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    Why not have shoulders on their own day?

    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
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    its a good idea to do shoulders on their own day
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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
    I do. Seems like a lot of people like to stick to their four-day splits without considering anything else.
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    I do. Medial delt gets left out without it. Standard N00b routine tends to be chest/back/legs/arms = Fail
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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
    One reason for that is that it is too taxing for shoulder joint.
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    I have to dedicate a day to just shoulders, those seem to be the only part of my body that gets tired throught the week.
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    Who told you this? Do shoulders on there own.
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    I have a 6 day split with leg (heavy) and leg (light) day. I do my shoulders on the light leg day and works great for me.
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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.

    No explanation probably because there isn't one.

    I would take any advice from the person who ever told you that with a grain of salt.

    Listen to YOUR BODY! Only you know whats too much or not enough.

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    Because shoulders take a beating alot during week and get worked most days.

    - Chest (anterior deltoids)
    - Back (posterior deltoids)
    - Biceps (anterior deltoids)
    - Triceps (Anterior deltoids/posterior deltoids)

    You can still have your own day for shoulders but IMO i prefer not to.
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    Depends on what stage you're at. If you are big and strong with good shoulder strength and stability then it makes sense to target them if body image is your goal.

    If you are a beginner you will most likely end up on the injured list because you overworked a complex joint that gets hit every single day. Think about doing anything in life that doesn't include the shoulder joint. The big push exercises are enough at this stage until one gets bullet proof shoulders (rotators, other soft tissue and scapular muscles/stabilizers).
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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
    Because people talk out their ass to see if it smells like a fart?
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    Never say "never". If shoulders are a lagging body part, you have no shoulder issues, and you want to hit them hard, then do them on their own day if you want.

    That said, I do them at the tail end of other days. They are a pretty small muscle group and if I was to dedicate a whole workout to them I'd either be done way too soon, or overwork them.

    The reason you may have heard not to do them on their own day is because they do get hammered a lot during your other exercises, and many people have shoulder issues when they do too much.
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    doing shoulders and traps today i always have/had a day for shoulders
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    Originally Posted by JOSEF RAKICH View Post
    Because shoulders take a beating alot during week and get worked most days.

    - Chest (anterior deltoids)
    - Back (posterior deltoids)
    - Biceps (anterior deltoids)
    - Triceps (Anterior deltoids/posterior deltoids)

    You can still have your own day for shoulders but IMO i prefer not to.
    My legs are working most of every single day but I still work them out.
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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
    Getting advice from WP section again, aye?

    Prioritizing any body part will make it better. Shoulders are no different. Just make sure they get the appropriate rest.
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    I have a seperate day for shoulders and traps.

    Works for me.
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    There are several reasons why you might have heard not to do shoulders on its own day.

    1) You may be a beginner and the shoulder joint is very sensitive, so if you lift heavy or do a lot of reps the joint will get fatigued... fatigue causes you to change your form and lift improperly... bad form during shoulder exercises are the fastest way to injury.

    2) The shoulder joint is often used during other movements (i.e. all press and pull exercises) so the shoulder joint is activated already, so tacking a shoulder workout onto a chest or back day will suffice.

    However, if you are an experienced lifter and are comfortable with a 5 or 6 day split then a shoulder only day is acceptable as long as you make sure to use perfect form and avoid compromising technique for lifting heavy.

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    Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy View Post
    I'm always told not to do a shoulder routine on its own day but I never get an explanation as to why.
    These people telling you not to do a seperate shoulder day, how are their shoulders looking?
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    I do a shoulders/traps/triceps day. Works for me.
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    I have always put shoulders alone.
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    Originally Posted by MT_Pawkits View Post
    No explanation probably because there isn't one.

    I would take any advice from the person who ever told you that with a grain of salt.

    Listen to YOUR BODY! Only you know whats too much or not enough.

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    I used to do a 3 day split in which i responded really well and everyone else looked at me like i was retarded OVERTRAINING etc etc.

    Back bis and traps
    Chest tris and shoulders
    Legs

    The one major thing i noticed when i do the 3 day is by the time i do shoulders, eventhough im not at my full potential, i've never had a problem with joint soreness afterwards.

    But like said above, do what works for YOU...not someone else
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    I don't do shoulders on their own day. They are the size of a softball, seems like a waste to spend a whole day on such a small group.
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    Originally Posted by JOSEF RAKICH View Post
    Because shoulders take a beating alot during week and get worked most days.

    - Chest (anterior deltoids)
    - Back (posterior deltoids)
    - Biceps (anterior deltoids)
    - Triceps (Anterior deltoids/posterior deltoids)

    You can still have your own day for shoulders but IMO i prefer not to.
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    I usually do my isolated shoulder exercises on chest/tricep day.


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    My legs are working most of every single day but I still work them out.
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    Cause then I wouldn't be able to train them x3 a week.
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    I do shoulders and traps alone. usually at the end of my workout week. I tend to go lighter because of the abuse they take during the week (i acctually used to not train delts at all, but then got myself injured, and decided i needed it). It really isn't that bad to do them alone, the workout maybe a little shorter, but you could either throw in something completely unrelated like calves, or extra cardio or something if you feel the need to spend an exact amount of time in the gym.
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    These people telling you not to do a seperate shoulder day, how are their shoulders looking?



    to each his own....i have routines where they have their own day and i have routines when half are mixed with chest half are mixed with back
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    i do shoulders and light legs on a day but try to space it from other shoulder stressing exercices like bench pressing etc. i often find doing the 2 too close causes extra unwanted strain and pain in the shoulders and just impairs my workout but do what your body tells you.. thats the best way to determine if what your doing is right
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    to each his own....i have routines where they have their own day and i have routines when half are mixed with chest half are mixed with back
    haha whats with the jhayaduck shot?... inspiration?
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    Originally Posted by shamroc617 View Post
    haha whats with the jhayaduck shot?... inspiration?
    he asked who said to do shoulders on their own day and he does them....just thought id throw that out there
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