you plan on using them in a meet? or just for training in the gym?

I was hoping to use them in my meet on the 26th

[elevatengt]

If they're anything like the heavy knee sleeves they're meant to be hard as hell to get on. I stretched them over a bundle of boards for about a week and had to use baby powder to finally slip them on. They still tore up my hands pulling them on inch by inch.

[DesireToGrow]

I was hoping to use them in my meet on the 26th

What are they made of? You need to check with your federation on what they can be made of. I'm not familiar with Elite FTS brand sleeves but if they offer "super heavies" and just "heavies", then the "super heavies" may not be considered raw. Typically, you can use neoprene ones in federations which are made for warmth, not so much carryover.

[DesireToGrow]

2.7.2 Knees
1. Wraps not exceeding 2 m in length and 8 cm in width may be used. A knee wrap shall not extend beyond 15 cm above and 15 cm below the centre of the knee joint and shall not exceed a total covering width of 30 cm. An elasticised knee cap supporter not exceeding 30 cm in length may be worn. Knee sleeves 30 cm in length are also legal and the medical/surgical sleeves are also an option. A combination of the two is strictly forbidden. Neoprene may be “synthetic” rubber but is only acceptable in the knee sleeve.

http://www.dellsnationals.com/f/USAP...s_Handbook.pdf

[BT160]

What are they made of? You need to check with your federation on what they can be made of. I'm not familiar with Elite FTS brand sleeves but if they offer "super heavies" and just "heavies", then the "super heavies" may not be considered raw. Typically, you can use neoprene ones in federations which are made for warmth, not so much carryover.

I checked the rule book for the USAPL and they are perfectly legal. I looked everywhere and find what they are made of but they are the most impossible things to get on. I just need to stretch them somehow.

http://www.flexcart.com/members/elit...d=114&pid=3014

[DesireToGrow]

I checked the elitefts site, I just didn't see them say what they are made of.

[BT160]

I checked the elitefts site, I just didn't see them say what they are made of.

Yea and it says it nowhere on the packaging. So how would they even know at the meet?

[Link815]

Those sleeves aren't USAPL legal. Only Neoprene sleeves.

[DesireToGrow]

Yea and it says it nowhere on the packaging. So how would they even know at the meet?

...Because they are familiar with powerlifting equipment?

I'm just trying to keep you prepared. You don't want to show up to find out you can't use them or get a PR overturned because they notice your sleeves.


With that said, someone with competition knowledge in the USAPL (trettin, etc) would help you. The sleeves raw feds allowed are for joint health, not carryover.

these are neoprene




these dont appear to be




like i said, though, we won't know for sure until someone knows what they are made of.

[BT160]

Those sleeves aren't USAPL legal. Only Neoprene sleeves.

source?

[DesireToGrow]

Those sleeves aren't USAPL legal. Only Neoprene sleeves.

Thank you.

Well there ya go, BT. If you can, get a refund and pick some up that you can use for a competition.

[Torrtrefireto]

are they legit illegal or just un-raw in USAPL?

I figure the first one. IPF loves to tell you what you can wear

[Link815]

source?

They decided it at Raw Nationals last summer. Only neoprene sleeves are allowed, none made of knee wrap material like the Inzer/APT/Elite ones. I picked up a pair of Tommy Konos, they're a pain to get on and I still train in my old ones and just use the TKs for meets. I think mine are mediums.

Edit: From the USAPL Technical rules on the website:

Raw/Unequipped Standards
Raw/Unequipped lifting is defined as using only the following gear and accessories as previously described above:
(a) Non-supportive singlet
(b) T-shirt
(c) Briefs
(d) Socks
(e) Belt
(f) Shoes
(g) Wrist wraps
(h) Neoprene knee sleeves w/o tightening

[BT160]

...Because they are familiar with powerlifting equipment?

I'm just trying to keep you prepared. You don't want to show up to find out you can't use them or get a PR overturned because they notice your sleeves.


With that said, someone with competition knowledge in the USAPL (trettin, etc) would help you. The sleeves raw feds allowed are for joint health, not carryover.

these are neoprene


like i said, though, we won't know for sure until someone knows what they are made of.

Well i appreciate all th help. I wasnt sure what material was neoprene was at first but those pictures helped. Is there still anyway i can get a little added weight with the neoprenes?

