Smolov Jr

**Kooga** · 02-12-2009, 12:25 PM

which one is best for size and strength?

**T129** · 02-12-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

which one is best for size and strength?

Bench and Squat

Don't do it for deadlift

**Kooga** · 02-12-2009, 06:28 PM

because im tall and thin wouldnt doing a deadlift which would be a stronger lift for my body type be more beneficial than doing squat ?

**Majjb** · 02-12-2009, 06:42 PM

this sounds really ****ing awesome :P wouldnt the op overtrain on this though ?

**RyanE** · 02-12-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

because im tall and thin wouldnt doing a deadlift which would be a stronger lift for my body type be more beneficial than doing squat ?

that doesnt make any sense what so ever.

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 07:27 AM

i thought that shorter people were better at squats where as Taller people are better at deadlifts ?

**Majjb** · 02-13-2009, 01:56 PM

ive got a stronger deadlift then squat and im pretty tall

**T129** · 02-13-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

i thought that shorter people were better at squats where as Taller people are better at deadlifts ?

I don't think you would like deadlifting 4x a week...

**Chokenpuke** · 02-13-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

because im tall and thin wouldnt doing a deadlift which would be a stronger lift for my body type be more beneficial than doing squat ?

Welcome back Sickonstorm.

**avenged7x4lyfe** · 02-13-2009, 02:16 PM

helped my bench alot

**T129** · 02-13-2009, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by avenged7x4lyfe

helped my bench alot

What was your max before and after?

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 02:45 PM

well i hate squatting full stop even if its one day a week but i love to deadlift

gives me that powerful feel cause im a thin guy :P

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 02:46 PM

can i do assistance exercises or is the Bench and Deadlift all that is allowed ?

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 04:04 PM

anybody like ?

**T129** · 02-13-2009, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

anybody like ?

do whatever if u have the energy

**avenged7x4lyfe** · 02-13-2009, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by T129

What was your max before and after?

135 to 150

**T129** · 02-13-2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by avenged7x4lyfe

135 to 150

damn so you was doing 10x3 with 130 pounds on the last week??

maybe it was newb gains?

**avenged7x4lyfe** · 02-13-2009, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by T129

damn so you was doing 10x3 with 130 pounds on the last week??

maybe it was newb gains?

yea strong newb gains it was pretty crazy tho
im starting it for squatting in a week if i like the first 3 weeks im going with a full cycle

**vicjg** · 02-13-2009, 04:25 PM

If you're gonna do it. Do the entire 13 weeks that is Smolov Squatting Hell

**avenged7x4lyfe** · 02-13-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by vicjg

If you're gonna do it. Do the entire 13 weeks that is Smolov Squatting Hell

if i can get through the first 3 weeks im going for the full 13
ooh my legs r sore just thinking about the fiery squatters hell but i know ill come out of it a better man

**GoJu** · 02-13-2009, 04:30 PM

smolov jr is more than enough; I would do it for bench and squat, benching should be a vacation after squatting.

a smolov esque routine done for cleans sounds interesting though

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 04:42 PM

i despise squatting. Doesnt deadlift give the exact same effects ?

**vicjg** · 02-13-2009, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by avenged7x4lyfe

if i can get through the first 3 weeks im going for the full 13
ooh my legs r sore just thinking about the fiery squatters hell but i know ill come out of it a better man

The whole "switching thing" kinda f**ked me up. If I had to do it again, I'd squat more at a lighter weight to kinda stay "in the groove".

Originally Posted by Kooga

i despise squatting. Doesnt deadlift give the exact same effects ?

No.

**SquatDead** · 02-13-2009, 05:48 PM

Ofcourse it does. The deadlift and the squat are similar exercises for legs. I prefer deadlifts cause they train my grip and upper back.

**Kooga** · 02-13-2009, 06:05 PM

well these are exactly my thoughts except deadlifts are heavier and easier

**vicjg** · 02-13-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Kooga

well these are exactly my thoughts except deadlifts are heavier and easier

The "easier", should answer your question

**avenged7x4lyfe** · 02-13-2009, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by vicjg

The whole "switching thing" kinda f**ked me up. If I had to do it again, I'd squat more at a lighter weight to kinda stay "in the groove".

No.

i have a question, do i use the same one rep max as i used for the base cycle for the loading cycle or do i find my new max before i start the loading cycle and use that?

**vicjg** · 02-13-2009, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by avenged7x4lyfe

i have a question, do i use the same one rep max as i used for the base cycle for the loading cycle or do i find my new max before i start the loading cycle and use that?

Use the same 1RM, but bump it up for week 2,3. And make sure you squat frequently during the "switching" phase.

**pojo18** · 02-13-2009, 07:43 PM

do regular smolov for squat..... smolov jr for bench only..

**pojo18** · 02-13-2009, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by avenged7x4lyfe

if i can get through the first 3 weeks im going for the full 13
ooh my legs r sore just thinking about the fiery squatters hell but i know ill come out of it a better man

go for the full 13 weeks if your up to it!. i added about 30 lbs to my squat. ( i was doing the program on a cut though) you'll be sore like hell but its a great program

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