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    Am i too advanced for rippetoes?

    I have been liftin for about a year. I weigh 145 at 5'7 and my lifts are:

    Squat: 154lbsx5
    Bench: 135lbsx5
    Deadlift: 180lbsx5
    Miltary press: 100lbsx5

    Am i too advanced for rippetoes? I did it in the past for 2 weeks and i gained 20lbs on every lift so i wanted to do it again but properly.
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    Squat: 154lbsx5




    You might want to take a look at a 20 rep squat routine or another squat/dl oriented routine with a bit more volume; as for ripptoes if you were to do it it wouldn't be a good idea to do it long term.
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    Originally Posted by benjaminr View Post
    Squat: 154lbsx5




    You might want to take a look at a 20 rep squat routine or another squat/dl oriented routine with a bit more volume; as for ripptoes if you were to do it it wouldn't be a good idea to do it long term.
    why not?
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    why not?





    Ripptoes doesn't really have enough volume to promote good muscle growth on a bulk, hence the subtitle "starting strength". Basically if you bulk on ripptoes a long time you'll get fat.
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    Originally Posted by benjaminr View Post
    Ripptoes doesn't really have enough volume to promote good muscle growth on a bulk, hence the subtitle "starting strength". Basically if you bulk on ripptoes a long time you'll get fat.
    1) I wont get fat.
    2) I would bastardize rippetoes with some arm work and ****.
    3) Im doing it for strength.

    Im askin if i am still entitled to do it at my level.
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    1) I wont get fat.
    2) I would bastardize rippetoes with some arm work and ****.
    3) Im doing it for strength.

    Im askin if i am still entitled to do it at my level.
    Do it *******
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    1) I wont get fat.
    2) I would bastardize rippetoes with some arm work and ****.
    3) Im doing it for strength.

    Im askin if i am still entitled to do it at my level.



    You could I suppose, and you're talking about adding extra volume, which I was just saying was the main thing it was lacking. But hell, feel free to give it a try.
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    So im not too advanced? Also, i would just add some arm work and maybe inclines.
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    Originally Posted by benjaminr View Post
    Ripptoes doesn't really have enough volume to promote good muscle growth on a bulk, hence the subtitle "starting strength". Basically if you bulk on ripptoes a long time you'll get fat.
    The fawk? facepalm.jpg

    OP, just continue on ripptoes. You are nowhere near "advanced". You'll make gains
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    Originally Posted by muxl View Post
    The fawk? facepalm.jpg

    OP, just continue on ripptoes. You are nowhere near "advanced". You'll make gains
    Continue? I havent done it in ages! I did it for 2 weeks after xmas. I was gonna start it again now but a bastardized version.
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    Originally Posted by benjaminr View Post
    Ripptoes doesn't really have enough volume to promote good muscle growth on a bulk, hence the subtitle "starting strength". Basically if you bulk on ripptoes a long time you'll get fat.
    what the fuk man
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    Heres what id do:

    workout A:

    Squat 3x5
    Bench 3x5
    Deadlift 3x5
    Barbell curls 3xwatever

    workout B

    Squat 3x5
    Press 3x5
    Bent over rows 3x5
    Skullcrushers 3xwatever

    Sounds ok, nah?
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    Heres what id do:

    workout A:

    Squat 3x5
    Bench 3x5
    Deadlift 3x5
    Barbell curls 3xwatever

    workout B

    Squat 3x5
    Press 3x5
    Bent over rows 3x5
    Skullcrushers 3xwatever

    Sounds ok, nah?
    i would really say that adding curls and skull crushers is adding volume to it lol

    Squat: 154lbsx5
    Bench: 135lbsx5
    Deadlift: 180lbsx5
    Miltary press: 100lbsx5

    ^ your not "advanced" at all...just do the normal SS routine and if you dont see any gains then do something else
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    Originally Posted by muscledon View Post
    i would really say that adding curls and skull crushers is adding volume to it lol

    Squat: 154lbsx5
    Bench: 135lbsx5
    Deadlift: 180lbsx5
    Miltary press: 100lbsx5

    ^ your not "advanced" at all...just do the normal SS routine and if you dont see any gains then do something else
    Yo, MUSCLEDON, i will still be able to progress fine on it even with the arm work lol. Ive done way higher volume **** and i have still gone up while doin those so i sincerely think that some curls wont make a difference, dont u agree?
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    First of all: Not advanced at all. Those are about the stats I had when I started SS (don't call out my current stats, I just had a knee problem and haven't worked out properly for a while). And instead of skullcrushes and curls do weighted chin ups and weighted dips. Dips after Workout A and chins after Workout B.
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    Yo, MUSCLEDON, i will still be able to progress fine on it even with the arm work lol. Ive done way higher volume **** and i have still gone up while doin those so i sincerely think that some curls wont make a difference, dont u agree?
    yo, RADDERZ, you can do the arm work or w/e thats fine but you said that you wanted to add more volume to it and thats not really adding volume thats all im saying and i dont doubt that youve done higher volume stuff everyone has..SS isnt suppose to have allot of volume
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    I'm convinced that unless you're a Powerlifter with good experience, you're never too advanced for Rippetoes. For example, MOST gym-goers don't Squat or Deadlift...and considering those are the two BEST lifts you can do in the entire gym in terms of putting mass on your legs and back (the two largest muscle groups in the body), then you can't go wrong.