[DesireToGrow]

Well i appreciate all th help. I wasnt sure what material was neoprene was at first but those pictures helped. Is there still anyway i can get a little added weight with the neoprenes?

Psychologically maybe.

[Link815]

are they legit illegal or just un-raw in USAPL?

I figure the first one. IPF loves to tell you what you can wear

No idea, I don't know why you'd want to wear sleeves instead of wraps in gear, but only neoprene is allowed for raw.

[BT160]

Psychologically maybe.

The more i think about it, im going to try to stretch them out a bit and just see what they think of them at the meet. If they say no, then ill just use something else or nothing at all. No big deal. It's only a local meet so they might not care as much

[Link815]

Well i appreciate all th help. I wasnt sure what material was neoprene was at first but those pictures helped. Is there still anyway i can get a little added weight with the neoprenes?

Maybe 5 pounds. They definitely do a lot more knee warming than the other style.

[Link815]

The more i think about it, im going to try to stretch them out a bit and just see what they think of them at the meet. If they say no, then ill just use something else or nothing at all. No big deal. It's only a local meet so they might not care as much

Locally they may not care. Our local meet director still let us use APT before they paid the extortion fee, but if you're intending on setting records, I doubt you can get away with non-neoprene.

[BT160]

They decided it at Raw Nationals last summer. Only neoprene sleeves are allowed, none made of knee wrap material like the Inzer/APT/Elite ones. I picked up a pair of Tommy Konos, they're a pain to get on and I still train in my old ones and just use the TKs for meets. I think mine are mediums.

Edit: From the USAPL Technical rules on the website:

Raw/Unequipped Standards
Raw/Unequipped lifting is defined as using only the following gear and accessories as previously described above:
(a) Non-supportive singlet
(b) T-shirt
(c) Briefs
(d) Socks
(e) Belt
(f) Shoes
(g) Wrist wraps
(h) Neoprene knee sleeves w/o tightening

Idk where you found that, but right here it says nothing about neoprene:
http://usapowerlifting.com/liftersco...LHandbook2.pdf
Raw/Unequipped lifting is defined as using only the following gear and accessories as previously described above:
(a) non-supportive singlet and shirt
(b) briefs
(c) socks
(d) belt
(e) shoes
(f) commercial wrist wraps
(g) knee sleeves

[DesireToGrow]

If you're looking to set some teeenage records (i believe you're young right?) then they will be more strict on you for the sake of the records.

[BT160]

If you're looking to set some teeenage records (i believe you're young right?) then they will be more strict on you for the sake of the records.

Yes, ill be setting the Deadlift and Total national records for the 16-17 year old age division

[DesireToGrow]

Yes, ill be setting the Deadlift and Total national records for the 16-17 year old age division

Then don't take the risk.

[Link815]

Idk where you found that, but right here it says nothing about neoprene:
http://usapowerlifting.com/liftersco...LHandbook2.pdf
Raw/Unequipped lifting is defined as using only the following gear and accessories as previously described above:
(a) non-supportive singlet and shirt
(b) briefs
(c) socks
(d) belt
(e) shoes
(f) commercial wrist wraps
(g) knee sleeves

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/about...es20090800.pdf
Page 23

[DesireToGrow]

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/about...es20090800.pdf
Page 23

Yeah, you found the more detailed book I was looking for.

Raw/Unequipped Standards
Raw/Unequipped lifting is defined as using only the following gear and accessories as previously described above:
(a) Non-supportive singlet
(b) T-shirt
(c) Briefs
(d) Socks
(e) Belt
(f) Shoes
(g) Wrist wraps
(h) Neoprene knee sleeves w/o tightening

[BT160]

http://www.usapowerlifting.com/about...es20090800.pdf
Page 23

sonnovabitch.

[elevatengt]

sounds like it's already been settled but the efs sleeves are definitely not usapl legal. they're very similar to the woven material that wraps are made of--which is why they're so tight and rough to get on. neoprene won't add pounds, but the efs sleeves definitely will.

[corozco]

Knowing that they are not USAPL legal just stop worrying about it and set some records. You are competing raw so take advantage of the fact you do not need to worry about gear. Good luck setting those records!