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    Originally Posted by muscledon View Post
    yo, RADDERZ, you can do the arm work or w/e thats fine but you said that you wanted to add more volume to it and thats not really adding volume thats all im saying and i dont doubt that youve done higher volume stuff everyone has..SS isnt suppose to have allot of volume
    Yea man i kno i probably didnt choose the correct wording.

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    Squat & Deadlift = Weak as Hell man
    Thats atg squat, normal squat i can squat 250x5 to parallel. And deadlift i can do 200x5 but i pulled a muscle last time i did it cos i jumped from 180 to 200 in one go so i wanna build up to it 10lbs a time instead of 20. Also my legs are most probably bigger than urs anyways so stfu.
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    Not to be a douche but your stats are terrible if you've been lifting for a year, most people start with those. Was your work out nothin but push up and curls? Any lifting will help you **** load based on where your at now
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    Yea man i kno i probably didnt choose the correct wording.



    Thats atg squat, normal squat i can squat 250x5 to parallel. And deadlift i can do 200x5 but i pulled a muscle last time i did it cos i jumped from 180 to 200 in one go so i wanna build up to it 10lbs a time instead of 20. Also my legs are most probably bigger than urs anyways so stfu.
    No one has only a 154x5 ATG squat, but a 250lb parallel squat.
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    Originally Posted by __iceman__ View Post
    no one has only a 154x5 atg squat, but a 250lb parallel squat.
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    Originally Posted by LinebackerGod View Post
    Not to be a douche but your stats are terrible if you've been lifting for a year, most people start with those. Was your work out nothin but push up and curls? Any lifting will help you **** load based on where your at now
    Lol the first half of that year was nearly as retarded as what you described hence the stats. Ive gained some of weight over that time tho (25lbs of lbm) but not much strength. Then afterwards i went off on summer holiday and didnt do **** lol so yea hence the lifts.

    Originally Posted by __Iceman__ View Post
    No one has only a 154x5 ATG squat, but a 250lb parallel squat.
    Yea man i do, my quads are super strong compared to my hamstrings. U want a pic of my legs or sumthin?
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    Lol the first half of that year was nearly as retarded as what you described hence the stats. Ive gained some of weight over that time tho (25lbs of lbm) but not much strength. Then afterwards i went off on summer holiday and didnt do **** lol so yea hence the lifts.



    Yea man i do, my quads are super strong compared to my hamstrings. U want a pic of my legs or sumthin?
    Not really. My max pre-knee injury was 231x5 parallel and now coming back from taking a break I do ATG 154x5 without [literally] breaking a sweat.

    Oh and no you did not gain 25lbs of lean body mass in a year and definitely not in half a year.
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    Are you looking to lift more weight or gain more muscle? Rippetoes is great for gaining strength for a beginner but is horrible for a bulk as Rippetoes does not have enough volume and is a full body routine instead of a split.
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    Originally Posted by __Iceman__ View Post
    Not really. My max pre-knee injury was 231x5 parallel and now coming back from taking a break I do ATG 154x5 without [literally] breaking a sweat.

    Oh and no you did not gain 25lbs of lean body mass in a year and definitely not in half a year.
    lol u mad i have better genetics than u for hypertrophy? I started off weighing 120lbs at probably 10%bf and im at 145lbs now at around 11-12%bf so ur just mad cos u look like **** lol. And yea i do squat 250 parallel. If u dont believe me about the fact that my legs are bigger than urs just ask me and i will post a pic lol.

    Originally Posted by ZionNYC View Post
    Are you looking to lift more weight or gain more muscle? Rippetoes is great for gaining strength for a beginner but is horrible for a bulk as Rippetoes does not have enough volume and is a full body routine instead of a split.
    I wanna gain strength and i will also gain mass on that anyways.
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    Originally Posted by radderz View Post
    Yea man i kno i probably didnt choose the correct wording.



    Thats atg squat, normal squat i can squat 250x5 to parallel. And deadlift i can do 200x5 but i pulled a muscle last time i did it cos i jumped from 180 to 200 in one go so i wanna build up to it 10lbs a time instead of 20. Also my legs are most probably bigger than urs anyways so stfu.
    Okay, I can squat about 10 lbs, but my coach doesn't have us squat a lot, anyways. My deadlift is roughly 50 more than yours, for reps. And on top of that you're 2 years older than me. So...... ustfu
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    Originally Posted by ZionNYC View Post
    Are you looking to lift more weight or gain more muscle? Rippetoes is great for gaining strength for a beginner but is horrible for a bulk as Rippetoes does not have enough volume and is a full body routine instead of a split.





    ^What I was trying to say earlier
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